Scammed by Mod BigBuddy $1500

linkooz said:

lol, PA, if we have to settle our issues, it will be done and on another note, why did you posted on this thread with BS.....if you really concerned about what we have to settle...

Please call your lawyer immediately PA, because you will need it. Yes, its been long time we met and willing to meet today and could you provide appointment for us? I guess you wont be pussy to meet us...because we really have the score to settle down.

Cigarates? lol, do you ever know BB does nt have the habit of smoking cigarates?

Yes, you took your furnitures, what about the carpets, blinds and staff you took with you...Did you paid for it?

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Like @t0mmy suggested please stop going back and forth. I'm not talking to you here anymore. Unfortunately I am not in town this weekend, So do not waste your time brooding over my posts today. I recommend you focus on resolving issues that the others have raised that involve money. We could meet on Monday if you are so keen.

Paranoid Android said:

Like @t0mmy suggested please stop going back and forth. I'm not talking to you here anymore. Unfortunately I am not in town this weekend, So do not waste your time brooding over my posts today. I recommend you focus on resolving issues that the others have raised that involve money. We could meet on Monday if you are so keen.

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sure PA, I sent you my contact details and really keen to meet you on monday . Yes, we really keen to meet you than resolving this issues, being our old office mate. Enjoy your weekend.

I guess my post is relevant here as I was sharing the office with Paranoid Android, BB and other guy from BHW.

BigBuddy came over to my cabin one day and dropped about INR 55000 (about to $1000 at that time) on the desk and told me he wanted a mailing server onto which he can load data and mail out to offers and make money automatically. I tried to explain to him that it was not that simple and mailing is not an automated money making system, lots of work goes into it. He told me to setup a server anyway. It was around the time when Pofeker passed away, and BigBuddy was speaking to him about offers on a network he had. I did setup a nice server for him, got the best IPs and the best tools and even used some nice clickers data, got the other guy to cook up some spintaxes and mailed out to them. We received 1000s of clicks but 0 conversions. He acted so upset and told me I let him down. I just paid him back and took the loss and I never bothered to check why the offers never converted.

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AFAIK, It was a JV between you and BB, He paid the money to setup the servers and to buy the email list which you did and the campaign didn't work well for you guys. So you promised him to return the money by selling the email list to others. I don't think he complained about the failure nor did you return the money back to him.

A few months later they decided to switch office space which I was against as I liked the space that I had picked and had been using for quite a while. He threw some suggestive threats my way in the lines of how he was important and how not following him to the new office could harm my reputation on the forum etc.

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That's some serious drama but with a lot of loopholes. It's only laughable that a grown ass man like you was tricked into following someone to a new office just because a forum account was at stake? Seriously?

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qrazy said:

I guess my post is relevant here as I was sharing the office with Paranoid Android, BB and other guy from BHW.



AFAIK, It was a JV between you and BB, He paid the money to setup the servers and to buy the email list which you did and the campaign didn't work well for you guys. So you promised him to return the money by selling the email list to others. I don't think he complained about the failure nor did you return the money back to him.



That's some serious drama but with a lot of loopholes. It's only laughable that a grown ass man like you was tricked into following someone to a new office just because a forum account was at stake? Seriously?

It might have been true if you were a pretty looking girl(or a ladyboy?) or you were extremely talented that you'd have brought hundreds and thousands of dollars to BB. But unfortunately neither was true. You projected as if you were abducted forcefully to a new place and treated like a sex slave.




I remember at least a couple of instances where you requested him to make you a mod here. Even I remember us applying for it when there was an announcement thread about it(mid of 2013?). Admins here would be able to cross check the records to see if that's true or not.

I am not sure what he would have got by FORCEFULLY making you a Jr.Exec or even a mod when he's already an Super moderator at that time. And if you think it's because of your email marketing skills? And knowing that you brought a whopping ZERO conversions from your email marketing skills wasn't so convincing either to do any of this favor.

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oh hey man, thought you were banned too.

I don't have to explain anything to you as you're not the person concerned. I delivered 1000s of clicks. Maybe the offer wasn't right or maybe they were all partials, where people go through the signup and decide not to pull out their card. There was no way to check since the network owner passed away. I reimbursed the money and I got bank transfer records. You not knowing about it doesn't mean it didn't happen. As for the others, please don't speak about things you don't know, you used to come to the new place only to get boozed up.

I APPLIED for a mod position and so did you when applications were INVITED, so did a lot of others. I didn't go around asking anyone to make me a mod.

Don't call me a ladyboy mate don't make personal attacks. I never mentioned your name or the other guy's name anywhere. I'd like to ask you to stay out of this.

I got nothing more to say on this thread unless someone with authority asks me to address something in specific.

Ok, this has got out of hand so I'm closing the thread for a day or two while I sort through all of this.

If anyone has got anything specific they want to address, please send me a PM. In the meantime, there are far too many opinion posts on here so I'll contact the concerned parties, get more info and clean it up to be reopened in a couple of days.

@linkooz - if you're in touch with BigBuddy and speaking on his behalf can you please PM me so I can check you're doing so with his full knowledge and agreement?

