scammed by Gosocials

His profile https://www.blackhatworld.com/members/gosocials.829298/
I brought 100 gmail accounts from gosocials. First i checked the accounts and got some disabled accounts and some asking phone verification. After that all accounts got disabled. I ask him to replace first he is agreed to replace some bad accounts but after all accounts got disabled he won't do replacement and saying 48 hours we don't replace.

I am also seller and i know google very well. Google caught him and disabled all accounts within 2-3 days and he also know that thing but he won't replace accounts and showing that his policy only covers 48 hours only.

These are the conversation between us. First of all you need to understand some times google ban accounts after 2-3 days.
If he give only 48 hours warranty and accounts got ban after 48 hours then who's fault.

He deliver me accounts 28 April Saturday Next day i didn't checked the accounts due to Sunday.
We made some previous deal so i trust his accounts so didn't checked under 48 hours. I checked the accounts on Tuesday and got some accounts bad so i inform him. After i checked some more random accounts and they got disabled. Then i checked all accounts and not single accounts is good.

I will take my case back if gosocials give some gmail accounts (Not Mine) to mod which are created on 28 April. I am pretty sure his all accounts got disabled which are created on 28 April because its mass ban by google.

Shitlist Request Approved

@Gosocials has been notified he has 48 hours to respond to this post.

@MisterF and I will both me mediating this.

PS. Reminder to all who have current issues, keep it PROFESSIONAL. No name calling or other insults.

I don't have a lot of expectations here as the accused has not been on BHW for months.

Reminder to everyone else:

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If you are not directly related to the situation, or are not offering information directly related to the situation: do not post in the thread.

I purchased 20 Gmail PVA, 10 Yahoo accounts, and 10 Twitter accounts from @Gosocials near the end of February. I logged into a few of the Gmail accounts without any issues, but didn't want to risk logging into all 20, even with NordVPN. So I logged into only three. I was going to use them over the course of a few months anyway.

Magically, just a touch over 48 hours later all three of the accounts were suspended. Not the "please phone verify" suspended, but plain out banned. I didn't even know that was possible with Gmail accounts. Hell, I've run e-whoring bots and autoresponder spam all through Gmail accounts with no issues whatsoever.

At that point, it hadn't been much money, and I thought it was my fault, and saw the 48 hours had passed, so I chalked it up to some bad spending and went with another provider on here that got me what I needed.

I just tried logging into a fourth account (for the first time). I had to provide the recovery email address, and as soon as I did this the email was suspended: "It looked like this account was being used in a way that violated Google’s policies."

As stated, there are 10 Yahoo accounts. I care so little about that that I'm not going to even bother trying to log into one. However, I just tried logging into three of the Twitter accounts. All three are suspended: "Your account (@[USERNAME]) is currently suspended. For more information, please visit Suspended Accounts."

I'll happily hand the login information over to the mods to verify for themselves.

@Gosocials if you plan to provide a refund for these accounts, I'd rather you directly donate the $30 I spent on these garbage accounts to Little Pink Houses of Hope instead: https://www.littlepink.org/make-a-donation/. Thanks.

Hello,

Refund or Replacement is a not matter for us. Because we are focusing only customer satisfaction. Almost we are serving more than 3 years on our forum.

All orders we care about customer fulfillment only.

Yeah google accounts are very difficult sometimes it happened so we ll give refund or replace to customer but this transaction why we not support means because @REAL EMAIL ID also one of the seller in our forum he also know about everything.

We have some doubts about @REAL EMAIL ID last transactions like he bought more times using non refundable transaction. In last few transaction made by paypal and this transaction is bulk purchase and said problem. So we felt may be he trying to scam or degrade my name on BHW .We faced lot problem like this.
That's why I contacted to Mr. @BassTrackerBoats two day before I told everything.

Whatever its He only knowing the Truth.

We accept Full refund or Partial refund. Let me know.

