scrapebox nofollow = fail
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johnnyc9999
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As someone mentioned above, there are a whole bunch of excellent ways you can use Scrapebox that dont involve simply blasting out 1000s of backlink comments to low value domains. Use properly, Scrapebox can give you unbelievable insight on how to dominate your competition.
pilgrim
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I agree, and also suspect that a natural balance (of do and no) is less likely to raise flags at the g.
Most of the time I don't even check anymore
Micallef
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Ok, keep on getting your nofollow links. Utter waste of time.
Nofollow was invented so Google could identify user generated content (i.e. comments) that screw up its results with spam links. It doesn't want to credit all your shitty comment links and knows that spam is everywhere.
Truly sick of hearing that nofollow links are worthwhile! I often think it's just wishful thinking because nofollow links are all that some people can work out how to get.
Nofollow was invented so Google could identify user generated content (i.e. comments) that screw up its results with spam links. It doesn't want to credit all your shitty comment links and knows that spam is everywhere.
Truly sick of hearing that nofollow links are worthwhile! I often think it's just wishful thinking because nofollow links are all that some people can work out how to get.
onenumerology
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cool!
Micallef
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This site, http://www.backlinkwatch.com, will list a spammer's backlink profile and flag all (or most) of the nofollow links.
There is no need to limit yourself to wordpress. Very few of my links come from wordpress blogs - probably less than 2%.
There is no need to limit yourself to wordpress. Very few of my links come from wordpress blogs - probably less than 2%.
So are you saying you use the SB link extractor to get lists of spammers, then manually get **************** links from analysing each of their links on backlink watch?
Are the do/no follow tags reliable in this, because I am confused. I am listing a first page google viagra spammer, and all his links are from blogspot comment spam, and they all flag as no - follow. This doesn't make sense than they can rank so high with links that do not follow. Unless no - follow links DO help (if the anchor text is the keyword being targeted), they just don't pass on PR.
Are the do/no follow tags reliable in this, because I am confused. I am listing a first page google viagra spammer, and all his links are from blogspot comment spam, and they all flag as no - follow. This doesn't make sense than they can rank so high with links that do not follow. Unless no - follow links DO help (if the anchor text is the keyword being targeted), they just don't pass on PR.
Micallef
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You're getting confused here
1) I find my best links by manually going through spammers backlink profiles on Backlinkwatch. Scrapebox doesn't come into it. Because I've been using this technique for some time, I have become very fast at quickly weeding out websites that look useless - for example, if the url structure is 02/04/2010 then I know it's wordpress and therefore worthless - or the probability that it'll be useful is so low that its not worth checking. The nofollow flag on BLW works about 70% of the time, but it does miss some links.
Become experienced and learn what useful (i.e. spammable) urls look like in a backlink profile. Then, when you find a new platform that's vulnerable, take a footprint and manually search for other sites like it. Check PR and all spammable subpages with SEOquake.
I don't really see how scrapebox can help make this process much better.
2) Just because a spammer seems to have a lot of nofollow links, doesn't mean they are the reason for the ranking.
If you find that the backlink profile is not useful to you, quickly move on to another one. I would say that about 1 in 7 backlink profiles I generate are of high quality.
Oh, ok, I see. I am using Backlinkwatch now but it doesn't display the PR for me.
It's bizarre because literally ALL this guy's links are blogspot comments, and are no follow. But they ALL have the appropriate anchor text, the keywords he is ranking for. He's got around 85,000 backlinks, 98% of which are no follow blogspot spam with keyword anchor text.
Now I am starting to see how you do it. Backlinkwatch sure would be useful if it displayed the PR ...
I am so curious, what exactly defines a "good backlink profile"?
LOL at the moment you know, I wish I knew turkish...and russian...and polish... I am trying to find common spam terms, I got a list of about 20 english ones though...
Scrapebox can come into it because its link extractor can extract all outgoing links on the spammed blog page. And it can process many hundreds of blogs at a time. So are you telling me, we must go through thousands of blogs manually until we find a high PR, do follow link that we can comment on too?
If only scrapebox had a **************** indicator, I would be so happy!
