Scammed by SpawneR

I came across a sales thread by @SpawneR - https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/hq-game-hack-proof-video-services-only-22-video.1067749/

He also had an offer of 5 proof videos for 100$ and I PM'd him that I wanted voice-over as well and he told me that it will be 135$ for 5 videos. I told him I only want 1 video for now since I will move on to other keywords once I am done with my first one.

I ordered on 2nd December and recieved my video on 5th December even though I should've recieved it on 4th December (24-48HR TAT) But that's okay, he told me that this was the first time he is making a video for my Game and that's why it took him so much time. So all is done.

I start ranking my videos for the first time and I get to #3 in a week. I am happy and I think I can get #1. I start doing some research in my niche to get some idea from people ranking above me. I see that there is a new competitor who posted the video 5 days after I posted mine and was ranking #1. I saw his video and it had no voice overs (Mine did have a voice over) I check out his channel just to get more ideas and I see 4 more Game Hack videos. At this time I think wow, I have found 4 new keywords that I can rank! I go on and click on one of the 4 videos and this time there is a voice over in this proof video. Immediately I recognise that this voice is of SpawneR since his accent can easily be distinguished. At first I thought that my competitor might just be from BHW and was a client of SpawneR. I send him a polite PM asking how this happened. After I send him the PM, I look more into it.

I saw his sample video that he sent to me initially in PM -
I look at it and then look at my competitor's video. Both have the same way of writing the BIO.

Then here is when I knew it was SpawneR who was my new competition.


This is how he shared his link in his SAMPLE VIDEO -

This is how my competitor shared it - (Links and Account name has been hidden to protect his other videos and my niche as well)

After this, I checked his WHOIs for his domains this is where there is no doubt that it is SpawneR who stole my keywords.

Site 1 - (Generator of my Competitor who was #1) (Domain hidden for privacy and to protect the niche) Admin can confirm that this is the domain of my competitor below.

Site 2 - Site that SpawneR linked in one of his SAMPLE videos

Site 3 - Another one of Spawners site that he linked in his SAMPLE Videos

You can clearly tell that all 3 sites, including the one owned by my new competitor is owned by SpawneR.

This proves that he stole my keyword after I used his service. I won't be surprised if he did the same with many other BHW members. I know my keyword had low competiton and thats why a newbie like me was able to rank at #3. I spent 80$ on that keyword (Bought from @BeastMoney) and SpawneR just stole it.

I think that every potential client of his should know what shady things SpawneR does. Some people have already PM'd me if this was true, this shitlist will hopefully save your money and your niche too.

I need a full refund of my 135$ that I sent to SpawneR and I also wish that BHW takes serious action against such malicious activity.

TLDR: I ordered game hack proof video from Spawner and gave him my no competition keyword and he sent me the video and also stole my keyword and became my main competitor.

Shitlist Request Approved

@SpawneR has been notified he has 48 hours to respond to this post.

PS. Reminder to all who have current issues, keep it PROFESSIONAL. No name calling or other insults.

Reminder to everyone else:

Shit list rule #4:
If you are not directly related to the situation, or are not offering information directly related to the situation: do not post in the thread

First of all, this is how you politely asked how your niche have a new competitor with my videos.



You didn't even wanted to wait for my answer on previous message where all of it could be resolved but anyways, you started this so let's go

Friend you lost your money!

You paid 80$ for keyword with those metrics?



Wasted money on it, next time go to https://www.appannie.com/en/apps/google-play/top/united-states/game/ and search for better niche instead of paying 80$ + 30$ = 110$ (for kw and video) which will take you with this keyword around 3 years to return investment

Your competitor isn't me

Let's see the OGads ID for your competitor, it says 119816

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Let's go for pixel gun:



And for vbucks gen:

Oh shit that is the same person right? And guess what? That person isn't me bro! Because my ID is:



And you can ask Ben for it

The person you think is me is actually my referral and that's the reason why some of his niches are hosted on the same host as mine, because I help people with creating LP's as same you asked me in PM to create LP for you also And here is the proof that he is my referral!



And now you're like, OH YOU GAVE HIM MY NICHE!

Really? Dude made 35k in 4 months and I would give him niche with 140 monthly searches? Dude created it himself, didn't even asked me if it's good niche or not since I do not mentor nor anything, i just create videos.

Why is all of this stupid?
In this field, in this method, competition is HIGH, there is like tons of fake hack proof videos for almost any game. And everytime some of my customers see another competitor with my videos (i sold a lot of proofs here) he should open shitlist? I go around and sell keywords what?



