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So I Have This Idea....

Discussion in 'Making Money' started by kPybus, Mar 31, 2012.

  1. kPybus

    kPybus Regular Member

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    I don't know if I'm even going to post this big ole rant, but if you're reading it I guess I did.

    As I sit here thinking I have realized something, and I think it's worth ranting about honestly. I've been in IM for several years now, white and black. I own a plethora of tools, oodles of sites - from adsense to service sites...one or two of which are fairly popular with BHW members. I have tens of thousands of social followers and several other long lists of things where too much money and time was spent. I've devoted more money than I care to remember and 120+ hours a week for an entire f'in year of my life to internet marketing ideas and tests...and what I have to show for it is a lot of wisdom (me hopes) and a knowledge for what new IM'ers want, as well as a pretty detailed relationship with what really does work and what is just BS hype, *cough* SHOEMONEY *cough*.

    My conclusion to all of this time, money and effort? IM'ers want/need a repeatable, automated, super easy way to make a big return with minimal invested. No crap, right? Right. But please tell me one single tool/ebook/plugin/software/service/anything that is a true total package for those hundreds of thousands of new IM'ers? Show me one that does not require some knowledge of how things work or only leads you to buy more and more tools.

    There are some that come very close, and those are worth their weight in gold, but nothing seems to be perfect....nothing holds up. If anything you have to at least find a long list of tools and learn how to use them. THEN, you can look into building a site. Most new IM'ers do this backwards, they build a site and then when it's not making any money they go out looking for tools to fix it. Most end up giving up, that's why probably only 10% (if that) of all IM'ers can call it a full time PAYING job.

    That's also why most of that 10% is making their money from selling those very tools to noob IM'ers. Nothing wrong with that, but it's a broken system. We deserve better don't we? Why can't there be something simple and eay that does everything for you and really makes you money...just like all the BS hype squeeze pages promise? It doesn't have to be a pipe dream or a marketing tatic...it could really exist. Really.

    I'm sure some of you are big fans of one program or another and will tell me yadda yadda does this and that and is all you need to make money in [insert niche here] on [insert site here] if you [insert process here]. Ok, well good for you. I'm glad you found something that works with your knowledge level and with your business skills and innate luck. Work it till it's dead. But it's not working for the other 99%. It can't be. Sure, some are scared to buy and will never know, but screw the 9-5 sheeple who won't drop a dime. They are afraid of change, and nothing can fix their mindset. But some will try hard and still fail. Some of it is luck even still, I agree. But not all of it. It boils down to effectiveness and your knowledge of how the process works.

    So all that ranting brings me to my point. I've came up with something, an idea that could really solve nearly all this mess. Something that could make new IM'ers hundreds (thousands/millions/billions/whatever fantasy number you want...but mostly hundreds) of dollars every month for each site they make. Not $5 a week like the other crap....but $10-$20 a day or more per site times however many domains you can afford.

    I'm pulling these numbers from my own experience with my system I'm working right now. It's something that I just sort of naturally developed over the years, and then adjusted as google made changes. It seems consistent, It's not as automated as I would like but it could be 100% automated outside of setting up wordpress sites. Hell that could even be worked out really.

    I could put my entire system in a WSO and sell it, sure...but 95% of the people who bought it wouldn't have a clue how to do it in the end and would have to spend $1,000+ on tools just to get started. The only one who would get rich off it would be me. And honestly I don't like that. If I'm selling a product that is supposed to make you money, then damnit I want it to make you money. Not 5% of those who would buy my WSO would ever do it, mostly because they cannot afford the tools to try out a new idea based off what one guy came up with.

    So I don't know. I'm tired of trying to make money in IM. This game is getting old to me. The fun is gone and I want to move on. I have always dreamed of owning a homestead and moving out to the country far away from computers and power lines. I'm ready to go, but all this is holding me here. Mentally I can't let it go until I do something with all this. I just don't know what.

    I've thought about building some software that can do what I want, that would solve the problem. But I'm not a programmer, I'm an idea guy that knows what people want. I know html and css, but that won't get me far with API's. I don't know anyone offhand who could do it either.

    I guess that's why I'm here. I have the idea and the process, and I know what I want. I just don't know how to do it. Is my system destined to disappear when I do? Is it worth seeing to completion?
     
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    Long boring whine... then starts to sound like a sales page.

    If you got a method that works and will make $100s for every WP site you make...

    Then whats stopping you from making more sites and saving up and outsourcing the coding ? hmmm


    BS.... thats why.
     
