So many sites ranking from poorly made PBN's.

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I was looking at the backlink profile some sites and I can see that it has 1000's of links from poorly made PBN's, that are not relevant to the niche.

I am new to PBN's and have been taught to buy niche relevant domains and meet certain criteria ( logo, different hosting/ip/ different whois details, 5 articles of 500 words, contact page). . I have also been told to only link once from each PBN to a single domain. But these PBN's are linking 100's of times to the same domain.

These sites have had steady rankings for years, with no penalties.

Is this a legit tactic? Feel I am missing something
 
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The Night Rider said:
I was looking at the backlink profile some sites and I can see that it has 1000's of links from poorly made PBN's, that are not relevant to the niche.

I am new to PBN's and have been taught to buy niche relevant domains and meet certain criteria ( logo, different hosting/ip/ different whois details, 5 articles of 500 words, contact page). . I have also been told to only link once from each PBN to a single domain. But these PBN's are linking 100's of times to the same domain.

These sites have had steady rankings for years, with no penalties.

Is this a legit tactic? Feel I am missing something
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PBN's are old news, they are not as effective anymore. Listen to me, give up that "frenzy" of everybody trying to build PBNs.

I'm sure you have heard about the California gold rush of 1849.

Do you know who made the most money during the gold rush? Not the people digging for gold, but those selling shovels and equipment.

These PBN sellers are just pushing a hidden agenda so people new like you and all other noobies that do not know any better can buy their over-expensive good for nothing and low quality PBN.

Save your money and avoid any PBN, they are not good anymore I'm telling you. Do not let anyone else tell you otherwise. Cheers and I hope that helped!
 
What's the competition of the keywords?
If the competition is non existent, there's a chance someone blasted links with seo tools over those years you mentioned about and happened to stick.
 
Here are some example of the keywords, I would say pretty high competition. They are doing something right!


-Scottish property auctions ( 3600 searches a month)
-property auctions Scotland ( 2400 searches a month)
 
YourGuruForLife said:
PBN's are old news, they are not as effective anymore. Listen to me, give up that "frenzy" of everybody trying to build PBNs.

I'm sure you have heard about the California gold rush of 1849.

Do you know who made the most money during the gold rush? Not the people digging for gold, but those selling shovels and equipment.

These PBN sellers are just pushing a hidden agenda so people new like you and all other noobies that do not know any better can buy their over-expensive good for nothing and low quality PBN.

Save your money and avoid any PBN, they are not good anymore I'm telling you. Do not let anyone else tell you otherwise. Cheers and I hope that helped!
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I would disagree, I personally know some very experienced SEO's ( leading) that use PBN's as their main weapon, although these have been well made, unlike the recent example I have seen which sparked my question. You probably won't tell me but what groundbreaking tactics are you using?
 
YourGuruForLife said:
PBN's are old news, they are not as effective anymore. Listen to me, give up that "frenzy" of everybody trying to build PBNs.
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I'm not sure what world you're on but PBNs are still very relevant and get rankings really far. Maybe try it sometime?
 
mickyfu said:
Planet Guru, say no more.
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Of course @PBNbros would thank you, why else would he disagree since he sells PBN services. Listen guys, everybody is entitled to their own opinion, I was just openly stating mine. I have no intention of selling SEO services at all to anybone on this forum, or anywhere. So, I have no ulterior motives unlike those members that liked certain questionable posts here and replied saying PBNs still work and I live on some strange planet.
 
YourGuruForLife said:
Of course @PBNbros would thank you, why else would he disagree since he sells PBN services. Listen guys, everybody is entitled to their own opinion, I was just openly stating mine. I have no intention of selling SEO services at all to anybone on this forum, or anywhere. So, I have no ulterior motives unlike those members that liked certain questionable posts here and replied saying PBNs still work and I live on some strange planet.
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I don't need people to thank / support me to know what ranks my websites well.

If you are dumb enough to buy any old shit PBN link or service, then SEO is not for you. Does not mean that PBN links do not work.

And 99% of the time when people are talking "PBN", they are talking "Private Blog Network", and not "Public". Again if you are dumb enough to not know the difference, then SEO is not for you.
 
YourGuruForLife said:
PBN's are old news, they are not as effective anymore. Listen to me, give up that "frenzy" of everybody trying to build PBNs.

I'm sure you have heard about the California gold rush of 1849.

Do you know who made the most money during the gold rush? Not the people digging for gold, but those selling shovels and equipment.

These PBN sellers are just pushing a hidden agenda so people new like you and all other noobies that do not know any better can buy their over-expensive good for nothing and low quality PBN.

Save your money and avoid any PBN, they are not good anymore I'm telling you. Do not let anyone else tell you otherwise. Cheers and I hope that helped!
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Are PBNs dead then? Better stop ranking I guess
 
mickyfu said:
I don't need people to thank / support me to know what ranks my websites well.

If you are dumb enough to buy any old shit PBN link or service, then SEO is not for you. Does not mean that PBN links do not work.