@Sherb Thanks for your information. Almost 3 moths gone you didn't inform us about this problem. this is not a our fault . If you have problem means contact us we ll always here. Before you told that problem we ll check and solve it. We are not scam anyone.

Please understand we also human being sometime this kind problem happen.
Please why we are saying use all accounts before 48 hours most of the accounts after creation without any activities means they track and block,that's why we informing everyone please just login it on your proxy or system make history they never block. but most of the people not understand after few days they came saying like this but we accept and solve it.

We have some doubts about @REAL EMAIL ID last transactions like he bought more times using non refundable transaction. In last few transaction made by paypal and this transaction is bulk purchase and said problem. So we felt may be he trying to scam or degrade my name on BHW .We faced lot problem like this.
That's why I contacted to Mr. @BassTrackerBoats two day before I told everything.

Whatever its He only knowing the Truth.

We accept Full refund or Partial refund. Let me know.[/QUOTE]

As i said we have previous deals i trusted you so I didn't check instant also due to Sunday. I ordered previous 200 accounts and payment was made wire transfer if I wanna scam you then i will try on previous order. Previously you charged 3100 INR for 100 accounts. This time you raise the price so I pay via PayPal. I am not trying to scam anyone in my life and I am not here to degrade your reputation.
I am also seller and I also face same issue previously but it's not clients fault. It's mass ban by Google and we replace the accounts.

@BassTrackerBoats I just wanna ask one question. If we have 48 hours policy and Google ban accounts after 48 hours. Even we checked all accounts before 48 hours. What we do? This problem only occur on new Gmail.

Gosocials said:

Please understand we also human being sometime this kind problem happen.
Please why we are saying use all accounts before 48 hours most of the accounts after creation without any activities means they track and block,that's why we informing everyone please just login it on your proxy or system make history they never block. but most of the people not understand after few days they came saying like this but we accept and solve it.

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I never know this kind of bullshit ever.
If you are saying is right then your this account not got disabled [email protected]
Because i login before 48 hours http://prntscr.com/jdz2pd 30 April 11:25 AM

REAL EMAIL ID said:

I never know this kind of bullshit ever.
If you are saying is right then your this account not got disabled [email protected]
Because i login before 48 hours http://prntscr.com/jdz2pd 30 April 11:25 AM

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Yeah fine bro already i told what is the problem we ll accept anything refund or replacement. please check it bro what i told. tell me which i need to give you ?

Gosocials said:

Yeah fine bro already i told what is the problem we ll accept anything refund or replacement. please check it bro what i told. tell me which i need to give you ?

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Please refund.

REAL EMAIL ID said:

Please refund.

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Give me the bank details i ll transfer it .

Gosocials said:

@Sherb Thanks for your information. Almost 3 moths gone you didn't inform us about this problem. this is not a our fault . If you have problem means contact us we ll always here. Before you told that problem we ll check and solve it. We are not scam anyone.

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I think both these buyers have asked for a full refund, with @Sherb asking his to be a charity donation. If you can confirm these both are done, that would be great.



Can I ask about this though; " Please why we are saying use all accounts before 48 hours"

At what point does the 48 hour limitation kick in?
Point of purchase, point of delivery, point of access or even point of creation by your team?

Buyers are from all different time zones, so as an example I buy 500 accounts off you at 3pm UK time, then leave the office for the weekend and don't open the report until 9am Monday..... The 48 hours has been and gone before I have even checked 1 account.

There needs to be a reasonable time scale here, because if what you're possibly stating that these run the risk of being flagged if not used within 48 hours, buyers need to be made aware of this as not everyone will b buying with the intention to use straight off, as I'd suggest was the case with Sherb.

Got the refund via wire transferred. I close the paypal case.

MisterF said:

I think both these buyers have asked for a full refund, with @Sherb asking his to be a charity donation. If you can confirm these both are done, that would be great.



Can I ask about this though; " Please why we are saying use all accounts before 48 hours"

At what point does the 48 hour limitation kick in?
Point of purchase, point of delivery, point of access or even point of creation by your team?

