So Let Me Get This Straight

The COVIDient sheep herd is already addicted to vaxxes and we all know addictions consequences

I know, I find i'm tossing and turning all night unless I lace my nightly mug of horlicks with a vial or two. It has to be pfizer or at least j&j though. I don't deal with schwag.
 
The most surprising was to me that the loudest ones had access to western education, what a waste.
i was born in England @thescrrr so if i have a Chinese education
i need to know wtf happened to my western education.

hell when i left school in 1988 aged 18, they still did O levels and
A levels, and i got a few of both, i also majored in
annoyance which i passed with honors :D
 
I just got back to the UK from Thailand. It's actually a great comparison, the populations are very similar. The main difference is that obviously Thailand is a lot bigger.

However, that shouldn't matter as we are comparing "developed" with "developing" so even though the country is larger, poverty means that certain places are a lot denser.

Anyway, based on that, Thailand should be doing worse than the UK since it's a "developing" nation and they haven't had the same sort of vaccine rollout as the UK, with the boosters and so on.

When on the actual ground, Thailand is as close to "normal" as it can be, compared with the UK that has now triggered Plan B and looking and coming up with a Plan C.

Let's look at the numbers:

Thailand: Cases 2.16M Deaths 21,112
UK: Cases 10.7M Deaths: 146K

There is no "Plan B/C" getting triggered in Thailand its actually quite the opposite, being that as time goes on, more and more of the restrictions are eased/removed.

Another good example would be Dubai.

There was a huge exodus during the original lockdowns/covid hysteria that saw people from the Uk flock to Dubai due to their lesser restrictions, to the point the MP's were talking about it on the news at the time and even placed travel restrictions to stop people "rubbing it in their faces" as it were.

I was there during that time. It was crazy going home to tell people back in the UK how different things were when they thought the rest of the world was locked down like they were, only for it only to be basically Western nations. It was also funny that when during the "travel ban" in the UK, I travelled internationally twice, and people genuinely thought travel ban meant that all travel was disallowed. Again, paying too much attention to the media.

Speaking of media, a few weeks ago in Dubai 146,000 thousand people took part in the "Dubai run" meanwhile in the UK you now need to be masked to be around a few hundred people in supermarkets, pubs, restaurants etc meanwhile the jab was your way out of that and your ticket to freedom, fast forward to today, by this time next year, you could have potentially been jabbed 6 times in total.

If the vaccines worked, why do places like the UK have more restrictions and less freedoms although the vaccination and booster rates are higher than other countries with both less jabs/boosters, restrictions and ultimately cases.
 
There are countries where everything is free, you can go there if you want, but they'll likely vaccinate you on entry, by force even.
There aren't countries where everything is free! FFS
There are countries where health care is paid for with taxes which come from working people.
 
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3897733
Also, the loads diminish quickly in the vaccinated even when the loads are similar:
Just to make it clear, I agree with most things that you said on first page...

However, the viral load that they describe as "251 times higher" is not that relevant. Because the transmission comparison wont be 251 times higher in non-vaccinated. As per the latest study I saw from UK:
"The analysis found that around 25% of vaccinated household contacts tested positive for COVID-19 compared with roughly 38% of unvaccinated household contacts."
https://www.imperial.ac.uk/news/231557/covid-vaccines-effective-household-transmission-delta/
So transmission is still there. Reduced, but IMO, not enough to justify a push for the green certificate.
 
Just to make it clear, I agree with most things that you said on first page...

However, the viral load that they describe as "251 times higher" is not that relevant. Because the transmission comparison wont be 251 times higher in non-vaccinated. As per the latest study I saw from UK:
"The analysis found that around 25% of vaccinated household contacts tested positive for COVID-19 compared with roughly 38% of unvaccinated household contacts."
https://www.imperial.ac.uk/news/231557/covid-vaccines-effective-household-transmission-delta/
So transmission is still there. Reduced, but IMO, not enough to justify a push for the green certificate.
I'm not even sure what he's on about, that 251 is comparison against delta variant virus compared to old strain, in vaccinated people. Nothing to do with unvaccinated.
 
Science.. facts.. all from reliable sources like you want right? Check the link below and then please shut up now Bart for the love of god, you sound like some crazy racist when you talk about the “unvaxxed”.. a slippery slope you are on.

Digest the below and then please stop the bullshit, you’ve been proved wrong time and time again. You are incapable of any sort of critical thinking whatsoever, you rely solely on what you are told to rely on.. it’s that simple.

Anway.. you keep saying the unvaxxed are causing this and the areas with the least uptake in vaccines are the worst - YOU ARE WRONG. Don’t believe me? Well here you go.. science and real stats, that’s what you always want right?..

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8481107/
“In fact, the trend line suggests a marginally positive association such that countries with higher percentage of population fully vaccinated have higher COVID-19 cases per 1 million people.”