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    I thought the rant was going somewhere good, but then you turned it into bitching :(
     
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    Outsource the building of your idea. Or teach a few people the method and they have a contract with you to give part of their earnings to you.

    I have been looking for that kind of deal, I learn a method from someone and I just have to pay them a % of everything I earn...
     
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    I'm not sure of this is a rant or a pitch for a JV? In any case the answer is 42!
     
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    I c wut u did thar!

    I don't know where you really want to go with this OP, care to explain to us "sheeple?"
     
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    if you really have a good idea, then just outsource the programming and make your product. Your in IM so u shouldnt have a problem selling it.
     
  8. kPybus

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    lol pretty much a bit of all of the above, but with no jv pitch or sales pitch. Sorry if I disappoint you but I don't want your money. :(

    Sorry if I bitched a bit too, I guess I'm getting old and tired. But noticed I said I wouldn't sell this, other than if I ever actually made some sort of tool or real system with it. I'm not a sneaky little scammer trying to get money or anything, but I see where you're coming from. There's a ton of post like that around here. This isn't one of them.

    I don't know where this post is going honestly, I think I'm going to just let it flow and see where it ends up really. I just had it on my chest, seems like other plans I have are getting in the way of my IM life and it's frustraiting. I'm ready to do something big or just close up shop.

    I could outsource, yes, but I really don't want to. I've thought about looking for some people who have the skills and may want to help with such a project for a piece of the pie. I guess at that point it would be a JV of sorts. I don't know, I'm building a video game right now on that premise and it's working well. Could work here too I suppose.

    In the end it would be nice to see my process simplified into a single tool that does everything. It's possible to make for sure, if I knew the right people who were capable of coding such a feat. I might put that in the jv section, who knows. The problem is finding trustworty strangers. I may just forget it, I may just post it all here and let someone else figure out how to work it. idk.

    Ooh and bert, your math is off. If I'm lucky enough the answer may be 69. ;P
     
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    just connect your boxes together and make them work together
     
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  10. kPybus

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    heh I like that. I've had more time to think about it and I've came up with a bit of an idea. Once I can sit down for a while I think I'll make a plan.
     
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    Actually I just don't want to outsource. I'm an ideas guy, I like working with a team of people who are aiming for a single goal.

    I guess some proof is in order to show you I'm not full of BS, understandable. Without giving away much detail of my process, a small part of what I do involves Amazon. Here is one of my associates accounts for one of my sites.

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    Again, that is only one site for one month, which is one small part of what I do. In total truth that is actually only about 16 days worth, because around the middle of the month I started experimenting with another process and sales stoped. Needless to say I'm going back to what I was doing before. :) Here's my half-month screenshot.

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    I'm full of many things, but not BS. :rolleyes:
     
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    The biggest thing you need to understand is that the most profitable IM methods are never ever shared openly in public, simply due to the fact that saturation kills profitability.

    People often share skeletons of the actual true money making methods, and ask you to use your own twists and ingenuity to put the meat on the bones so to speak.

    WSO's and the like are often copied and rehashed methods that worked years ago and are purely created to make their marketers famous in IM circles, so they can successfully sell any future recycled trash they wish to plug.

    The ideal solution would be to come up with a money making idea and produce the tools needed to make it automated yourself.

    But alas were are not all gifted with coding abilities, so this is where outsourcing is needed and of cause this opens the method up to others to share or manipulate and eventually create the dreaded saturation and competition.

    Just need to find one method and concentrate on building the necessary backlinks and traffic until the profits start rolling in. It could take days, it could take months, it even could take years to see you hard work pay off.
     
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    I am a VERY talented VB programmer and have been waiting and waiting for someone to need an application developed, and finally it's here! I will work for beans on this idea, as long as once we release it I get some percentage of the profits ;) since it sounds absolutely awesome. I've limited myself to building file manipulators and web scrapers, mostly. I have experience working with API's and I would really love the opportunity to work on this project with you. Check your PM, I've sent you something simply requesting more details. I don't expect you to tell me your method or anything, but I'd love to know just what tools and sites I need to learn the API's for, so that I can assess my ability to complete a project like this. Also, I'm pretty good with ideas, so if you're not sure how all the dots connect together, I'll definitely take a crack at it and I should be able to come up with a working infrastructure for the tools. Let me know, dude :)
     
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    Ideas are worthless. Its all about execution!

    Why don't you just outsource the work in parts. So that one V.A does one bit of the project, another coder does a bit of the coding.... and another one makes the site... etc. etc. And maybe you just do the last bit yourself so that you can sell the sites on flippa or here in the sales section.


    Good luck.