Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by garrido, Dec 7, 2011.
I am using senuke-x and I'm spending $ 15 a week in captchas. Is this nomal?
Depends on how many submissions you are doing. What service are you using?
Also interested in knowing what service you use. I use DeathByCaptcha and go through like $1 or less a week. And I make a ton of submissions.
You and I have a different idea of what a ton of submissions is.
The most important way to keep your costs of Captchas down is to use the Manual Submissions (not the wizard) so you can re-use the same accounts for multiple submissions.
$0.50 to $25.00 is very normal if you use SENuke a fair amount. Are you using Forum Profiles a lot in your campaigns? Cut them out to save on Captchas, they don't provide a big return and eat up like $0.30 to $0.50 each time to run a campaign using that option.
Either that, or I just know what time of the day is the best time (for me) to schedule submissions
Also have to take into consideration the differences in our templates, etc etc.
I really don't. Captcha usage is basic math. If you consider less than 1,000 captchas being used as a ton of submissions, then we are obviously on a different level of submissions being sent. A ton of submissions for me would be minimum of 5,000 attempted registrations per day. Yes, the templates play a big role in how much captcha usage you will have, but it doesn't change that you simply can't submit "a ton" on $1.00 per week unless you are reusing the same accounts over and over, which I don't consider as efficient usage since it increases the odds of the account being banned and all your work being wasted.
And that's exactly what I'm doing -- using the accounts over and over without getting banned. All of my content submitted is decent quality + highly relevant (for my sites) which works for me, and keeps me from having to make a ton of accounts over and over. Additionally, because these accounts have lasted and aged, that's just more bonus points from a search engine's point of view.
Remember I said in my original post that I make a ton of submissions, not registrations
You and I have different strategies, that's all. Nothing else really needs to be said.
Yes I already said in my first reply that reusing the same accounts will keep costs down, but it also leaves too much risk for a regular user and is not likely to be useful for many users of SeNuke. For example, I use SeNuke for 10 different sites, so its near impossible to keep the content relevant using 1 set of registrations. The amount of time it takes to manage it, wouldn't be worth it for me.
The whole point of my reply is that you pointed out that you use $1.00/week as if that is normal for a ton of submissions. The thread starter is looking to get an idea of what NORMAL usage looks like.
It just isn't practical to compare your captcha usage to anyone else, since very very few people will use SeNuke as you do.
It may not be practical for you, but the OP was asking if his or her captcha usage was "normal." And I gave him or her an answer based off of what I believe to be "normal" and "optimal" just like you did based off of what you believe to be "normal" and "optimal"
SenukeX developers are coming up with a cheaper solution like 10$/month for UL captcha's
Lets wait for that
I understand, but do you understand that if you don't include any key information, such as reusing the same profiles for multiple submissions, you aren't helping anyone at all? You are just confusing people if you make posts like that. And then you add even more confusion by suggesting it may be because of the Captcha service being used, and NOT because you use Senuke in a completely different way then he probably does.
You can obviously see that if he is using $15.00 in Captchas every week, he is probably doing new profile registrations every time he runs it. So when you just suggest $1.00/week is normal, without expanding on WHY you only use $1.00/week, you just confuse the hell out of people. If you are going to take the time to make a post, make it worth while.
I'm not going to assume anything about his method because the $15 could be from a variety of reasons: time of day, registrations, submissions, bad service, etc. You obviously are assuming way too much. Additionally, there are plenty of people using the method that I use. In fact, someone else told me of it. It's just not a method used by you.
Anyhow, please stop speaking for other people in that "everyone" is going to be confused. You are one person, so speak for yourself. Additionally, I've stated the full method from our previous posts so you posting, yet again, was pointless.
You made an assumption that it could possibly be related to which captcha solving service he uses, so don't say you aren't going to assume anything. From the very first post, the only thing you were interested in is which captcha solving service he uses. That is an assumption that the two are related.
I am not saying everyone will be confused, I am saying that your original post offered nothing to this conversation, and I had to force it out of you to get clarification so that people could actually get useful information from your post. Like I said, if you want to take the time to make a post, why not actually put useful information in it?
I am also not saying that you are the only one that uses that method to use SeNuke, but the MAJORITY of users only use the Campaign function of SeNuke. So if you want to discuss using individual modules without the use of the Campaign function, you should clarify that in your original posts so that people can get all the information they need from 1 post.
I can assure you that regardless of what you believe, many people would be confused on how you can make "tons" of submissions using less than 1000 captchas because that is simply not possible using the campaign function.
Wow, all of that BS is getting out of hand, isn't it? Let's get back to your original reply that started all of this. You said, "You and I have a different idea of what a ton of submissions is."
Both of us already explained later that our methods for Senuke X are different. So why in the hell are you still going on about other things?
Instead of continuously going off topic in this thread, send me a PM if you feel like talking about more pointless stuff.
The reason I am continuing is because you don't seem to get the point. I am saying, if you are going to make a statement like "I only use $1.00/week for tons of submissions" then you should feel compelled to clarify your method in the original post, this way you will avoid confusing people.
Since the majority of users of Senuke use the campaign fuction, and they also use deathbycaptcha, and they understand that basic math does not allow for the campaign function to submit tons for $1.00/week, it would be quite confusing.
It is simply common courtesy. That is all. It is like people who post "I made $10,000 this week in CPA." That doesn't contribute anything to the topic or the forum as a whole. In order to make a truly quality contribution, you should try to add more information that will CLARIFY a situation, not confuse it even worse.
Its proper etiquette on a forum to include as much information as possible per post and not be as vague as possible.
Dude, apparently you don't understand that we're getting off topic, and that the proper thing to do would be to PM me? None of the BS you're talking about has anything to do with this thread anymore. The OP doesn't give a crap about your CPA marketing example (at least not in this thread). As a matter of fact, that OP doesn't give a crap about this post of mine either because it's just me replying to your pointless post.
Seriously, just send me a PM if you want to rant some more. I'm already subscribed to too many threads. And I don't know about you, but I have money to make. Not spend all day discussing something that was already taken care of several posts ago.
yes Just depend of your campaign, you can try to use the big sites so they give good back-links.
lol i wish i spent only $15/week... i'm spending $500/week, but not only SEO
I would use Senuke only for web 2.0 profiles and Social networks (web 2.0 properties)
For forum profiles, Xrumer is way better and for Social bookmarking, Sick does its job Well.
So, it's much less $$$ for Senuke when u consider those variables.
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