DutchTrafficService
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- Aug 12, 2010
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You are the one being clueless here, and without knowing what you are talking about.
Site is gone! Was there another G update last night?
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You are the one being clueless here, and without knowing what you are talking about.
jollymonsa
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- Jul 12, 2011
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BUSTED!
Age plus number of bad quality linky sites coming inbound from your lens sites hit you hard. PM me your domain and Ill take a look and give you an honest opinion as to why.
blackhat777
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- Jun 25, 2011
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Yesterday few of my sites lost their rankings in all 3 - google, yahoo, bing all at the same time. :S
So, was it only google update or was it an update from yahoo and bing too
Whatever it might be. i will bounce back in all three engines
So, was it only google update or was it an update from yahoo and bing too
Whatever it might be. i will bounce back in all three engines
jollymonsa
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- Jul 12, 2011
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For the record chips initial assumption is pretty right on you need to pepper they KW in at most 4 times. It has to be VERY relevant with the surrounding text. Look into the Flesch reading score, I have noticed my sites with higher grade levels held out better then those with lower reading levels....Kind of like subject authority based on complexity of reading worked out better with penguin.
ajithrocksca
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- Dec 23, 2010
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2-3% keyword density might be a bit higher.. (anything around 1.5 is good). However too much is being said about keyword density which is not true, and some great and exceptional articles might have higher keywords. Google will not hammer a site just for a keyword density of 2-3, which happens naturally even in some top sites. Google is focusing a lot on keywords having higher searches, because that is where the money is being made both for google and the sites that are ranking. IMO this might have to do more with the overall quality of your site.
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I beg to differ. You, sir, are on some epic bullshit. Good luck with ranking your de-optimized sites, removing almost every keyword, and removing all your links. Don't worry Dutch Traffic Service, people will build links to your sites naturally because they think the content it's super cool, no need to use any tools to make money. LOL
Yes, you are right. The high volume keywords are the 3% being targeted as that's where the big spammers go - the big money keywords.
RedPanda9
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- Mar 28, 2012
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You're not the only one. Same thing happened to me, as well as others. I've seen people asking this same question on this forum and others. It's no coincidence that lots of people lost rankings at the exact same time.
I had a penalized site 301'd to my new one (stupid I know). I'm pointing the finger at that blunder of mine. My on-page is good, kw density is in-between 1-2%. Very diverse anchors and sources, blogs, profiles, edu, web 2.0, wikis, social, etc. New blog posts every day.
I removed the 301 and hopefully the next "update" will be a favorable one. Just think ahead to when we finally get a good grasp of EVERY do and don't of seo. Stay hungry!
I had a penalized site 301'd to my new one (stupid I know). I'm pointing the finger at that blunder of mine. My on-page is good, kw density is in-between 1-2%. Very diverse anchors and sources, blogs, profiles, edu, web 2.0, wikis, social, etc. New blog posts every day.
I removed the 301 and hopefully the next "update" will be a favorable one. Just think ahead to when we finally get a good grasp of EVERY do and don't of seo. Stay hungry!
Yea your right. But it's easier for you. You were already making great money. It's different when this happens and your barely making $1000 a month, and now it's back to $0. It really sucks! I need an investor or something. The market I'm in can make me $30,000+ MONTHLY, and I'm top 100, but I can't do anything with no money.
webmasterbd
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- Dec 2, 2009
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Guys i don't know what happened with OP site but i would suggest everyone to check the following video -
at least the advance link building part.In there it says something about the number of links should be built on a monthly basis is multiplied by the number of visitor you are getting;like you are getting 10 visitors a day then the number of links should be build 10*30=300 links a month.I think its a good idea after those recent updates & also keeping the link velocity at the same pace as well.
ajithrocksca
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- Dec 23, 2010
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It is not 100% true.. there is no way google can find out the traffic, bounce rate and the time spent if you are not using their services like adsense, webmastertools ot analytics. It was believed that they can get the information from chrome.. However that is not the case, and even if it is, it can be manipulated (http://www.google.com/chrome/intl/en/privacy.html).