You can see how I respond on questions from customers? RDR2 & Fortnite are right now hype games even birds knows about fake hack videos for them, but for other small mobile games I'm never strict!

Refund policy



So there are no refunds, I can make you 4 more videos, but refund nope... but Anyways you already opened PayPal dispute, another way of huge disrespect towards me as a seller.

Conclusion


Does SpawneR steal keywords from you guys? No, because in this game you already have huge competition for almost any niche. You can find niches here https://www.appannie.com/en/apps/google-play/top/united-states/game/ & https://thinkgaming.com/app-sales-data/ & https://play.google.com/store/apps/collection/topgrossing?hl=en and you don't need to pay 80$ for keywords as an OP.

Most of the videos I create are well known games (Fortnite,RDR2, Robux) and there is like tons of my videos in those niches, so all of them should report me?

OP, you're just mad because someone outranked something you paid for (you paid 80$ for that low keyword to other member, not to me!). If you were smart you would ask me for some tips where to buy views, how to rank better since I create tons of videos I know some things for sure!

You broke my Refund policy and opened dispute.

You used bad language against me.

Btw the voice isn't mine, one of my workers

I should not need to repost this, however;

Shit list rule #4:
If you are not directly related to the situation, or are not offering information directly related to the situation: do not post in the thread

SpawneR said:

Btw the voice isn't mine, one of my workers

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I removed the first image as it revealed the keyword !

MisterF said:

I removed the first image as it revealed the keyword !

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And when he reveals others? Example pixelgun, it's okay?

You really cherry picked your replies.

First of all, this was my first message to you when I suspicious.

Second - This is my main keyword that you stole.


Its a 22k search keyword for which I am ranking at #3 without even knowing how to rank properly on youtube. Sums up how easy it was to rank for it. So don't tell me that I was stupid to buy a 140 search keyword. It is over 30k including all the other versions of this keyword. You picked 1 and said its 140 searches.

Second,

Its funny how everything is hosted on your end and then you make up that you have a friend that is ranking for it and he is your referral. Dude, anyone can open another account through a second PC or Laptop on OGAds and set up a new locker. You having him as a referral is just shadier.

You actually try to hide your shady business by stealing keywords and hosting it on a different OGads accounts. It's easy to do that. It's clear you have been doing this for a while, many of your clients probably don't even know you stole their keywords.

Its funny how everything in your WhoIS was across all domains and you state "I host his LP on my hosting" dude bullshit. It's your own hosting, your own LP and your own account. You forgot to clear that track and you have been caught.

30k+ searches a month keyword will get you more than 20-30$ a day. So stop with "what will I do with 140 searches keyword"it's not 140 and it's actually a great keyword and thats the reason you stole it.

SpawneR said:

OP, you're just mad because someone outranked something you paid for (you paid 80$ for that low keyword to
other member, not to me!). If you were smart you would ask me for some tips where to buy views, how to rank better since I create tons of videos I know some things for sure

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Nah dude, I am mad because sellers like you exists. Outranking has never been something that triggers me, I have outranked and been outranked tons of time on Google. It's more of a learning curve. But having someone steal something like that? nah dude, I aint letting that go.

@Admins, I don't think any of the proofs that SpawneR gave actually tells that he is innocent, he is just trying to cover up his shady business.

SpawneR said:

And when he reveals others? Example pixelgun, it's okay?

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Dude, you send those as SAMPLES to everyone on your thread, you reveal it yourself. Thats why I posted it and hide every other video from your account so that I don't reveal any niche.

Okay, let's contact Ben so he can check if me and the ID I said my referral is are the same person (me)?

Your keyword doesn't have 22k searches mate, send me the real screenshot of that keyword with 22k searches.

I will contact my referral, he is not the member of this forum, to send me the earnings of your niche, if he agree to it I will post it and show you how bad the niche you paid for is. I can even rank for main keyword on google for your niche under 30$ Web 2.0 btw

None of your screens shows that I stole something to benefit myself? I would steal your KW and give it to my referral then get those 5% commision and profit? Really?

And yes, your first message was that, and right after it you started calling me "cunt" & "thief" for basically no reason. You didn't even waited for my response (some people sleep).

And no it's not my own hosting, it's BlueAngelHosting my god.... You're really amateur dude

SpawneR said:

And no it's not my own hosting, it's BlueAngelHosting my god.... You're really amateur dude

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So you and your referral are using the same hosting and the same IP?