Buyers are from all different time zones, so as an example I buy 500 accounts off you at 3pm UK time, then leave the office for the weekend and don't open the report until 9am Monday..... The 48 hours has been and gone before I have even checked 1 account.

There needs to be a reasonable time scale here, because if what you're possibly stating that these run the risk of being flagged if not used within 48 hours, buyers need to be made aware of this as not everyone will b buying with the intention to use straight off, as I'd suggest was the case with Sherb.

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Yeah thanks for your question already i told clearly

Once we created accounts those are no activities

Example :
What is the purpose to create gmail if any site signup or app access but we didnt do anything as per customer request for fresh accounts but if after account created no activities on accounts means they can track it. That's why we are kicking please use before 48 hours.

Buyers time zones is not a matter if they informed we ll give them without any issues. if its weekend means we ll inform them please use it or no problem once check everything inform us we ll support. ( But we need customer respond or information )

@Sherb problem is he didn't inform anything please consider this. If he said we ll solve it. No one give 3 months warranty for any account .

Gosocials said:

Yeah thanks for your question already i told clearly

Once we created accounts those are no activities

Example :
What is the purpose to create gmail if any site signup or app access but we didnt do anything as per customer request for fresh accounts but if after account created no activities on accounts means they can track it. That's why we are kicking please use before 48 hours.

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I still don't agree with 48 hours login activity. We have accounts from 2016 and they never login because i forgot that sheet. I login some accounts previous month and they working fine.
Even didn't ask for recovery number or recovery email.

Gosocials said:

Yeah thanks for your question already i told clearly

Once we created accounts those are no activities

Example :
What is the purpose to create gmail if any site signup or app access but we didnt do anything as per customer request for fresh accounts but if after account created no activities on accounts means they can track it. That's why we are kicking please use before 48 hours.

Buyers time zones is not a matter if they informed we ll give them without any issues. if its weekend means we ll inform them please use it or no problem once check everything inform us we ll support. ( But we need customer respond or information )

@Sherb problem is he didn't inform anything please consider this. If he said we ll solve it. No one give 3 months warranty for any account .

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I in no way expected a refund. It's been over two months (not three months, two and a half). I simply provided a donation link for if you planned to actually do it. Most of your replies make zero sense in this thread regardless. However, what I was expecting was far more professionalism and better customer service than pushing all of the blame onto the buyers. Being a good seller is not something that should have a time limit.

Having a 48 hour clock that starts once the accounts are sent and then once expired is out of your hands is horrid business practices. How do you expect to grow your business when you are alienating repeat customers who might not feel like logging into 500 social media accounts individually over a 48 hour span to ensure they are working?

Your thread in the marketplace and your website are unclear as to when this 48 hours begins. This should be clarified, as it was my assumption that it was 48 hours after I actually used the accounts. I will give you the benefit of the doubt that all Yahoo accounts I purchased are working fine. However, here are the Twitter accounts I was provided:

https://twitter.com/PatAckley
https://twitter.com/Roxanne60108073
https://twitter.com/marisol_call
https://twitter.com/dansby_henry
https://twitter.com/CammieNelson7
https://twitter.com/DenisePete2
https://twitter.com/kathleen_gully
https://twitter.com/NeillyMoses
https://twitter.com/William44387461
https://twitter.com/MarkHay15872611

You can see that, except for the ninth one, all of them have been suspended. And please note, I did not log into any of these accounts until seeing this thread yesterday. As of right now, I have only tried logging into the first three. The other suspended accounts have been completely untouched by me in any way, shape or form.

And of course, as stated, all of the Gmail accounts I was provided were suspended shortly after use. I would put the timeframe at around 60 hours after first login. I'm aware that obtaining these accounts for use for many deep dive things is stupid, as Google will crack down and crack down hard. However, the purpose of these was going to be posting Google reviews and liking/commenting on videos, things that require a Google account to do. Luckily, I was able to get what I needed from another provider here.

