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scammed by websolutions85

Discussion in 'The Shit List' started by raffael213, Jul 31, 2012.

  1. raffael213

    raffael213 Regular Member

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    Hey guys,

    about 2 weeks ago I was looking for a facebook likes supplier and I've search on this forum and I've found this guy websolutions85

    After I made a deal with him about the price and I send him 140$ to complete the orders I gave him. After 3 days I saw that he didn't deliver a single like to my fan pages and I ask him what is the problem.

    I've got an answer that the person that do this for him is having some problems and he will deliver in the next 2 days and I gave him that 2 days to finaly complete my orders.

    After all 5 days not a single like deliver and I try to contact him and he didn't answer me, I send him messages on skype and PM's here on this forum, but nothing ... after I said I will report him to a moderator here to ban him he said that he doesn't have any money to refund me, but it will send me 50$ from a friend, that been friday and ask me to give him time to monday to refund me the rest of it.

    I try to contact him yesterday and today but nothing. I have a dispute open on paypal and I hope I will get all my money back, but all of you should not deal with this guy because it will be posible to scamm you too.

    The title should say: ''scammed by websolutions85"
     
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    UrsuAke Power Member

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    Proof... where is the proof?
     
  3. hassan_isabad_subar

    hassan_isabad_subar Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    If you're going to put someone on the shit list, you should provide some evidence.
     
  4. raffael213

    raffael213 Regular Member

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    here is a part from our conversation on skype:

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    btw, his skype is seosamad
     
  5. raffael213

    raffael213 Regular Member

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    and I ask first a moderator about this, I didn't want to do that I just wanted my money back
     
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    Never you mind.
    And that conversation was the last you heard from him? He basically begged and then cut contact! What a jerk.

    I hope your dispute goes well for you. I read on another thread here that Paypal are in favour of the buyers usually so you may just be able to get your money back. Just remember ( as someone else also said ) in the dispute you need to claim it was actually a product you were buying, not a "virtual" item. Otherwise it is less likely to be refunded. If you say something like " I paid the user for a service to deliver "**insert product / service*** within **time frame*** and have not received it and buyer has cut contact. " this should help.
     
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    Notified websolutions85.
     
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  8. websolutions85

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    This guy already make dispute of $140 and i already sent $50 for him. I said to him Just wait for PayPal reaction and Get your money back. PayPal is favor of Buyer everyone knows. Now This Guy have my $50. After some days PayPal auto refund this amount of $140.

    And He has my $50. Please Don't said i am scammer. I am honest Person thats why i send $50 to this Guy.

    Hope All BHW members Understand me

    Thanks
     
  9. Th3T3chGuy

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    If Paypal did in fact send the OP the $140, I think it is only fair that the OP refunds websolutions85 the $50. However, I do have to add that Paypal doesn't always side with buyers. I have been scammed before and they have side with the scammer a.k.a seller.
     
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  10. raffael213

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    Paypal didn't refund me, they should do it on 06.08, I really hope I get it back
    And I will sure refund him for his 50$, I don't need money that aren't mine, I never said I will do something and took money for it and never do it ....

    I also do something online for 7 months and I never had to refund anybody, also I never take a order that I was not sure I can do it.
    I told him that I will refund his 50$ after I get my money back, but still refuse to refund me and says that I should wait for paypal to get them back. I didn't buy anything from Paypal, why wait after Paypal???

    He is asking me to wait untill 15.08 to get my money back???
    Maybe I will use that 50$ for interest

    I could do that??? What are you guys thinking???
     
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    Why don't you do the right thing and enter the accurate info into the dispute - that you did not provide the service that the buyer paid for and should receive a 100% refund"?
     
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    just get your refund...and provided you get it, give him back
    his 50$ because if you dont..then whos the scammer then..
     
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    if you refund $50 in paypal, then paypal will refund rest $90. But if you send payment of $50, then paypal will refund $140.
     
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    I will refund his 50$ after I get my money from paypal
     
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    Sounds like a bad business decision by websolutions85 but since he doesn't have the money anymore he sent $50 to do his best to resolve the issue, most likely what will happen is either the claim will get refused because it's a digital/non-tangible good/service, OR websolutions85 will not respond and the money will be auto-refunded to the buyer leaving websolutions85's account in a negative balance. Doesn't sound like websolutions85's intention was to scam the buyer, but instead he took a loss on this deal due to some internal business issues and doesn't have the cashflow to provide a refund to the buyer.
     
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    I think both of you want this settled. There are things to be learned from both sides. I just hope you end this amicably. :)
     
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    I just wanted my money back, but for almost 2 weeks he didn't answer to my messages and I had to took this action,
    this is the only way he talk to me about refunding my money.

    And I will give his money back after I get mines.
     
  18. Chrishiella

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    so how's going?
    did paypal decide in your favor?
     
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    Did you receive your refund and give him his $50 back?
     
  20. websolutions85

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    PayPal refund $140 please check the details Reversal (Unique Transaction ID # 292069040P208431D)
    See related https://www.paypal.com/ae/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_history-details&info=A_mYFrlGVdOPbCdEvWH3Hjh0p-dK5vL-_RwuF6uno756kWmN2wrPADJKlIm&history_cache=&search_trans_id=

    Also i attached picture please check all the members. But said to him refund me $50

    paypal reversal.jpg

    Thanks