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SE nuke - Programming language ?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO Tools' started by raicha101, Feb 23, 2010.

  1. raicha101

    raicha101 Junior Member

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    Hey

    What programming language does the SE nuke uses ?
    It seems like an imacros script, only runs in it's own browser.

    Any one knows how to get this done ?

    Thanks
     
  2. TheMatrix

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    It uses vb6, I think. Because, when I watched a tut video of SEN 5.2, it showed the icon of VB6.
     
  3. raicha101

    raicha101 Junior Member

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    Ohh
    But I guess they have created their own web browser + way to automated the fields
     
  4. TheMatrix

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    @raicha101: Senook uses IE. Try this (at your own risk)

    Uninstall IE
    Try and use SEN

    You are wasted. :)
     
  5. justone

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    Lol I just wanted to reply that it is most likely Visual Basic.
    It always left the feeling that some highschool teen wrote it, that's typical VB.

    And it does not have an own browser, it uses IE
     
  6. raicha101

    raicha101 Junior Member

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    LOL
    Any ideas how they are getting it done ? :p I mean the automation that way
    I would like to create some tools for other websites which are not included myself.
     
  7. TheMatrix

    TheMatrix BANNED BANNED

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    You can ask that in vbforums.net ..
     
  8. kautilya007

    kautilya007 Newbie

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    already in process of coding my own senuke.
     
  9. TheMatrix

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    Wow. Don't forget to let me know if you need beta testers.
     
  10. drax2009

    drax2009 Registered Member

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    The 'original' SE Nuke is written in VB6, the new one will be a VB.NET affair. As stated it uses the web browser control that comes with VB6 which is, of course, IE. Its actually a very good piece of programming, if you have ever tried to write a stable multi threaded app using vb6 you will know what i mean :)
     
  11. TheMatrix

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    It isn't "very good". It is smart.

    I am myself a coder, in C. And I tell you, the flexibility, UI, stability and everything could have been much much better than in VB6, if coded in it.

    And yes, whoever coded SEN, is a very talented person. The program can make grands if used properly.
     
  12. indianbill007

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  13. arbydee2

    arbydee2 Regular Member

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    SENuke could have been better done with httpwebrequest. The only problem is it takes a lot of time to debug get and post requests.

    Whoever coded senuke is a very talented programmer, i agree. He figured out how to multithread a webbrowser control which is based on ie. However this automation does come with a few setbacks as you can see.

    We're giving it a shot in building something similar to senuke, only it's faster. I'll post it here once we have a beta available.
     
  14. websicosys

    websicosys Newbie

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    Faster? Perhaps. However you are forgetting that spambot scripts employed by a ton of websites (Google, to say the least) catch websites that don't execute the JS they have embedded. Therefore, the best way to avoid anti's is to use the MSHTML browser control.
     
  15. arbydee2

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    That may be true, but can be properly included if you're programming the bot. Decent website debugging with wireshark or httpanalyzer will fix this. As you may know, javascripts are browser based. That means it has got nothing to do with whatever is going on with the client and the server. It only affects the way you submit get and post commands.

    Again properly debugging these said javascripts and imitating what they do would do the trick.

    Faster? Yes. Better? Definitely.

    How? Say logging on with multiple users at the same time. e.g. Youtube. Instead of uploading one video per account, you can upload 1 videos with 10 different accounts at the same time.

    Another example would be account generation. I noticed that they only do it one at a time. Say i like to create 10 blogger accounts at the same time. This is impossible to do with senuke or any browser based application.

    Why? because they share the same cookie path, they share the same ip, etc, etc.

    It may be harder to code this with httprequest, but the end product is going to be worth it.
     
  16. TheMatrix

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    Absolutely. SENuke isn't worth the $127 recurring. But, we are forced to buy it because of no other competitor.

    Plus, on my 5mbit connection, a circle of SEN takes about one and a half hour, with not 100% success rate. I need something that would do the same in half the time, with greater success rate.

    Also, the price, if kept decent, would be awesome.

    TheMatrix
     
  17. pyronaut

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    Have to remember things like Cookies that are only given to you, based on the execution of javascript. It's the main stopper of spam on Wordpress Blogs, because unless you are running a webbrowser, your web request just cannot execute the javascript. And without the cookie, it won't let you proceed.

    Other than that. You are 100% correct about HTTP Web Requests. Just a bit slow when it comes to debugging is all, since it's not like you have a webbrowser moving right before your eyes. I've recently done a complete Yahoo Answers bot in HTTP Web Requests, and it is just so much easier to handle threading.
     
  18. arbydee2

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    I salute you.

    I've recently debugged the yahoo log in page and there were a ton of parameters for a single post. Must have taken forever to debug :) Plus it's ssl encrypted. I love to see what you've done.

    Also as for the wordpress cookies, yeah thats a bit hard since it's being set by a javascript. Ever looked into a javascript interpreter for your httpwebrequest projects? It will be close to building your own browser from scratch but it's going to kick some ass.

    Anyway the bottom line is dont use a webbrowser for these type of projects. Technically a hand can hit a nail to the ground, but it's not best the tool built for that purpose :)
     
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    ^^Mind giving more info? Plus VT scan?