Should Michel be Banned?

Hi I com to this place because I have trace down tha michel man. English not my first speaking so try hear me. I bought his fault yahoo tool and I mad, I com here and see many people mad too! But I look at his speaking here and why will he not talk to about case? He was here yesterday man, why is he liing and hideing this case, I make this vot to see how people think off him, I want my money back man! Why is he have special power, is this case new and I com here in time or nobody listenting! He must speak now because I mad, das why I trace down, and I find here too, he rip many people man! I also like this place for how it is, but I don no if I could be happy cus he control here. People tell me wat you like, for him to be ban? Becyase he keep ductin users on here, do anybody understand? How he come in high chair and don answer people question? Just tink problem will dispear?

If you no no who is michel, den you must see these now!

http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/members/2854-michel.html

he bring ass here yesterday and no reply!
Look at red mod, WTF?

He scam dese people plus the super mod here and WTF? He no answer after been here!

http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/black-hat-tools/7180-michel-s-yahoo-answers-tool-anyone-who-purchased.html

http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/black-hat-seo/6145-michel-scammed-me.html

EVEN HERE MAN!
http://cloakingforums.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/6476064961/m/2081043463

Man I see da post I watch his post and da troll running roun, he say forum clean but don wanna answer question or fix problem, see here were he lie say keep forum clean, he running roun like rat hiding, he dun wana clean forum!

http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/suggestions-feedback/6186-i-didn-t-think-i-really-needed-say.html#post56332

Mak your hideing vot now and lets see what we want man!

Uh... JarJar say what?

Nice first post, by the way. Say hi to the Princess for me.

Don't judge it. You all were thinking the same thing. I just got there first.

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Man you got got, just accept it and please move on...

I wish threads like this would do something, but what are you going to do about that honestly...

WhiskerBiscuit said:

Man you got got, just accept it and please move on...

I wish threads like this would do something, but what are you going to do about that honestly...

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One of the best things I learned about this game was something I read in Adwords Black Book. It's basically this: "if you're afraid to get hit in the mouth, then you're going to go nowhere in this game." So true. We all get hit. I bought a copy of Adwords Analyzer, and paid $100 for it. Then Overture stopped with keyword data, and that program became useless. I got hit in the mouth. That's the game. I lost $300 in Adwords on a bad campaign in a 2 hour period. I got hit in the mouth. I've tried this, tried that, lost this, lost that. Hit, hit hit. But I'm still in the game, and I'm playing till I win it. So forget Michel, and let's just play the game, people. You have plenty more money to lose, so let's start losing it so we can win it all back. You'll look back and laugh at it later.

yragcom1 said:

One of the best things I learned about this game was something I read in Adwords Black Book. It's basically this: "if you're afraid to get hit in the mouth, then you're going to go nowhere in this game." So true. We all get hit. I bought a copy of Adwords Analyzer, and paid $100 for it. Then Overture stopped with keyword data, and that program became useless. I got hit in the mouth. That's the game. I lost $300 in Adwords on a bad campaign in a 2 hour period. I got hit in the mouth. I've tried this, tried that, lost this, lost that. Hit, hit hit. But I'm still in the game, and I'm playing till I win it. So forget Michel, and let's just play the game, people. You have plenty more money to lose, so let's start losing it so we can win it all back. You'll look back and laugh at it later.

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I think there is a valid point being made here as this software never really worked as was suppossed to since it was launched. I know, as i bought a copy the day later. Adwords Analyzer, on the other hand worked, however they had no control over the Overture keyword data. Now i'm not one to cry like a baby over any of my wrong decisions, however there should be line drawn from a decent product to a scammer's product.

I noticed not too long after he setup a membership site. You can view it here hxxp://www.site-gold.com

He quotes from Ann Richards,

"There is a lot more to life than just struggling to make money."

Beside this, a picture of him or somebody...holding a child.

TALK ABOUT REVERSE PSYCHOLOGY !
Now wouldn't you have felt pitty , or felt more trusting with JUST a simple method like that. This is a great pointer to you guys, especially those deriving from more honesty then fiction. I was not fished in by this one as i already figured this dude inside out since the Yahoo tool.