Ok, thread's been tidied and is reopened now. As a reminder, if you are not DIRECTLY involved in the situation, do not post here otherwise they'll be removed and you may get an infraction.

Shit list rule #4:
If you are not directly related to the situation, or are not offering information directly related to the situation: do not post in the thread.

I bought BB's method titled 'AzonCash' for $500 on 9'th of April. Considering there were prerequisites (having an Amazon Associates account and 50onred), it took me a few weeks to set it up. I tested the method for a month, and spent another $500 (the minimum on 50onred) driving traffic. I didn't break even, so I decided to ask for some form of a refund via BHW:

1.) https://i.gyazo.com/7b4e300f04fb2e1cbb63dd33810dd1fc.png

After explaining my situation, BB asked me to give access to my 50onred and Amazon accounts, claiming that they would help to achieve a positive ROI - I wasn't comfortable with that, besides I've spent $1k on the method already, which is a large sum of money for me; I've explained the things, and he was okay with that:

2.) https://s11.postimg.org/4llont25v/image.jpg

This went back and forth for over 1.5 months, mostly just me waiting for the reply. This was the last message I received from him:

3.) https://s11.postimg.org/d5tsclkqb/image.jpg

Considering the fact that the method guaranteed a steady daily ROI, I was not able to bring in the guaranteed $100/day (as it was falsely stated in his sales clauses), despite my fastidious attempts. This is not the only reason why I'm eligible for a refund (there are other numerous negative replies that the method is faulty) - besides, BB agreed to it himself - nobody twisted his tongue.

Update:

Have had an email from BigBuddy saying that he'll be back to respond to the issues on 15th December. I'll go through the thread to collate which members are waiting for a response and the amount they've said is outstanding.

I'd like to keep on topic - no more opinion posts or accusations please. If you have an outstanding order or sum that you want to resolve, please post it here so I can confirm what we're dealing with - any other comments will be deleted. This will not turn into a witch hunt - it will be looked at fairly so we can get it sorted out for the people involved.

As of yet, I haven't had a response. I'll post back tomorrow with an update on the situation

Update: I haven't heard from BigBuddy directly. His brother has been in contact with me but I have not had a satisfactory response in regards to the situation.

I asked people to post here to confirm their information and the outstanding amount. No-one has done so. Some members that contacted me outside the forum because they did not want to post on the thread have now withdrawn their complaints.

At first, I was contacted by several people but now it seems like there's no-one willing to continue with the shitlist thread and I have not been given a good reason for this.

I want to make sure everyone has a chance to respond to this. If anyone wants to contact me privately, please do so via PM and this will be in confidence.

So for a few days while I find out what's going on, I will close this shitlist thread. This has dragged on for too long now and needs to be resolved. If I don't hear anything from anyone, I will make a decision on this next week and update the thread.

Ok, this will be my last update on the thread before a final decision is made.

The situation has dragged on far too long now. One way or another, if there is no resolution by the end of this month I will make a final decision and information on the situation will be made public here in the first week of January.

Personally, we'd have liked this to be carried out openly and transparently so that members were aware of what's happened. Unfortunately, many of the people involved have requested their details or anything identifying them be kept private. Most of the information they've provided makes it easy for the other parties to identify them so I have to respect this.

I have not heard from Big Buddy directly since a message last month promising he would be in touch by the 15th December. I was then contacted by people saying they represent BigBuddy with his full knowledge and consent and I've asked them to give me proof of this before continuing which, as yet, I have not received.

However, some of the people involved were contacted directly and promised refunds that should clear in the next week. As a result they have asked me to keep the thread open for a little while longer.

I am not happy that the earlier deadlines were missed. I've agreed to keep this open for a little while longer but I'm not going to accept any further delays or sliding timescales. If there is no acceptable progress or contact made to get this resolved by December 31st, BigBuddy will be banned.

I am aware that there are other members on this forum who have benefited from the ventures I've received complaints about. This is now being actively investigated. Anyone involved in providing a service or venture raised as part of this shitlist thread is equally responsible for any outstanding money or services owed. They will be contacted and asked to contribute towards the outstanding amounts or face the same consequences.

After lots of communication with people involved who provided a great deal of evidence and information, BigBuddy has not fulfilled any of the payments he promised to his buyers or creditors and has now been permanently banned.

I was messaged by Linkooz who told us he was speaking on behalf of BigBuddy but we were unable to verify that he was speaking for BigBuddy with his knowledge. He'd also contacted many of the people who were owed money to promise them refunds but none of these refunds ever materialised. When I investigated Linkooz's account to see what had been promised, I saw that he had made serious threats to some members in regards to the situation with BigBuddy. As a result, he has also been permanently banned.

There's no evidence that BigBuddy meant to act dishonestly at first but he was given every opportunity to explain himself and resolve the situation which was ignored. It's now clear he owes several members a large amount of money and has no intention of settling it for the people who have been left with big debts.

This has been a shock to all of the mod and admin team on the forum who have known BigBuddy for a while and we're very disappointed in this result.

I know that other members on the forum were acting with BigBuddy in some of these ventures and have made similar promises or have sent abusive messages on his behalf. I am continuing to investigate this and they will be dealt with once I have enough evidence to do so. If anyone has any new information about this, please PM me and we'll look into it.