“The sole reliance on vaccination as a primary strategy to mitigate COVID-19 and its adverse consequences needs to be re-examined”

“In summary, even as efforts should be made to encourage populations to get vaccinated it should be done so with humility and respect. Stigmatizing populations can do more harm than good. Importantly, other non-pharmacological prevention efforts (e.g., the importance of basic public health hygiene with regards to maintaining safe distance or handwashing, promoting better frequent and cheaper forms of testing) needs to be renewed in order to strike the balance of learning to live with COVID-19 in the same manner we continue to live a 100 years later with various seasonal alterations of the 1918 Influenza virus.”

Science.....
 
People who are against vaccination mandates are among the lowest IQ sheep in the world.

These people are so easy to manipulate it's insane.

90%+ of the world's medical community supports them, and they truly believe in their hearts it's some sort of conspiracy.
 
Am I the only one who’s bored and only gets fired up when a thread is about review copies but on second note I do like this never ending drama of vaxxer and anti vaxxers so keep it rolling
I'd love to get popcorn to watch these threads but unfortunately I can't enter a store without a vaccine pass :(
 
People who are against vaccination mandates are among the lowest IQ sheep in the world.

These people are so easy to manipulate it's insane.

90%+ of the world's medical community supports them, and they truly believe in their hearts it's some sort of conspiracy.

LOL dayum I was just thinking exactly that when I got to your post I couldnt believe you posted that.

I was about to post I wanted a CPA campaign targetted at antivaxxers

They'll believe anything

I can concoct a UFO + vaccine + Soros conspiracy in 30 minutes that'll get spread by telegram and whatsapp like fire.

They simply disregard verified journalism and science and believe all the crazy shit you can spew.

The recipe seems to be pretty obvious :

1 - Find things that bother 99%, like taxes and masks and having to do social distancing

2 - Attribute these things to some imaginary enemy. Like some moron riding a donkey in the desert accused of defeating the world's most powerful air force.

3 - Add true elements to the story, like Jon Doe did invest in vaccines in the 1990s plus if the vaccine isn't 100% efficient, say "it doesnt work". Like seatbelts aren't 100% eficient either so you can just ban seatbelts, after all "my uncle who was perfectly healthy died in a car crash EVEN WHILE WEARING A SEATBELT"

4 - Add a subtle political touch such that it pleases some low IQ mass

5 - Get a fiverr jig to mix a good video edit together with all this shit in it and spread it like wildfire in comments sections whatsapp or telegram

BOOM

Next week you'll see folks in here saying seatbelts are useless we should all just drive drunk and live a healthy lifestyle and you'll be ok.
 
People who are against vaccination mandates are among the lowest IQ sheep in the world.

These people are so easy to manipulate it's insane.

90%+ of the world's medical community supports them, and they truly believe in their hearts it's some sort of conspiracy.

Speak for yourself. I’ll happily take an IQ test against you and I’ve not a single doubt I’d score higher than you.

Grow up, people that don’t agree with governments mandating injections of a drug that’s got so much controversy around it are easy to manipulate? I almost fell of my seat laughing at that line.

You are the exact same as Bart with his “antivaxxer” blanket name calling (to people that have taken vaccines all their lives). Not all of us that don’t want to partake in this shit show are conspiracy nuts, we’re normal people capable of seeing that something is badly wrong here and most of us are flabbergasted at those of you that don’t see that.

You carry on there, the news should be on tele any second now with your latest covid update.

People who are FOR vaccination mandates are among the lowest IQ sheep in the world.

These people are so easy to manipulate it's insane.


(@ mods - not sure why the above bold text of mine was edited, it’s simply a copy paste of https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/so-let-me-get-this-straight.1374887/page-5#post-14893884 with one word changed, please PM me if there is a rule break as I see none?)

I see Bart once again ignores a post with facts, chooses instead to blank it and rant about ufos and other mad shit in an attempt to undermine people with legit arguments and opinions here. You are a funny one Bart, I’ll give you that much.
 
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S/O to Black Hat World admin and mods for letting these COVID threads continue.

They've been the heart and soul of BHW in 2021.

Black Hat World? More like Bioweapon Health Weekly. Am I right?


I'll see myself out.
 
I'm not vaxed and not against vaccines at all but what I believe is that I can't compromise the safty my body for other because of a flue. Covid -19 is a strong / fast mutanting variant of the FLUE, the death rate is mostly high in the older ppl and already sick ppl. I go to swim in the atlantic in winter and it works like a charm with my immune system. I don't care if you get the shot or not but don't force it on others! and your arguments are mostly getting debunked. get your head out your ass and check out africa for example low vaccination low death rate and even more, no one care about this pandemic.
Yes, I can confirm this because I live in Africa. In my state, no one died or infected but everyday our news channels are mandated to post fake numbers about covid deaths. Just last week, it was discovered that millions of covid vaccine doses brought into our country expired inside the store where it was packed.
 
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