It's bizarre because literally ALL this guy's links are blogspot comments, and are no follow. But they ALL have the appropriate anchor text, the keywords he is ranking for. He's got around 85,000 backlinks, 98% of which are no follow blogspot spam with keyword anchor text.
Now I am starting to see how you do it. Backlinkwatch sure would be useful if it displayed the PR ...
I am so curious, what exactly defines a "good backlink profile"?
LOL at the moment you know, I wish I knew turkish...and russian...and polish... I am trying to find common spam terms, I got a list of about 20 english ones though...
Scrapebox can come into it because its link extractor can extract all outgoing links on the spammed blog page. And it can process many hundreds of blogs at a time. So are you telling me, we must go through thousands of blogs manually until we find a high PR, do follow link that we can comment on too?
If only scrapebox had a **************** indicator, I would be so happy!
Micallef
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You can't see all the spammer's inlinks because yahoo site explorer (from which all other backlink checkers derive their information) only shows the first 1000 links.
So all you have found out is that the first 1000 out of 85,000 backlinks are mainly nofollow. No conclusions can be drawn from this finding.
Some people like using scrapebox, some don't, all I will say is this - when it comes to manual blog commenting, it's the signing up, logging in and commenting that takes the time. The manual "scraping" doesn't take much time at-all when done skilfully. However, if you think you can scrape faster with scrapebox then that's fine aswell.
I just spot something that looks promising on BLW profiles, do a site:search, arrange by PR, if it's nothing then move on. Time taken: 15 seconds.
Importantly, there is often a bunch of high PR pages which the original spammer missed. Clean, and high PR - from a site which would have otherwise been overlooked because the originally spammed page had low PR.
So all you have found out is that the first 1000 out of 85,000 backlinks are mainly nofollow. No conclusions can be drawn from this finding.
Some people like using scrapebox, some don't, all I will say is this - when it comes to manual blog commenting, it's the signing up, logging in and commenting that takes the time. The manual "scraping" doesn't take much time at-all when done skilfully. However, if you think you can scrape faster with scrapebox then that's fine aswell.
I just spot something that looks promising on BLW profiles, do a site:search, arrange by PR, if it's nothing then move on. Time taken: 15 seconds.
Importantly, there is often a bunch of high PR pages which the original spammer missed. Clean, and high PR - from a site which would have otherwise been overlooked because the originally spammed page had low PR.
blackieman
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Does it make sense to run that site in SB, and profile all the pages on that site for PR, or would you rather just do that from Firefox using SEOQuake and trust that high PR pages show on first page of SERP.
Micallef
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You are of course entitled to your opinion.
However, I will assert this fact - just because you have 90% nofollow links, this is not proof that nofollow is effective for serps. The argument does not hold water.
None of my sites have anywhere near 8k backlinks but most of them rank well. I'm not a "blaster" - I work with powerful, quality links. It rarely takes more than 300 of them to get what I want to achieve.
striding cloud
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well.... from my own experiment n0follow links DO help my SERP. ( hope to get some opinions from SEO experts here)
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takeachance
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An interesting debate - I agree with Michallef here and the evidence to substantiate this has been provided by both Michallef and Dutch Harry;
Dutch Harry suggests he has reached his ranking objectives through the use of 500 high PR and Do Follow links along with 7.5k wordpress no follow links;
Michallef has indicated that he reaches his ranking objectives through around 300 quality high PR do follow links....
Adopting the Ockhams Razor approach, being the simplest answer (all things being equal) tends to be the right answer, you can deduce that Dutch Harry has probably wasted his time with the 7.5k no follow links when in all likelihood the 500 high PR do follow links would have achieved the same purpose. Michallefs experiences evidence this....
As already intimated here, the intent of the no follow attribute is a great help to the big G in identifying user generated content, not true 'votes' for a site. That said, huge amounts of no follow links will generally give a ranking push however, the amount you will need in isolation is large (8k+ as Dutch Harry can testify to, depending on several other factors as well obviously) and time is far more effectively spent identifying quality do follow, high PR links in my opinion...