As I stated above, I help my referrals getting LP's done and even in some cases I give them space on my hosting as part of referral, if they are doing great (like this one) it's kinda nice extra service from me. I can contact other customers where I offered to create LP for them and host if they do not want it, since most of them use CPAbuild unresponsive LP's

MisterF said:

So you and your referral are using the same hosting and the same IP?

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I don't have 901 domains for sure, so the hosting puts numbers of clients on the same IP I guess since I'm not into Hosting knowledge

You guys would both make it a lot easier on @MisterF if you left the emotion out of things and just let the facts speak... he was never Mayor of Cincinnati and is not Jerry Springer.

SpawneR said:

Okay, let's contact Ben so he can check if me and the ID I said my referral is are the same person (me)?

Your keyword doesn't have 22k searches mate, send me the real screenshot of that keyword with 22k searches.

I will contact my referral, he is not the member of this forum, to send me the earnings of your niche, if he agrees to it I will post it and show you how bad the niche you paid for is. I can even rank for main keyword on google for your niche under 30$ Web 2.0 btw

None of your screens shows that I stole something to benefit myself? I would steal your KW and give it to my referral then get those 5% commision and profit? Really?

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My keywords do have 22k+ searches and admins will confirm it. Your whole argument is that my keyword is shit and isn't profitable and what will you do with 5% commision earning.

No. It's a 22k search keyword. It's your second account. You get 100% from it. That shit is very profitable and that's why you stole it.

BassTrackerBoats said:

You guys would both make it a lot easier on @MisterF if you left the emotion out of things and just let the facts speak... he was never Mayor of Cincinnati and is not Jerry Springer.

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I'm open to put any evidence here, even want to call Ben to confirm my account isn't doubled or anything similar!

SpawneR said:

I'm open to put any evidence here, even want to call Ben to confirm my account isn't doubled or anything similar!

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Just do it without all the emotion; @MisterF does not deserve to have to weed through all that to get things cleared up.

I've used Keysearch here for these keyword results;



The third KW is as @SpawneR mentions showing 140.

The other 2 are from @xRAYPEST which he submitted for this SL.

@xRAYPEST , please PM me the the YT channel of the competitor please.

I am putting this on hold and closing comments while I investigate further.

OK

I'm not happy with how this came about and played out.
@SpawneR , it's fine saying you didn't use these keywords, however your business partner did which I find unethical and disgraceful.
The ids shown are yours and your business partners, which is unacceptable.

Due to these actions, @xRAYPEST will recieve from you a full refund before 31st December 2018, WITHOUT FAIL!


I hope that there's nobody else out there who you have done this to.

Full refund sent (EVEN IT'S AGAINST BST POLICY)



Now I asked partner for locker insights for last 30 DAYS for this niche and here is the earnings



And you guys still think that I would steal that niche for 5% referral commision? Do you really think that I would do such a stupid business decision?

@BassTrackerBoats knows me well as one honest guy from previous conversation. Many members here knows me for that, even there is loke 100s of them I helped with IG+CPA even YT+CPA, and many of my tutorial threads across the BHW.

I still want to know DOES MY PARTNER KEYWORD MATCHES THAT 22K KEYWORD STATED ABOVE! @MisterF

And also, I will write a long ass tutorial on how to find good niche for YT+CPA method, BECAUSE this is not affiliate, this is not dropshipping, in this method people steal from each other and outrank each others, it's the part of the game. But I never received any PROOF that I gave that niche (as I stated above why would i do such thing for such a low kw) to partner.

You ruined my reputation with this, ruined my sales thread, for something that isn't clear, for keyword with 140 monthly search, and for keyword that doesn't bring money.

SpawneR said:

Full refund sent (EVEN IT'S AGAINST BST POLICY)

Now I asked partner for locker insights for last 30 DAYS for this niche and here is the earnings

And you guys still think that I would steal that niche for 5% referral commision? Do you really think that I would do such a stupid business decision?

@BassTrackerBoats knows me well as one honest guy from previous conversation. Many members here knows me for that, even there is loke 100s of them I helped with IG+CPA even YT+CPA, and many of my tutorial threads across the BHW.

I still want to know DOES MY PARTNER KEYWORD MATCHES THAT 22K KEYWORD STATED ABOVE! @MisterF

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Hopefully @xRAYPEST will confirm the refund ASAP.

BST Refund policies go out of the window in cases like this. This applies to any service where confidentail information is shared, NDAs broken etc.

It's fine claiming you only have one affiliate ID, sadly you forgot to say the other was your business partners.

I'm not debating this any further, it's taken far too many hours already, so I wish you all a good Christmas and a prosperous 2019