Now it is time for me to raise another point, and a definite concern for anyone who has bought from you in the past, @Gosocials. It appears that Rediff Mail is used as the recovery email for your services. What is concerning to me is that, upon logging into the Rediff Mail account associated with one of the Twitter accounts to see if I received an account block email (I didn't), I noticed emails for recovery purposes for other services, such as:

Yahoo (and not one of the Yahoo accounts I purchased)
Facebook (I bought no Facebook accounts from you)
ProtonMail (I purchased no Proton mail accounts from you)

It's problematic that I could essentially try to log into someone else's account and use the Forgot Password feature to obtain accounts from all three of the above services, which were no doubt purchased from other people. My question to you is, are these Rediff Mail accounts linked to multiple social networks, regardless of who the purchaser is?

If so, is there a possibility that someone who also had access to the Rediff Mail accounts associated with my Twitter accounts purchased would have been able to try and recover the account via Rediff Mail, and thusly cause an account suspension due to suspicious activity?

It's clear to see that you have been providing a service here for a while. Yet, your customer service needs to be refined, your communication skills need a ton of work, and I dare say your sales thread might need another review if my results were anything like anybody else. Essentially, you are providing bulk accounts, and giving a 48 hour timer, after which you refuse to rectify any situation except under vague circumstances.

Not cool. And not a good way to do business.

Sherb said:

I in no way expected a refund. It's been over two months (not three months, two and a half). I simply provided a donation link for if you planned to actually do it. Most of your replies make zero sense in this thread regardless. However, what I was expecting was far more professionalism and better customer service than pushing all of the blame onto the buyers. Being a good seller is not something that should have a time limit.

Having a 48 hour clock that starts once the accounts are sent and then once expired is out of your hands is horrid business practices. How do you expect to grow your business when you are alienating repeat customers who might not feel like logging into 500 social media accounts individually over a 48 hour span to ensure they are working?

Your thread in the marketplace and your website are unclear as to when this 48 hours begins. This should be clarified, as it was my assumption that it was 48 hours after I actually used the accounts. I will give you the benefit of the doubt that all Yahoo accounts I purchased are working fine. However, here are the Twitter accounts I was provided:

https://twitter.com/PatAckley
https://twitter.com/Roxanne60108073
https://twitter.com/marisol_call
https://twitter.com/dansby_henry
https://twitter.com/CammieNelson7
https://twitter.com/DenisePete2
https://twitter.com/kathleen_gully
https://twitter.com/NeillyMoses
https://twitter.com/William44387461
https://twitter.com/MarkHay15872611

You can see that, except for the ninth one, all of them have been suspended. And please note, I did not log into any of these accounts until seeing this thread yesterday. As of right now, I have only tried logging into the first three. The other suspended accounts have been completely untouched by me in any way, shape or form.

And of course, as stated, all of the Gmail accounts I was provided were suspended shortly after use. I would put the timeframe at around 60 hours after first login. I'm aware that obtaining these accounts for use for many deep dive things is stupid, as Google will crack down and crack down hard. However, the purpose of these was going to be posting Google reviews and liking/commenting on videos, things that require a Google account to do. Luckily, I was able to get what I needed from another provider here.

Now it is time for me to raise another point, and a definite concern for anyone who has bought from you in the past, @Gosocials. It appears that Rediff Mail is used as the recovery email for your services. What is concerning to me is that, upon logging into the Rediff Mail account associated with one of the Twitter accounts to see if I received an account block email (I didn't), I noticed emails for recovery purposes for other services, such as:

Yahoo (and not one of the Yahoo accounts I purchased)
Facebook (I bought no Facebook accounts from you)
ProtonMail (I purchased no Proton mail accounts from you)

It's problematic that I could essentially try to log into someone else's account and use the Forgot Password feature to obtain accounts from all three of the above services, which were no doubt purchased from other people. My question to you is, are these Rediff Mail accounts linked to multiple social networks, regardless of who the purchaser is?