If you also look back in history you would notice how he also always would try and steer people to go "whitehat"....because blackhat is short term. Which is true, but not a valid excuse in my opinion on passed incidents. However, he claimed at the same time his great expertise in the cloaking side of things. I think you heard or read about the quality job he did for superman.

Must say this guy is psychologically smart to manipulate the most of people and this is the reason I'm actually spending some time on this topic since i been ignoring it for quit some time. I guess he's made his decision after-all. Short-term.

Blackhat IS short-term but was spammer23's a short term product or a useless scammer's product? Ask yourself this question.

In the court room I wouldn't have enough proof to slam this guy under however I'm confident I'll never scoop down to any level as low as he has.

Well this forum needs to write, a I am sorry superman you were right ...

yragcom1 said:

One of the best things I learned about this game was something I read in Adwords Black Book. It's basically this: "if you're afraid to get hit in the mouth, then you're going to go nowhere in this game." So true. We all get hit. I bought a copy of Adwords Analyzer, and paid $100 for it. Then Overture stopped with keyword data, and that program became useless. I got hit in the mouth. That's the game. I lost $300 in Adwords on a bad campaign in a 2 hour period. I got hit in the mouth. I've tried this, tried that, lost this, lost that. Hit, hit hit. But I'm still in the game, and I'm playing till I win it. So forget Michel, and let's just play the game, people. You have plenty more money to lose, so let's start losing it so we can win it all back. You'll look back and laugh at it later.

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Agreed with this, I have lost nearly $1000 to date (not at bhw though) since I started about a year ago. I purchased a program from someone at DP and that person just disappeared and didn't follow through. One must use due diligence when considering these kinds of purchases.

I totally agree with yragcom1 and revax.

But do you also believe that these sellers should not be exposed and be selling their non-functional products to other members? This is what i do not seem to understand. If you feel this is your way of getting even with your competition then fine, however I am not in that state of mind to be thinking anywhere along those lines in this situation.

The internet changes, and it changes fast.

If I counted all the money I've blown on shit that didn't make me the money it promised, it's well over $10,000.

But all through that $10k I was learning - I was mostly learning what DIDN`T work, which led me eventually to what does. If I hadn`t lost over $10k in crummy products and services, I wouldn't have learned what I know today - which makes me thousands every month.

At that point it becomes easy - would you spend $10,000 to make $3000-$5000 every month in extra income? That makes it look like an easy decision, but oh wait there's the part where you don't make that kind of money until you've been in the game for a while.

I own an offline business so I don't have time for whitehat bullshit. I come online now and just turn on the tools. Get automation and get it big!

titalian said:

But do you also believe that these sellers should not be exposed and be selling their non-functional products to other members?

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Since it's a rule that we don't steal products from each other, it might follow that we don't rip-off each other either.

Best,
Sine

Addendum to the above: seems this forum's Mod's are slow to recognize fraud, so I'll be slow in returning.

Best wishes,
Sine

Michel sold his tool here SEVERAL MONTHS AGO. Since then, he stopped selling here, and we close all the threads dealing with his sales, when he become mod.
If you bought afterwards, then you bought from his own website, on YOUR OWN. The forum does not have anything to do with the sales that were done afterwards.
So, if you are unsatisfied, take this problem SOMEWHERE ELSE. The forum IS NOT RESPONSIBLE for Michel's other outside business and we are not RESPONSIBLE to watch you out so that you do not get scammed.

So, do not come here at first post and claim that we should ban him cause you get scammed, BECAUSE YOU HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS FORUM, you have not been here, and you have not bought anything from us . You just came here to complain? GO somewhere ELSE.

Thread closed. Those who are unsatisfied with Michel's purchases, and do not have wait patience to wait for an explanation, then GO and take OTHER ways of dealing with the situation: chargeback, paypal complaint, support ticket, etc...

Do not come here as if WE are responsible for you, because we ARE NOT.

Thread closed, if other mods wants to open it to continue the discussion feel free to do so, but in my opinion this is a dead end.

TO PUT IT SIMPLE: The forum is not associated with MICHEL and we do not mess into his business. IF you buy service from him outside the forum, cloaking forums, or from his websites, then you are on your own.