One factor which google will take in to account is the social sharing volumes, which google can track easily... In my opinions IMers should start working more on pinterest (you get high pr backlinks too), retweets and stumbles. I am doing this and got couple of sites being rewarded after the penguin updates.
redrubies
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- Jan 17, 2011
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Yes, yes, yes! I was doing fine until I got in google for the word jewelry and kept going higher for that and every other high value keyword. My inner pages with url endings that the best keywords in them shot up too. All the good words are gone now. All the crappy words are gone now. Only God knows what I am currently in the serps for. I am convinced that I got a manual review.
Yeah man. Its really creepy after penguin. I am scared to repeat keywords. In fact, I instruct my writers to not use any keywords and write naturally, the content which will actually help the users. Rather then going after competitive niches, I would rather build authority sites, target 10000 long tails, mention them once/twice/thrice in the articles and rank pretty easily.
I have changed my mindset: Rather than making short term money making sites, make sites for your passion, build an authority, build a brand - money will follow sooner or later.
Did you know, if you don't have the keyword in the article even once, still you can rank for it?
Occurrence of 20 same keywords in the same article, oh well, may be possible if you are writing on some specific topic...(There are something called as pronouns, that can be used instead of a noun, while referring them several times in the article) but hey, you are screwed if you do the same in all 200 articles on your website. Does that look natural?
Google isn't a fool, that can't spot this bullshit. Apart from BHer, I am also a genuine blogger, who likes to write on stuff, and I know how a genuine article looks like.
Nobody certainly knows, what exactly is penguin.. still we have some idea that it is mainly related to on-page OVER OPTIMIZATION and anchor text diversity. Even after getting hit, if people continue with the same shit, they are going to fall off eventually in the upcoming updates(if they are not already). From years Google have been preaching to create genuine content for users and not for engines, no user would like to read an ugly article with 20 same keywords that are bold, italicised and underlined; popping all over.
Future: Genuine blogging is the key to success.
FuryKyle
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- Nov 19, 2010
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At which point in time did Google start dropping sites with more than 2% KW density? Search any term and analyze that site - some #1 sites for major terms are still ranking with a whopping 9% KW density. If you don't know what you're talking about with nothing to back your shit up, please refrain from posting 1 sentence, retarded replies with absolutely no basis.
FuryKyle
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Did you know, if you don't have the keyword in the article even once, still you can rank for it?
Occurrence of 20 same keywords in the same article, oh well, may be possible if you are writing on some specific topic...(There are something called as pronouns, that can be used instead of a noun, while referring them several times in the article) but hey, you are screwed if you do the same in all 200 articles on your website. Does that look natural?
I only disliked how you told OP that he got dropped because of his measly 2% KW density which is utterly false. The repetition of 20 words in a 1000 article is completely natural. Take a look at all the #1 Wikipedia articles.
manny521
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- Sep 15, 2011
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Kind of agree with this. Keyword density is not as important as you think or doesn't need to be so low as you think it should. Just wright something naturally and usually the keyword density is pretty high...
Penguin didn't target onsite seo, it targeted unnatural backlinks to your site...the thing that confuses me is Panda 3.3 targeted unnatural backlinks to our sites so was penguin just a big turn of the dial to be way more sensitive? This is what is confusing me...
Screaming and chasing after mythical perfection in keyword density is getting old. Write content that is relevant but also makes sense to the visitor. On site SEO is important but if you over think it, you're probably doing the wrong thing. Put the time wasted in manipulating higher and lower densities into writing additional content. More content that makes sense to your visitor is better than dwelling on something you don't know the real answer to.
Same thing for backlinks. Too much of any one thing is going to hurt you. One bad backlink isn't going to drag you to the gutter if you have plenty of good ones.
To me, Penguin fapping on your site means you need to focus more on your diversity. That's on site and off site SEO.
Same thing for backlinks. Too much of any one thing is going to hurt you. One bad backlink isn't going to drag you to the gutter if you have plenty of good ones.
To me, Penguin fapping on your site means you need to focus more on your diversity. That's on site and off site SEO.
thegladiator
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- Aug 24, 2009
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Penguin Update is taking it niche by niche...So maybe today you are not getting affected but in future you may see some drops. it is not a new update everyday but the same update spreading to all niches.
Keep your keyword density 1.5% at the max or keep it just to 1% and try to use LSI keywords. In each article around 3-4 or more LSI will help you recover.
HADAKUMULLAH
Keep your keyword density 1.5% at the max or keep it just to 1% and try to use LSI keywords. In each article around 3-4 or more LSI will help you recover.
HADAKUMULLAH