SE nuke - Programming language ?
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kautilya007
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already in process of coding my own senuke.
TheMatrix
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Wow. Don't forget to let me know if you need beta testers.
The 'original' SE Nuke is written in VB6, the new one will be a VB.NET affair. As stated it uses the web browser control that comes with VB6 which is, of course, IE. Its actually a very good piece of programming, if you have ever tried to write a stable multi threaded app using vb6 you will know what i mean 
TheMatrix
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The 'original' SE Nuke is written in VB6, the new one will be a VB.NET affair. As stated it uses the web browser control that comes with VB6 which is, of course, IE. Its actually a very good piece of programming, if you have ever tried to write a stable multi threaded app using vb6 you will know what i mean
It isn't "very good". It is smart.
I am myself a coder, in C. And I tell you, the flexibility, UI, stability and everything could have been much much better than in VB6, if coded in it.
And yes, whoever coded SEN, is a very talented person. The program can make grands if used properly.
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It uses "Web Browser Automation"
arbydee2
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SENuke could have been better done with httpwebrequest. The only problem is it takes a lot of time to debug get and post requests.
Whoever coded senuke is a very talented programmer, i agree. He figured out how to multithread a webbrowser control which is based on ie. However this automation does come with a few setbacks as you can see.
We're giving it a shot in building something similar to senuke, only it's faster. I'll post it here once we have a beta available.
Whoever coded senuke is a very talented programmer, i agree. He figured out how to multithread a webbrowser control which is based on ie. However this automation does come with a few setbacks as you can see.
We're giving it a shot in building something similar to senuke, only it's faster. I'll post it here once we have a beta available.
websicosys
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Faster? Perhaps. However you are forgetting that spambot scripts employed by a ton of websites (Google, to say the least) catch websites that don't execute the JS they have embedded. Therefore, the best way to avoid anti's is to use the MSHTML browser control.
arbydee2
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That may be true, but can be properly included if you're programming the bot. Decent website debugging with wireshark or httpanalyzer will fix this. As you may know, javascripts are browser based. That means it has got nothing to do with whatever is going on with the client and the server. It only affects the way you submit get and post commands.
Again properly debugging these said javascripts and imitating what they do would do the trick.
Faster? Yes. Better? Definitely.
How? Say logging on with multiple users at the same time. e.g. Youtube. Instead of uploading one video per account, you can upload 1 videos with 10 different accounts at the same time.
Another example would be account generation. I noticed that they only do it one at a time. Say i like to create 10 blogger accounts at the same time. This is impossible to do with senuke or any browser based application.
Why? because they share the same cookie path, they share the same ip, etc, etc.
It may be harder to code this with httprequest, but the end product is going to be worth it.
TheMatrix
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Absolutely. SENuke isn't worth the $127 recurring. But, we are forced to buy it because of no other competitor.
Plus, on my 5mbit connection, a circle of SEN takes about one and a half hour, with not 100% success rate. I need something that would do the same in half the time, with greater success rate.
Also, the price, if kept decent, would be awesome.
TheMatrix
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Have to remember things like Cookies that are only given to you, based on the execution of javascript. It's the main stopper of spam on Wordpress Blogs, because unless you are running a webbrowser, your web request just cannot execute the javascript. And without the cookie, it won't let you proceed.
Other than that. You are 100% correct about HTTP Web Requests. Just a bit slow when it comes to debugging is all, since it's not like you have a webbrowser moving right before your eyes. I've recently done a complete Yahoo Answers bot in HTTP Web Requests, and it is just so much easier to handle threading.
arbydee2
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I salute you.
I've recently debugged the yahoo log in page and there were a ton of parameters for a single post. Must have taken forever to debug
Plus it's ssl encrypted. I love to see what you've done.Also as for the wordpress cookies, yeah thats a bit hard since it's being set by a javascript. Ever looked into a javascript interpreter for your httpwebrequest projects? It will be close to building your own browser from scratch but it's going to kick some ass.
Anyway the bottom line is dont use a webbrowser for these type of projects. Technically a hand can hit a nail to the ground, but it's not best the tool built for that purpose
tivowatcher
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My tool is a direct competitor and won't be $127 per month.
The first public Beta just went live - check it out if you'd like:
http://register.serpassist.com/beta/betaregister.aspx
Video overview is here:
http://register.serpassist.com/videos/IntroVideo/IntroVideo.html
Enjoy!
Dave
The first public Beta just went live - check it out if you'd like:
http://register.serpassist.com/beta/betaregister.aspx
Video overview is here:
http://register.serpassist.com/videos/IntroVideo/IntroVideo.html
Enjoy!
Dave