Separate C Class IPs - Are they worth the cost?

Are separate C Class IPS Necessary for Effective SEO?

  • Yes - Google will devalue links to a target site if from same/similar IP group.

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  • No - Google doesn't really look at IP groups when determining link value.

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Hey Micallef, I think I can really help you here.

I don't know if you read backlinks hydra from Terry Kyle or not, but from his tests it really seems like that Google considers backlinks from the same ip as one.

I invested some budget to buy some high pr domains to get backlinks from, and I too had trouble searching for a good seo hosting company.

You name it, they all got fake reviews etc. But I found a good one that is also pretty cheap, google indianets. They have chat support, they are cheap, and they are working good.

Hope this helps,
Isac
 
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i may have misunderstood the initial question but....seems like your looking to use a largish network of your own to do your own interlinking with for serps boost. for that you would benefit from having spread out c class ip's but for general hosting....

it would be, imo at least, important just to avoid g footprint,the same reason not to have all your sites on one registrar company/account. having all your eggs in one basket makes it to easy for them all to get found/crushed if big g doesnt like something your doing with one/one cluster of them
 
I research different c-class hosting before.Some of them really have bad reviews.

I've used one of the company called aseohosting.Not too bad.But I've cancelled it because it's quite expensive.

Some of the decent normal hosting companies will provide different class-c ips upon requests.So you should probably use them instead of companies that specifically targeting different c-class hosting.My 2 cents.;)
 
Different C-classes IP are useless for interlinking. If you want to use a different IP range, you should always go with different A or B class IP.

An IP consist of 4 parts AAA.BBB.CCC.xxx - the first part is called A-class, the second part B-class and the third part C-class. So any IP under the last part will be in the same C-class. So for example:

123.123.123.1 and 123.123.123.2 are in the same C-class but
123.123.123.1 and 123.123.124.1 is in two different C-classes

As you can see, even if you have 2 differents website hosted on two diffrent C-classes ( 123.123.123.1 and 123.123.124.1 ), it really is easy for the SE to find out that your website are related. If your website go through a manual review, you are pretty much screwed.
 
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J0kerz said:
it really is easy for the SE to find out that your website are related. If your website go through a manual review, you are pretty much screwed.
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manual review is a total different thing,you can do nothing to save you if a manual review take place.
 
Micallef said:
I would like to measure the feeling here on the forums, as to whether paying for separate C class IP addresses is a worthwhile SEO investment.

Rough pricing is $4000 per year for 100 C class IPs.

We all know the theory - Google will not trust back-links from websites hosted on the same or neighboring IP groups.

So in order to trick Google into thinking our fake websites are providing genuine trustworthy links, we need to place our websites on separate IP groups.

What is your opinion on this - does the IP issue still matter?

I am sure I am not the only one who would like to learn more about this.
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dude i think you are paying a lot and no doubt if you have 100 sites on 100 c-class ips it would really help ya. Oh btw i have been using these people for past 1 year and quite cheap and reliable:
http://www.biggest-hosting.com/seo_hosting.html

I hope this would lower down your monthly budget :)
 
I have been interested in c block hosting since last September, but after doing some research it seems nothing has moved forward in finding a solid seo host.

Just like Miccalef said, they all have a lot of very bad reviews and none of them seem to cover all the foot prints if you go by what is in their advertisements at least.


I do not mind buying a lot of cheap 2-3 dollar a month hosting plans, but the decent looking ones run out pretty quick and then you have to consider the ones that look like you will not hear from support for a week. Plus you have to worry about those real cheesy ones closing shop overnight, which has happened to me a few times already.
 
m also hunting for a good and afforable c class ip host.
m into ecommerce, and one of my competitor was behind me for a tough keyword. within 2 weeks, he is in 2nd place. while i am still stuck at 9.
and used spyglass to analyse his tactics and it is autoblogs with his own links. to keep it short, network of blogs with his own links.
 
This answered a lot of questions for me. Thanks everyone! Very informative. I am going to be setting up some stuff with aseohosting. I'll let you know what I think. So far, they seem to be the ones with the least complaints! ha ha.
 
I believe unique Class A's or B's are a better way to go as they are more distributed and leave less of a footprint.

