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Are you about ready to label someone a scammer or think someone your doing business with is a scammer? You might
want to read this first.
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Noun Form
A confidence game or other fraudulent scheme, especially for making a quick profit; swindle.
Verb Form (used with object)
To cheat or defraud with a scam.
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That is the exact definition of the word scam. Now before you go to start labeling people as scammers and ruining
there reputation across cyber space maybe you can take 5 seconds and make a checklist.
A. Did the person drop communication for a long period of time with no obvious attempt to answer?
B. Did the seller not make any attempt to finish your order even partially?
C. How did you pay the person? (PayPal is safer however Western Union is a instant red flag)
If you answered yes to more than one of these questions you might have a scammer on your hands.
If you cannot purely answer yes to these questions then think about alternative labeling's.
Example:
Poor Communication (A massive start to problems)
Delayed Finish date
Point is you know the problem between you and the seller and I am sure you are creative enough to pick a title to call them
out on instead of instantly going with the hard lined scammer label as a default.
Why should we do this? Simply put people make a living online and eat by it. They spend years building a reputation and
try to honor it and keep it healthy and it can really take a blow to labeling someone a scammer in an indexed page of a
forum or website. Google indexes these pages and when someone searches them they will see "Scam" even if its not the
case. So you are effectively hurting their online reputation over labeling's.
So. Your labels need to be accurate! This is not a game we are playing. This is serious and should be treated that way.
Now let's look at the traits of people who might have made a mistake but are not scammers:
1. People who delay but refund you in the end covering all cost.
2. Partial refunds over a period of time.
3. Honesty about the situation but nothing they can do for a period of time. (It is critical they keep contact)
Now. Does this describe the person you bought from?
If they were scammers you would not have your money or even communication.
I have been scammed when I was fresh online. Guess what?
I never received promises, partial refunds, communication or even a sentiment of care. Those guys grabbed the cash
and went on to the next victim. They did not stick around to bite any bullets. Period.
People may make mistakes in life. But that does not mean they deserve to have there reputation and integrity tarnished
over people not thinking for 5 seconds about who this person really is they bought from. If they are showing integrity and dealing
with refunding you and making it right. Consider yourself lucky because you will not find many people like this. That's a fact.
I am not saying do not call a scammer a scammer. But I am saying think twice before you type "Scam" and click submit.
You can get your money back and call them out without that label you know. By following the procedures above you can insure to show
integrity when calling someone into question. Class goes a long way
Happy selling and buying!
Unclemike
Are you about ready to label someone a scammer or think someone your doing business with is a scammer? You might
want to read this first.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Noun Form
A confidence game or other fraudulent scheme, especially for making a quick profit; swindle.
Verb Form (used with object)
To cheat or defraud with a scam.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
That is the exact definition of the word scam. Now before you go to start labeling people as scammers and ruining
there reputation across cyber space maybe you can take 5 seconds and make a checklist.
A. Did the person drop communication for a long period of time with no obvious attempt to answer?
B. Did the seller not make any attempt to finish your order even partially?
C. How did you pay the person? (PayPal is safer however Western Union is a instant red flag)
If you answered yes to more than one of these questions you might have a scammer on your hands.
If you cannot purely answer yes to these questions then think about alternative labeling's.
Example:
Poor Communication (A massive start to problems)
Delayed Finish date
Point is you know the problem between you and the seller and I am sure you are creative enough to pick a title to call them
out on instead of instantly going with the hard lined scammer label as a default.
Why should we do this? Simply put people make a living online and eat by it. They spend years building a reputation and
try to honor it and keep it healthy and it can really take a blow to labeling someone a scammer in an indexed page of a
forum or website. Google indexes these pages and when someone searches them they will see "Scam" even if its not the
case. So you are effectively hurting their online reputation over labeling's.
So. Your labels need to be accurate! This is not a game we are playing. This is serious and should be treated that way.
Now let's look at the traits of people who might have made a mistake but are not scammers:
1. People who delay but refund you in the end covering all cost.
2. Partial refunds over a period of time.
3. Honesty about the situation but nothing they can do for a period of time. (It is critical they keep contact)
Now. Does this describe the person you bought from?
If they were scammers you would not have your money or even communication.
I have been scammed when I was fresh online. Guess what?
I never received promises, partial refunds, communication or even a sentiment of care. Those guys grabbed the cash
and went on to the next victim. They did not stick around to bite any bullets. Period.
People may make mistakes in life. But that does not mean they deserve to have there reputation and integrity tarnished
over people not thinking for 5 seconds about who this person really is they bought from. If they are showing integrity and dealing
with refunding you and making it right. Consider yourself lucky because you will not find many people like this. That's a fact.
I am not saying do not call a scammer a scammer. But I am saying think twice before you type "Scam" and click submit.
You can get your money back and call them out without that label you know. By following the procedures above you can insure to show
integrity when calling someone into question. Class goes a long way
Happy selling and buying!
Unclemike
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