And 99% of the time when people are talking "PBN", they are talking "Private Blog Network", and not "Public". Again if you are dumb enough to not know the difference, then SEO is not for you.
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I don't need no stinking seo or PBN to make money. People like you need to keep this myth of PBN's make the world go around. But the truth of the matter is that , am not the dumb one here, you are just mad because there are other ways to bring traffic to a site than a PBN. Look @mickyfu, you might think that I don't know jack shit, but I know my way around the interwebz. I know what the heck I'm talking about, I'm worth my salt, not just talking out of my ass like you did on your previous post. Soon, once you read more of my posts you will see that I'm not just your average Joe, but at the moment you can't see that because you think I'm just some random noob. Trust me, I'm not!
 
YourGuruForLife said:
I don't need no stinking seo or PBN to make money. People like you need to keep this myth of PBN's make the world go around. But the truth of the matter is that , am not the dumb one here, you are just mad because there are other ways to bring traffic to a site than a PBN. Look @mickyfu, you might think that I don't know jack shit, but I know my way around the interwebz. I know what the heck I'm talking about, I'm worth my salt, not just talking out of my ass like you did on your previous post. Soon, once you read more of my posts you will see that I'm not just your average Joe, but at the moment you can't see that because you think I'm just some random noob. Trust me, I'm not!
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Pretty sure you are talking out of your ass :p
 
hacko said:
Are PBNs dead then? Better stop ranking I guess
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They are not death, but they are certainly not the all hail mary people make it sound like.

There are lot of smoke and mirrors here on this forum, and only a few can see through the mis-information people are throwing around like its set in stone.

You want my advice? Due your own diligence, because no matter what I tell you , 3-5 other Jr VIP who sell PBN services directly or indirectly are going to come and defend PBN's like they are some god-send strategy.
 
YourGuruForLife said:
I don't need no stinking seo or PBN to make money. People like you need to keep this myth of PBN's make the world go around. But the truth of the matter is that , am not the dumb one here, you are just mad because there are other ways to bring traffic to a site than a PBN. Look @mickyfu, you might think that I don't know jack shit, but I know my way around the interwebz. I know what the heck I'm talking about, I'm worth my salt, not just talking out of my ass like you did on your previous post. Soon, once you read more of my posts you will see that I'm not just your average Joe, but at the moment you can't see that because you think I'm just some random noob. Trust me, I'm not!
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I really could not care less what you think. You are merely just some random person on the internet that thinks it knows it all, but does not. I find your posts highly amusing, are you the chosen one? The one we have all been waiting for? Please do say you are the new Ceosam.
 
YourGuruForLife said:
They are not death, but they are certainly not the all hail mary people make it sound like.

There are lot of smoke and mirrors here on this forum, and only a few can see through the mis-information people are throwing around like its set in stone.

You want my advice? Due your own diligence, because no matter what I tell you , 3-5 other Jr VIP who sell PBN services directly or indirectly are going to come and defend PBN's like they are some god-send strategy.
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Fake marketing is one thing (I talk about this in the keyword reports I send to my customers), but PBNs not being effective is a whole other point. They are very very effective when done right.
 
PBNbros said:
Pretty sure you are talking out of your ass :p
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So real talk, do you honestly believe PBN's are utterly necessary to rank and bring traffic to a website? Do you seriously think that without PBN's there are no other ways to bring massive and consistent traffic to a website?

Answer my 2 questions, don't evade them, and answer them thoroughly. Let's get some real pros and cons, and make a very interesting discussion here instead of parroting what everybody is saying @PBNbros .
 
mickyfu said:
I really could not care less what you think. You are merely just some random person on the internet that thinks it knows it all, but does not. I find your posts highly amusing, are you the chosen one? The one we have all been waiting for? Please do say you are the new Ceosam.
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That is understandable, a man with your intellect can never actually debate properly. You are essentially band wagoning on other people's arguments. You can't even explain why PBN's are still effective, all you have proven to do is throw personal insults instead of deliberating a proper argument to continue this discussion. You have 0 debatable skills.
 
YourGuruForLife said:
So real talk, do you honestly believe PBN's are utterly necessary to rank and bring traffic to a website? Do you seriously think that without PBN's there are no other ways to bring massive and consistent traffic to a website?

Answer my 2 questions, don't evade them, and answer them thoroughly. Let's get some real pros and cons, and make a very interesting discussion here instead of parroting what everybody is saying @PBNbros .
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What exactly do other traffic sources ie social media, and PBNs ie SEO have to do with each other? Have you been sniffing glue or something.

Oh and to answer your question. Having high quality sites linking into your site is the most effective way of ranking. So we make several high quality sites "a private blog network" to rank our sites.

You are coming across as someone who bought 30 PBN links for $50 and are pissed off because no magic happened.

Go on guru away with some nonsense spiel.
 
YourGuruForLife said:
So real talk, do you honestly believe PBN's are utterly necessary to rank and bring traffic to a website? Do you seriously think that without PBN's there are no other ways to bring massive and consistent traffic to a website?

Answer my 2 questions, don't evade them, and answer them thoroughly. Let's get some real pros and cons, and make a very interesting discussion here instead of parroting what everybody is saying @PBNbros .
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Im not gonna sit here and tutor you about PBNs. There are 100s of posts on this forums about PBNs, go read them first and then come talk to me.

It seems like everyday there is an idiot "guru" who comes on here and says SEO is dead.
 
lads the question was how are sites ranking from the same poorly made PBN's over and over.
 
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