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Service on BHW doesn't work anymore

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by rayee, Oct 5, 2013.

  1. rayee

    rayee Power Member

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    Almost every service on BHW claims to bypass Google and can beat Google's updates. However, it proves not to be so. I tested a few websites on several packages with different providers and when Google updates come, all dropped and got de-indexed. Some did retain their rankings but were within top 50 - 100. Every provider that i purchased from and spoke to tried to shift the blame and said it was because of this and that and most lied that they have a few hundred clients and most of them are still ranking well .

    One of the provider actually gave me a link to his entire account accidentally (Website Bug) and i saw all of his campaigns and he didn't have a few hundred clients (He claimed he had 500) but < 20. Other than 1 or 2 campaigns, the rest were doing very badly.

    Thus I assumed that the providers on BHW are usually lying out of their teeth (which i won't blame) to get more customers and that buying service on BHW is no longer the way to go. A PBN is more like it , i guess and of course, white organic methods
     
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  2. Duffers5000

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    Bit of a blanket statement. Are you saying you have split tested every service on offer and got these results.

    Regardless I have white hat sites hit by the latest update as much as black hat sites. I have gotten great results from one package I got two weeks ago and its been unaffected by the update.

    Either way I wouldnt want to be selling cut price seo. There are no guarantees for any site at the moment.
     
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  3. Peter Ngo

    Peter Ngo Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    They are not google, if they said they can bypass google, it is only statement of salemenship.

    Seo outsourcer should really understand value of what they are buying, counting solely onprovider will not work.

    I have seen many provider claimed "it is gonna be safeeeeee!". Oh well, building links is noy safe to begin with.

    Anyway, all the best to your journey.
    Peter
     
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  4. SEOWhat

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    you cant say that in name of everyone since every website is different, and the results and techniques you receive may work on some other websites. So keep your results for yourself or share them in service sales page, not creating some general topic about that.
     
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    I don't think you're correct. I've purchased a couple of SEO service from SarkarK and my website's ranking is still strong in spite of the new update.
    My website is ranked #3 and #11 respectively for the desired keywords, and they have tough competition.

    Some services might not work, but there are always some that work! :)

    Edit: Just so that you know, mine's not for Google (US), but for Google (FR)
     
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  6. IamNRE

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    Agreed.... there are a lot of crappy SEO providers on here. Most of the providers don't know shit about SEO but still sell their services.
     
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    Yes, But there are still some dudes like me :D
     
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  8. rayee

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    I would say that mine is for a local search engines and not for Google USA. I would post on those threads right after my stint with them have ended to be fair. It have been 1-2 weeks and then Google update rolled out and suddenly all dropped. I confronted one of them earlier with hard evidence and he then admitted to me that everything was not so good. Previously, he was lying to me about his clients doing so well. Bullshit.
     
  9. SocialMediaManager

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    First of all your title is misleading as you are talking about SEO services only and you made your Title "Service on BHW"

    SEO is just one Subsection of Services that are provided in BHW

    If you say SEO services of BHW SEO service Providers dont work then only God Knows what works there is a huge competition between SEO service Providers and each is trying their best

    As a Buyer you should know what you are buying unless you are outsourcing your whole SEO campaign
     
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    I feel your pain and you are right about some services.
    However saying that the Service BHW doesn't work anymore, it's not even close.
    For example, there are several sellers providing the same type of service (link type, article lenght/unique/spun, etc). However only 1 of them has positive results. And not even even that provider has 100% of the time positive results. It also depends on niche, on-site optimization, etc.

    What I do when I select sellers is this:
    I read the reviews/replies on their selling thread. If I see tons of reviews, but non are talking about actual serp improvement (this goes for complex or high PR services mostly), then it's probably one of the hyped services.
     
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    Well also just beware of fake or paid for reviews of serp movement to no.1 that never happened!
     
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    80-20 rule applies here too. Only 20% service providers are worth it and it's up to the buyer whether he is hiring these quality providers or crappy ones. The best part is that these 20% providers are actually the ones who go home with most number of sales. It's a fact and the sooner you accept it, the better it is. Rather than crying over rotten eggs, you should choose the good ones and have a good meal. That's what I believe in.
     
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  13. IamBlackhatter

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    BHW is still the best marketplace ever if you know to pick the right seo providers.
     
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    you probably spend a few hundred and your here crying about iit some of the sellers are bad but believe me when the are from bhw some of the will provide quality work try services like lady gaga goole rider this are this that work and has been proven
     
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    Agree. There is good provider push my ranking and some make my sites sandboxed!
     
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    Indeed. Dont blame the whole marketplace. Instead blame yourself Coz you made a wrong Investment.
     
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    You missed in you title buddy, you are saying that services on BHW doesn't work anymore. If you think so your are wrong. Its not BHW fault or service providers fault that your websites got hit. Its all depend on you before buying just make sure what you are going to purchase and will it work or not. First make a research on it yourself as an example you have a health niche site and if you but good high pr adult niche links then you will get penalty and you know who is guilty for that. :)
    Don't worry just do what you like. Best Of Luck for your journey.
     
  18. steelballs

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    OP OK so for example you walk down a road in the pouring rain...

    On the left hand side the sidewalk is dry and there is a covered walkway...

    On the right hand side there is no shelter with water and mud on the sidewalk...

    Walk down one side and keep dry - walk down the other side get wet and muddy feet...

    In IM it's called background profiling and due diligence do that and up pops the service that delivers...:cool:

    It ain't rocket science but 1000's are too lazy to make some simple checks...

    That is why they get shafted buying dodgy services...
     
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  19. R0meo

    R0meo Senior Member

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    there are always be bad and good sellers It has been like that for thousands of years. It is just a law of marketing. Some sells gold and calls it gold, some sells shit and calls it gold.
     
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    Any person who claims they are google safe is not telling the truth...that would mean they have an inside track to know what Google is gonna do at all times...and unless they work at Google or their name is Matt Cutts.....they dont know this background information....they would have to know 6-12 months in advance what Google is gonna do at all times....

    With this being said there are reputable guys i have gotten results with...but use at your own discretion!
     
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