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Selling SEO online

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Openside, Mar 4, 2015.

  1. Openside

    Openside Power Member

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    Hi guys,

    I have been doing SEO for about 3 - 4 years now and in particular I have done a lot of e-commerce SEO. I mainly done it on my own sites as a hobby and ranked a good few sites.

    I had an offline business that was going well until the last 6 months it has dropped off a cliff.

    I am now starting to run out of funds and have considered offering a service for e-commerce SEO specifically.

    I was thinking of opening a WSO on it but not sure if it is a wise business move.

    A lot of online seo services are sold for very cheap. I would like to offer a quality service so would have to charge more but would only be looking for about 10 - 20 clients at a time.

    Just looking for a bit of input and to see what you guys think?

    Thanks.
     
  2. Jobdollarr

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    What price do you offer for this?
     
  3. Asif WILSON Khan

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    How many ecommerce stores do you currently own? Are they all ranking?
    If you are confident in your skills then turning a hobby into a business can be viable, but starting an SEO agency just because you are short of money doesn't sound promising without a solid business plan.
    Offering a bespoke service to 10-20 clients might be profitable but the market is crowded with a lot of crap, so you might have several very lean months before you start seeing any decent return.
    Everybody says they want to provide a quality service, but unless you have the initial funds in place to run your company for at least the first 6 months then you will be probably be taking shortcuts and compromising on quality pretty fast.
     
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  4. Game On

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    That's good idea, do you have any case studies of your previous works?
     
  5. Openside

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    Thanks for the reply.

    I probably wasn't clear in my first post. I have been thinking about doing this for a while, it is not just I am short of money etc...more like now seems like a good time! Yes I have several e-commerce sites ranking..usually I find ranking e-commerce sites is slower than a standard website.

    That's what scares me a bit from going ahead with it. I do not want to provide a low quality service for a cheap price. I know a lot of people say that but that's not the way I carry myself offline or online.
     
  6. Openside

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    Hi there.

    Yeah I could give some examples out. Obviously I would be outing 1 or 2 of my sites but if need be they are examples.
     
  7. American Trends

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    Bro, don't look at cheap services I have seen a SEO service provider offering services at 49$ and around 2K links and another provider offering 2k links for 2K$ both are getting huge sales. The fact is first one is purely a spam and second one is White Hat. So, the technique makes the difference.
     
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    That, to me, is a pretty good sign that you have some experience in the SEO arena.

    If you are going to target ecommerce sites you are going to have to make sure that your client understands that particular aspect upfront. Unless you explain that well you will be giving back money that was paid to you as expectations from clients can be, and should be, high but as long as you are able to convey the time factor well you should be OK.
     
  9. Openside

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    Thanks for your input.

    My services would be more towards the white hat side definitely. Quality over quantity of links.

    Realistically I would need to charge around $195/month and would possibly only look at taking e-commerce sites as that is what I have most experience in. E-commerce SEO also requires more on page SEO also which I would look to provide. I would like to do the SEO myself so could probably only take on around 15 clients per month.
     
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  10. Jobdollarr

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    In some ways that makes saturation is. Client wants $ 5 to page 1 of google. And I just laughed. It's not fair for service providers
     
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    One dollar for one link and you call this White hat?
    What exactly can you do with $195/month? If you already ranked eCommerce sites you wouldn't be short of money

    Please guys, stop being delusional
     
  12. Jobdollarr

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    To sell seo services. You can use the principles in the WSO. First you sell cheap $ 20. Then sell your expensive services, after you have regulars. If you shoot directly figure $ 200. I think it is very difficult to develop.
     
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  13. Resolution10

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    Dude, no offense but 584 human unreadable posts in 2 months? WTF...
     
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    Are you a bot? Every single post of yours makes zero sense and sounds like it was spun. WTF is going on around here...
     
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  15. Openside

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    That wasn't me who said 2k links for $2,000 so not sure what that was about!

    I like to diversify my income. I do make money with my ecom sites and dropship but not huge money and this would make use of a skill and something I enjoy to make money with also...I don't see a problem with that.
     
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    I've seen him giving doubtful thanks to almost all of the threads made.And the comments were much unrelated sometimes or meaningless most times.So i guess,he'd have to respond and prove that,he is not a bot.
     
  17. American Trends

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    Please have a look at white hat SEO packages in marketplace. You will find services offering xxx links for $XXX and of course they don't have a big setup in USA or UK. And package looks like this 200 links manually created from bookmarking, guest post, forums, images etc. + 200 links from PR distribution =400 and package cost $400 (just an example).

    lol
    The best part is good results are there. Most of the clients are ranking on top.

    But, in reality in white hat is what Google says. Use your own email id or may be your relatives. Use your own IP no proxy please. And please no bots or software. No fake FB share, no artificial G+ votes follow this you won't be able to make bucks even through adsense program. I tried this 5 years back, got my main ip banned by Google, Zero Sales, less than 15 visitor in 15 days.
     
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    Great job! Members like you are contributing a lot to keep spam away.
     
  19. FutureProofSeo

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    E-commerce stores are harder to rank, but the rewards are greater for the client.

    Not to mention that most buyers keywords are full of the most competitive Serps on the web (depending on the niche of course).

    I would market yourself as the e-commerce expert, so then you can make the site, optimise the site, rank the site, help them with conversion, email marketing, shopping cart re-targeting etc.
     
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  20. felinetruce

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    May be start approaching local businesses for SEO packages and get things moving from there.