icemetal
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That's a typical response right here. You admit that it's a bit harder and that "you need to improve and up your skills" but if it keeps getting harder and everyone has to keep "upping their skills", then eventually you'll get diminishing returns as everyone gets more and more competitive and SEO becomes impossibly difficult which I believe is happening right now.
Th3 Canadian 3h
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if you look at the beginning of seo nothing has changed it’s always been hard, it’s always been adapting and overcoming the market changes. I think with the current changes it’s just pushing out the gurus and the fiver packages. Even when you look at the people complaining what are they doing? Basic backlinks? Crappy content? Shitty on page?
how many people build websites to test new market ideas? The good seo guys. Not for money, if anything it cost money to test ideas.
most throw up Amazon sites and get clients then complain it’s not working because they take on projects and clients and guess what works.
if your always learning, looking and testing then nothing has really changed.
in my opinion
icemetal
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How do you know that? There's plenty of folks, myself included, who poured blood, sweat, and tears into our websites with the highest quality articles, highest quality (and very expensive) backlinks, and everything else. Yet, we struggle. So it's extremely offensive when folks like you come in here and assume we're not profitable in IM because our websites are crap and we're not working hard enough. Once again you're gaslighting.
Th3 Canadian 3h
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with all those high end backlinks and top notch content have you looked at your competitors because they are using seo properly. Or they wouldn’t be there in my opinion. I’m not gaslighting I’m playing chess not checkers
sarutobi87
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There is no point in replying him/her. You are wasting your time.
RAP
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Best replies ever.
I've built a mantra when I read these kind of replies.
Are kids, with 0 real experience on field.
Do you consider kids' words? Are kids' words based on experience?
No.
When you read "Ch4ng3 y0ur m3nt4l1ty b0oO0!!1!1", move on... Kids' words.
In my country have teached me that if you have no experience or you do not know what you are talking about: shut up, do not talk, do not open your f****ng mouth because you are ridiculous.
Roger Marquez
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This is NOT true for most search queries and, even if it is, Google is NOT the only search engine.
Sure, it´s the beast taken the vast majority of the market but I am guessing they will only be able to keep up with this until they start experiencing a drop in their revenue because more and more people started using other more user-friendly not-ads and less intrusive search engines...Oh, wait!
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If I was Google, I too would try to rank first the pages that either directly make me money or pages that I own. I noticed they now serve Youtube videos with timestamps to keyword matches based on video transcripts. Might not be new, but I only recently noticed it in my region.
Building a recognizable brand that yields a lot of direct traffic is the safest bet for the future. Second bet is to invest into pages, where you have big enough profit margins that you can afford to buy ad traffic and still pocket the difference. I was "out of the game" for a few years and when I came back, I noticed that main mentality of content-drivel producers shifted from doing pages "made for AdSense" to "made for selling guest posts and links", only constant remaining: low quality content.
There are way too many web pages nowadays and most content is garbage. I cringe every time I am buying guest posts on pages that are relevant to my niche, have good stats, traffic, but I would never visit or keep visiting those pages to read them, because they are just too low quality and only made to capture traffic with SEO manipulation and content inflation. When browsing around the web, I often ask myself on some particular page: who tf reads this? To me, most web pages in top 10 SERP are just obstacles preventing me from finding the information I am actually looking for. This doesn't happen always and there are some authority sites that rank well and rarely fail me, but as soon as I go slightly off-road into the unknown, I end up refining search terms endlessly and even venturing onto page 2 or 3. Google still sucks at discovering quality content or products.
Building a recognizable brand that yields a lot of direct traffic is the safest bet for the future. Second bet is to invest into pages, where you have big enough profit margins that you can afford to buy ad traffic and still pocket the difference. I was "out of the game" for a few years and when I came back, I noticed that main mentality of content-drivel producers shifted from doing pages "made for AdSense" to "made for selling guest posts and links", only constant remaining: low quality content.
There are way too many web pages nowadays and most content is garbage. I cringe every time I am buying guest posts on pages that are relevant to my niche, have good stats, traffic, but I would never visit or keep visiting those pages to read them, because they are just too low quality and only made to capture traffic with SEO manipulation and content inflation. When browsing around the web, I often ask myself on some particular page: who tf reads this? To me, most web pages in top 10 SERP are just obstacles preventing me from finding the information I am actually looking for. This doesn't happen always and there are some authority sites that rank well and rarely fail me, but as soon as I go slightly off-road into the unknown, I end up refining search terms endlessly and even venturing onto page 2 or 3. Google still sucks at discovering quality content or products.
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Hamza SEO Anchor
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What is this pdf method?
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You're kind of pessimistic.
There are lots of things you can do with the content of your site to drive traffic from so many places that it may not even be relevant to rank on first page.
SEO is just changing not dying. Of course, the CTR are going down. Google keeps updating its algorithm and that's expected. We cannot worry about anything that can't come under our control. Instead we need to adapt to the changes. Grow your traffic and business to look for ideal customers. Be it SEO or paid ads. That's what Google tries to do by changing its algorithms.
Fang Yu
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I was waiting for this kind of thread to share this one:
https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/spam-doesnt-work-jk-1-6m.1357683/
https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/spam-doesnt-work-jk-1-6m.1357683/
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The more people who think SEO is dead the better.
DeadJoe
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There used to be a time when you could make a 5 page site, scrapebox/gsa shitty comment blast - Rank and Bank.
As google got better at detecting spam, we moved on to PBNs and Web 2.0's with heavy tier 2 spam.
Today people build their PBNs like they built their money sites back in the day. You see more sophisticated spam. The algorithm focuses on search intent, topical relevancy, CTR, and lots of other factors.
The point is, it has always been this way. It's not just SEO, as time goes by we have better tech, better resources and as humans evolve, so do their systems. Look at how much better all of the Social networks are at detecting spam than what they used to be. How retargeting has taken over and you now get really targeted ads. What makes you think Google is not going to evolve? at the end of the day, it is a FOR PROFIT company. Google will do whatever they need to do, to make more money.
There is no point in bitching. You just have to roll up your sleeves and keep on doing what you're doing. Nothing will ever be constant. This is just how life works. Just because you have it good today, doesn't mean it will remain the same way for the rest of your life. Either get with the program or sell your website.
It is, and has always been, the survival of the fittest.
As google got better at detecting spam, we moved on to PBNs and Web 2.0's with heavy tier 2 spam.
Today people build their PBNs like they built their money sites back in the day. You see more sophisticated spam. The algorithm focuses on search intent, topical relevancy, CTR, and lots of other factors.
The point is, it has always been this way. It's not just SEO, as time goes by we have better tech, better resources and as humans evolve, so do their systems. Look at how much better all of the Social networks are at detecting spam than what they used to be. How retargeting has taken over and you now get really targeted ads. What makes you think Google is not going to evolve? at the end of the day, it is a FOR PROFIT company. Google will do whatever they need to do, to make more money.
There is no point in bitching. You just have to roll up your sleeves and keep on doing what you're doing. Nothing will ever be constant. This is just how life works. Just because you have it good today, doesn't mean it will remain the same way for the rest of your life. Either get with the program or sell your website.
It is, and has always been, the survival of the fittest.
icemetal
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And typical, useless, gaslighting comments. "There is no point in bitching" so predictable like a broken clock.