100 IPs linking to a site from the same C Class can easily be devalued by Google as this would pretty much never occur naturally in regular link building.
 
I use separate class c ips and to keep the cost down I run a handful sites on each IP. I also map out how the ips interlink so as not to create a footprint. Some argue the whole shared hosting thing and how there are 1000 sites on the same ip. I can tell you those links are still discounted if you link heavily between sites. The odds of that happening naturally are astronomical. Your ok with linking a few sites on shared hosting but if you have a decent sized network it will be obvious to the big G.
 
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I use separate class c ips and to keep the cost down I run a handful sites on each IP. I also map out how the ips interlink so as not to create a footprint. Some argue the whole shared hosting thing and how there are 1000 sites on the same ip. I can tell you those links are still discounted if you link heavily between sites. The odds of that happening naturally are astronomical. Your ok with linking a few sites on shared hosting but if you have a decent sized network it will be obvious to the big G.
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Shared hosting is better in many respects, except price, as long as you get multiple accounts on multiple hosts. That is the most natural structure.
 
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what if you start the network with high pr expired domains? People say they lose the PR, but I bought one as a test once and it went down from PR2 to PR1, not the end of the world... you can find expired domains with PR 4,5,6 and do a mininet on different c-class IPs - would there be any benefit of that in terms of the PR juice flowing to the money site?
 
tomlondon said:
what if you start the network with high pr expired domains? People say they lose the PR, but I bought one as a test once and it went down from PR2 to PR1, not the end of the world... you can find expired domains with PR 4,5,6 and do a mininet on different c-class IPs - would there be any benefit of that in terms of the PR juice flowing to the money site?
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I constantly purchase expiring domains with PR from godaddy auction and often find top quality links pointing to the domains which I could never usually get.

The newbies usually say that PR drops when purchasing domains with pagerank, but i guess that only comes from people that can't be bothered to do there own tests.

Here is an idea, Purchase a quality PR4+ domain from godaddy ($100) hosting ($60) now create a blog with minimal int/ext links, now simply sell 3 links a year at $60 and then you get yourself a quality link on a unique IP for free. Now simply repeat.
 
how about IPv6 ?

I mean when this kicks in for good, there will be so many IP-adresses available, that they should be easy to get for almost no money at all.

Any people know how IPv6 inflicts and will inflict on G ?
 
Tim1505 said:
I constantly purchase expiring domains with PR from godaddy auction and often find top quality links pointing to the domains which I could never usually get.

The newbies usually say that PR drops when purchasing domains with pagerank, but i guess that only comes from people that can't be bothered to do there own tests.

Here is an idea, Purchase a quality PR4+ domain from godaddy ($100) hosting ($60) now create a blog with minimal int/ext links, now simply sell 3 links a year at $60 and then you get yourself a quality link on a unique IP for free. Now simply repeat.
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This is exactly what I had in mind... DIY high PR blog network - and if the websites lose PR after the next update, screw it, buy another expired domain...
 
i dont think its worth it unless your creating a huge network strictly for the purpose of backlinking.
 
Rushdie said:
i dont think its worth it unless your creating a huge network strictly for the purpose of backlinking.
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Well, here's an idea - link co-operative. How would it work? 10 people buy 10 expired high PR domains and set up blogs on different B or C class IPs. They place links to their money site in a keyword rich blog posts related to their niche. Then, they set up the other 9 guys as contributors on their WP blogs, and those 9 guys add their own links to their own money sites on keyword rich blog posts related to their 9 niches. You end up with 10 people with 10 blogs each (that hopefully still retain at least some PR until the next update) and each money site has 100 links from all blogs (10 blogs multiplied by 10 people). Each person only paid for 10 domains and a hosting plan with 10 individual IPs and is free to keep selling links on their websites to recoup the initial outlay. Since the whole thing would be controlled by 10 people, it would be nearly untraceable, as long as 100 blogs have some random unrelated links and blog posts as well...

If that wouldn't give you a massive push in the SERPs, I don't know what will... You would naturally need some junk links as well to diversify the money site's link profile, but with 100 contextual links from PR4,5,6 blogs results could be very, very impressive...

Any thoughts? Who wants to join?
 
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