If so, is there a possibility that someone who also had access to the Rediff Mail accounts associated with my Twitter accounts purchased would have been able to try and recover the account via Rediff Mail, and thusly cause an account suspension due to suspicious activity?

It's clear to see that you have been providing a service here for a while. Yet, your customer service needs to be refined, your communication skills need a ton of work, and I dare say your sales thread might need another review if my results were anything like anybody else. Essentially, you are providing bulk accounts, and giving a 48 hour timer, after which you refuse to rectify any situation except under vague circumstances.

Not cool. And not a good way to do business.

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We ll change our mistakes and problems very soon.

48 hours warranty also we explained why we are doing like this.(after 48 hours also we ll support to customer mostly but we are only forcing please use that accounts ) And we ll extend very soon discussing with team as per customer request.

We are focusing customer satisfaction.

And May I know what we do for that problem do you need refund or not because please understand 2 and half months gone if you informed before we ll solve it. Any way please give me the best solution.

Gosocials said:

We ll change our mistakes and problems very soon.

48 hours warranty also we explained why we are doing like this.(after 48 hours also we ll support to customer mostly but we are only forcing please use that accounts ) And we ll extend very soon discussing with team as per customer request.

We are focusing customer satisfaction.

And May I know what we do for that problem do you need refund or not because please understand 2 and half months gone if you informed before we ll solve it. Any way please give me the best solution.

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No. Forget about the refund, please. I don't need a refund.

I would like a response on the second part, though, about the recovery email having access to accounts that I did not purchase, and the possibility of other people having access to the accounts I purchased through the recovery email. You did not respond regarding that, and to me that is the major issue at play here, and very well might have had something to do with the accounts being banned.

As far as your service sits in my eyes currently, there is nothing stopping you from creating accounts that are so low quality that they effectively stop working after 48 hours, and you can throw your hands up and say "not our problem".

Additionally, I, and surely the mods and your other buyers, would also appreciate some quantification on what "very soon" and "focusing customer satisfaction" mean.

"Very soon" could mean tomorrow. "Very soon" could also be measured in Sherb's-journey-thread time units, and take six months to change one web page.

Sherb said:

You can see that, except for the ninth one, all of them have been suspended. And please note, I did not log into any of these accounts until seeing this thread yesterday. As of right now, I have only tried logging into the first three. The other suspended accounts have been completely untouched by me in any way, shape or form.

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To add to this, I have experienced exactly the same.

I ordered a couple of Twitter accounts (after this SL), received both today and they were already suspended before even logging in:



If you login, you have to go through verification which is impossible without the original phone number used to verify the account:



@Gosocials Before sending out Twitter accounts, I would advise you check they work. You don't even need to login to them as Twitter will through out a restricted warning to anyone going to the user's public page of a flagged account.

Sherb said:

No. Forget about the refund, please. I don't need a refund.

I would like a response on the second part, though, about the recovery email having access to accounts that I did not purchase, and the possibility of other people having access to the accounts I purchased through the recovery email. You did not respond regarding that, and to me that is the major issue at play here, and very well might have had something to do with the accounts being banned.

As far as your service sits in my eyes currently, there is nothing stopping you from creating accounts that are so low quality that they effectively stop working after 48 hours, and you can throw your hands up and say "not our problem".

Additionally, I, and surely the mods and your other buyers, would also appreciate some quantification on what "very soon" and "focusing customer satisfaction" mean.

"Very soon" could mean tomorrow. "Very soon" could also be measured in Sherb's-journey-thread time units, and take six months to change one web page.

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Thanks for understand sherb.

Recovery mail and phone number are we have access if any problem always we are support it. Most of orders we gave to customer recovery mail password also. Because we know that problem. Sometimes customer need to access that recovery mail so give permission to access email and phone.

Example :- Instagram username customer changed it asking phone verification or email verification we support every time.

We have full access in recovery details thats why we inform to every customer please change password and recovery details. Its safe to customer and us.