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[SCRAPEBOX] Safe operations without proxies

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO Tools' started by Salamone, Jul 18, 2012.

  1. Salamone

    Salamone Newbie

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    Which operations are safe to perform without using proxies? I imagine all those that do not rely on search engines, am I right?
    Can someone draft a list of operations that need proxies and that don't?
    Thank you.
     
  2. loopline

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    First off, you should probably know what natively uses proxies and what doesn't in scrapebox. As not everything uses proxies, even if you have the use proxies box checked. Then you can look at what does use proxies and go from there. From my FAQ:

    In some cases scrapebox will not use proxies even if the use proxies box is checked. This is because some elements have no need for proxies and it would only slow things down. To this end this FAQ shows you what elements will and will not use proxies if the use proxies box is checked.
    That is to say, I am going to assume the the use proxies box IS checked, below will tell you if scrapebox will ignore that, or if it will use the proxies.
    Main Scrapebox GUI:
    Fast Poster - Proxies are used
    Slow Poster - Proxies are used
    Manual Poster - Proxies are used
    Link Checker - Proxies not used

    Addons:
    Link Extractor - Proxies not used
    Fake PR Checker - Proxies are used
    Rapid Indexer - Proxies not used
    Backlink Checker - Proxies are used
    ******** Test - Proxies are not used
    ********/Nofollow Check - Proxies are used
    Blog Analyzer - Proxies are used
    Malware Addon - Proxies are used
    Alive Check - Proxies are used
    Google Image Grabber - Proxies are used
    WhoIs Scraper - If you have SOCKS proxies they are used, HTTP proxies are not used

    This FAQ is still under construction.'

    Source: http://scrapeboxfaq.com/when-are-proxies-used-and-not-used-by-scrapebox


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    As for the quick list, unless your using a nice delay and the single threaded harvester, you would probably want proxies for scraping the engines. The reason is just so your home IP doesn't get banned. Which wouldn't negatively affect you using your home pc, but just scraping via tools etc... If you don't need to go fast, setup a random delay and use your IP. If you want to go fast, use proxies.

    The MOST important thing to use proxies for is posting. The reason for this is if someone files a complaint your ISP may not like it. I forgot to use proxies at home one time, and someone sent a complaint to my ISP and they said they would cancel me if it happened again. Not being able to get internet access at your house would be pretty inconvenient. So unless you have an ISP who doesn't care, then you need proxies for posting comments/trackbacks/RSS submission.

    Else you don't "need" proxies for anything really, but in many cases you will be able to go much faster, so thats the reason.
     
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  3. PepeLePew

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    Loopline did a great job answering your question. Could not have answered it better myself.
    Even if you could slow down the speed while using your home IP, it's still too risky and would use proxies.
     
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  4. Salamone

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    Thank you Loopline for your answers!
     
  5. melissa91

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    I would suggest purchasing some private proxies to use for scraping. Set a 1s or 2s delay on them to avoid them getting burned out.

    Nowadays the multi-threaded proxy harvester is a one-way ticket to IP bans unless you have a LOT of proxies.
     
  6. loopline

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    Your welcome mate.
     
  7. Kitsune

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    Actually there are times when you don't have to use proxies for posting. For example my isp didn't care about me spamming blogs and you won't find out if you don't try. Link spam isn't illegal so the worst thing that can happen getting a complaint from isp. Also when purchasing vps you can ask whether it is ok to use seo tools without proxies. I use hostamus and there is no need to use proxies. The reason why i believe posting without proxies is better is because it is faster and also cheaper. However apart from these cases you should always use proxies for posting.
     
  8. sseccajd

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    Loopline, so what your saying is--- that the harvesting does use proxies? Because you didn't mention it in the list... Could I just change my ip granted my ISP is issuing me a Dynamic IP?
     
  9. loopline

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    Yes, both the single and multi threaded harvester use proxies, assuming that you tick off the use proxies box. Yes you could just change your IP, if your ISP lets you do it, but every dynamic ISP I have had makes you reset your modem or something to change IPS. So its really a pain and by the time you spend tons of time dealing with that, it seems easier to me to just add a delay and go have lunch, tea, and go about my life and come back later.

    I didn't really mention using proxies because of the fact that the title of the thread is "safe operations WITHOUT proxies" :)