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shit like this really annoys me

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by proxygo, Apr 24, 2015.

  1. proxygo

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    so i get this pm from a guy, a guy who last enquired about my service 2 years ago
    never heard back from him.........til today

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    i work hard for my subs, i charge1 fee all in for a product delivered all year round
    i do discounts for multiple buys, i dont do monthly subs as that is cash cowing the buyer
    and i def dont take payments for a bhw member whos payment comes from a friend...
    to harsh.... whats next a discount because my kitchen is bigger than yours..........

    its been said many times by vips here i dont charge enough, my worth, thats because its
    about offering value for money, but hell if i work nuts and bananas, rant over.
     
  2. archon10

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    lol for once I can relate. I get people offering a byline on their shitty blog as payment in return for my work. GTFO

    I love the "I'm broke and can't afford you" shit. Ain't my fault you're from a third world country and broke. I got billz and they require them dolla dolla billz yo.

    The other famous line is "I will pay you more later" or "I have lots more work for you." Yeah buddy, dgaf.
     
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  3. RuthSam

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    What did he reply ?
     
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    I kinda hope he sees this thread because I miss the other good delivery thread that got deleted.
     
  5. proxygo

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    the - take a payment from my friend , yeh like thats not re flag
    seen all the shitty scams on bhw , and be along time since i was suckered .
    like u said archon , i have bills to pay as well, and bills in the uk are the highest
    in europe.
     
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    I find it annoying when people that already have internet access and are in the IM field whine about being from a 3rd world country and use that as an excuse for being broke.
     
  7. proxygo

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    agreed STK, ive had 12 years in my field, all self tought , been around biggest sites in
    my field, been mod/admins on a few big sites all through working on my own, i dont use
    circumstance to gain favor or play the injured animal, you work hard, do the time
    apply the method and work it, where you come from has nothing to do with being
    good in your field and making money from it. your either good or u suck.
    but dont use your circumstance to try and lower another persons worth
    it wont end well

    ps..ruthsam he hasnt replied yet
     
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  8. AJPalawon

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    Maybe he will reply in another 2 years haha :)
     
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    so you do not give discounts?:deal:
     
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    May be, my friend, you've broken his poor heart! You'll meet a lot of prospects like this one in the long run, and I humbly advice you to be a little more warmer than that to them. Or make another lower-rate service group (ofc which will not be of less quality by your already high standards) just to suit those guys -- would do a lot of good to everyone. You'd get a whole big market from the 3rd world in the process! Your horizons would grow too.


    As I am from a third world country, the conversion from say INR to US$ or GBP becomes too unaffordable although the overall quality of the service (your service for example) is a need of the moment. Even say a GBP 100 become 100 times (multiplied by) approximately 100 (the conversion rate at present), and it goes beyond the means of a prospect however he wants your great service... I am almost sure that when he asked for that little discount, he didn't mean to emotionally blackmail you in giving that discount :). He was just stating his difficulty due to some underlying facts... Create another good (for everyone concerned) sub-group of service, and I am sure that it will be a greatly profitable (sub-) product for you in the long run!

    God bless! :)

    P.S.;

    May be, keep this subgroup available for only some countries, and you may offer less number of features and also give limited amount of customer care service (say 4 or 6 times instead of 12 annually). May be, you vasn highlight the fact that though the CC service is limited, the qulity will still remain 100% top quality!

    Put that in highly professional but also very likeable marketing terms and you will attract loads of prospects from those countries, who might already know what HiQ services you offer to the top countries in the world, and to the top Asian IM'ers who can easily afford those current rates, and thus they need your services desperately to be among the online successes like your other esteemed clients, but may not have that kind of money in hand for whatever reasons...

    Please consider this as an opinion from the heart of a friend who wants you to prosper more, and who also wants the people from the "3rd-world countries" to be able to avail or afford those HiQ services... :) Wouldn't that be a greatly prudent marketing strategy?
     
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  11. proxygo

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    srb , i fully understand what your saying , and i offer discounts on to all my
    subs upto 50GBP that what 70-80$ if they buy multiple products ide call that nice
    but not for buying 1. as i said 1 charge 1 fee all in for all year round service
    i dont spueeze users with a monthly sub, i live in the uk where bills are high.
    many vips ive come across have said what i charge once, for unlimited use
    is way to cheap and should be yearly...i think im cheap enough without working
    for peanuts....u act as if i dont care, all my users would disagree

    im already running 6 products at 7hrs a day, i dont really have time to
    lauch another. if user wants a cheap service plenty on bhw doing a monthly
    sub, why should i change my service 1 fee all in for 1.
     
  12. Spawnie

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    They have the same options as everyone else in this world... they most probably earn in USD and if they don't, they are doing something wrong.
    At any way it is like this: if you can't afford, you can't buy it - simple isn't it?
    The only difference is that a lot of people from 3rd world countries think that they are entitled something cheaper for the single fact that they are living in a 3rd world country. Its a wrong mindset.
    Usually people from 3rd world countries could be charged even more than others because their cost of living is WAY lower than for everyone else.

    ps:
    Before the hate starts: I live in a 3rd world country - I would never even think about asking for a discount.
     
  13. dbands

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    I live in a third word country and never did I play the victim card. I use scrapebox, payed for at the same price everybody does, I use SENuke and pay monthly like everybody else.

    I have Amazon sites though, where I do not receive my money simply because the postal services here are not dependable and you end up with checks never reaching you. So I self fund the infrastructure for my Amazon sale up to the point where it makes it worth my while to make a plan to collect the check via courier etc. I also do other stuff online to supplement my income.

    But never once did I play the I am from a 3rd world country card. I would gladly use a barter system if I could on services where I pay for goods or services with an Amazon Gift Card or use a barter mechanism, that will solve my personal not getting my Amazon payments. But I did not attempt this way of payment as I know Cash is king and if somebody offers me any other type of payment, other than cash I would start questioning the motives behind such a transaction.

    So I did not try to offer this as payment etc, but rather pay in cash, this is the way the world works (I think), but if people are open to accept Amazon Gift Cards, let the third world know. You might make a lot of money and get a lot of stuff you never thought you wanted or you might get scammed out of your mind.

    In short.
    Cash is king and I think it is not unreasonable to request the right amount of cash, based on the quality of service you offer.
     
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  14. ZennoBlaster

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    "Dear bro" is quite endearing. Btw, are you bros?
     
  15. proxygo

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    i think not, im no1s bro