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Scammed by - BIG VENTURES

Discussion in 'The Shit List' started by Hydranize, Jul 10, 2016.

  1. Hydranize

    Hydranize Registered Member

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    People can read this thread here for more details. http://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/me...or-members-for-his-scams.857803/#post-9061648

    This is a guy located in Pakistan making posts here about his call center and also looking for leads. People please be advised and aware that what this guy is looking for is someone located both within Canada and the US to handle his dirty work while he walks freely in another country by scamming people out of debt relief services that God knows if he really delivers or provides to the people he takes payment from.

    **YOU** on the other hand will need to process these payments on his behalf because he claims Pakistan has no virtual terminal of any kind for him to process these payments so you are that lucky guy that gets to do all of this. He will provide you with a hash website and business description for the this hash website in which you will use this information on payment processing websites as your business title and then go to town processing whatever payments he provides you in a spread sheet he updates daily.

    **YOU** will take your percentage **in my case it was 22%** and wire him the rest so he can live lavishly while you soon face jail time because of the card holders filing charge backs for unauthorized transactions. Oh and folks if you can somehow work this up on an optimized level you may just make enough to escape to migrate to another country as this guy can pump some huge sales out of his ass. I'm talking $50K USD to $100K USD a month so you just do your math and keep in mind that 22% out of those amounts is yours if you can somehow live freely to spend it all.

    I was a dumb fuck working for this guy for a couple weeks because of going through some hard times till shit hit the fan with his fraud and that's when I said fuck all of this and I must stop now before it costs me my freedom. Great part of everything is I managed to only make one wire transfer to him in the amount of roughly $1K USD which I will have to pay out of my pocket but the rest of all of those victims payments were refunded.

    so people do beware of member - *BIG VENTURES* as this is what he's running and trying to get more people from this forum to do his dirty work all while also promoting his call center and other hash shit he has to offer.
     
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  2. Hydranize

    Hydranize Registered Member

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    Complying with proof of what took place I'll start off by posting an area in our IM's on Skype pertaining to things being set off between me and member **BIG VENTURES** and his scheme. Following this IM is screen shots of everything. Also if needed or if member *BIG VENTURES* is to deny any wrong doing or any of what I am posting I can also provide screen shots of the actual IM's within Skype. **NOTE** Some information has been redacted to protect personal info.

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    [7/7/2016 3:56:04 AM] Hydra Nize: u there?
    [7/7/2016 4:12:12 AM] arthur finch: Yes I am here
    [7/7/2016 4:14:04 AM] arthur finch: Can I see the reply from stripe
    [7/7/2016 4:14:17 AM] arthur finch: I want a proof to show to my centre that merchant is closed
    [7/7/2016 4:14:18 AM] Hydra Nize: no reply yet
    [7/7/2016 4:14:24 AM] arthur finch: And money refund it self
    [7/7/2016 4:14:42 AM] Hydra Nize: im locked from stripe
    [7/7/2016 4:28:22 AM] Hydra Nize: u there?
    [7/7/2016 4:34:28 AM] Hydra Nize: are you there?
    [7/7/2016 4:34:44 AM] arthur finch: Yes
    [7/7/2016 4:34:49 AM] Hydra Nize: i heard back
    [7/7/2016 4:34:59 AM] Hydra Nize: just few minutes ago
    [7/7/2016 4:34:59 AM] arthur finch: Okay what is the reply
    [7/7/2016 4:35:10 AM] Hydra Nize: its one of the first charges
    [7/7/2016 4:35:14 AM] Hydra Nize: the first 2 we did
    [7/7/2016 4:35:16 AM] Hydra Nize: this is for
    [7/7/2016 4:35:20 AM] Hydra Nize: $395
    [7/7/2016 4:35:27 AM] Hydra Nize: we can provide proof of the charge
    [7/7/2016 4:35:30 AM] Hydra Nize: to fight back
    [7/7/2016 4:35:33 AM] Hydra Nize: but listen
    [7/7/2016 4:35:38 AM] Hydra Nize: there is more
    [7/7/2016 4:35:42 AM] Hydra Nize: because listen
    [7/7/2016 4:35:48 AM] arthur finch: Sent me the email
    [7/7/2016 4:35:51 AM] Hydra Nize: the lady who called me yesterday
    [7/7/2016 4:36:01 AM] arthur finch: Forward the email which u recieve from stripe
    [7/7/2016 4:36:02 AM] Hydra Nize: she is not the one that its mentioning in the email
    [7/7/2016 4:36:25 AM] Hydra Nize: gimme your email again
    [7/7/2016 4:36:35 AM] Hydra Nize: and did you hear what i said?
    [7/7/2016 4:36:40 AM] arthur finch: [email protected]
    [7/7/2016 4:36:55 AM] arthur finch: Forward the email so I can understand better what they need
    [7/7/2016 4:37:21 AM] Hydra Nize: DID YOU READ WHAT I SAID?
    [7/7/2016 4:37:37 AM] Hydra Nize: THE PERSON THAT DID THIS CHARGE BACK THERE IS MORE PEOPLE
    [7/7/2016 4:37:57 AM] Hydra Nize: SHE IS NOT THE ONLY ONE BUT STRIPE IS NOT GIVING US OR TELLING US THE OTHER PEOPLE
    [7/7/2016 4:38:02 AM] arthur finch: U said customer we charge 395 he file a CB
    [7/7/2016 4:38:13 AM] Hydra Nize: read previous messages
    [7/7/2016 4:38:22 AM] Hydra Nize: she is NOT the only one
    [7/7/2016 4:38:29 AM] Hydra Nize: the lady who called me yesterday
    [7/7/2016 4:38:35 AM] Hydra Nize: is NOT this lady
    [7/7/2016 4:38:50 AM] Hydra Nize: stripe is for now saying its only her
    [7/7/2016 4:38:53 AM] Hydra Nize: but there is more people
    [7/7/2016 4:39:27 AM] arthur finch: We're sorry to report that one of your customers has disputed a $395.00 charge (made through your Logo***.com account on June 24, 2016 (HST)) with his or her credit card company. The cardholder is claiming that the payment was one that they did not authorize.
    [7/7/2016 4:40:34 AM] Hydra Nize: you will need to give me proof of what you sold them for
    [7/7/2016 4:40:41 AM] Hydra Nize: and we have no way to upload audio
    [7/7/2016 4:40:47 AM] Hydra Nize: like the recorded phone call
    [7/7/2016 4:40:50 AM] Hydra Nize: we cannot upload
    [7/7/2016 4:40:55 AM] Hydra Nize: only documents i believe
    [7/7/2016 4:41:11 AM] arthur finch: Okay
    [7/7/2016 4:41:13 AM] arthur finch: No worries
    [7/7/2016 4:41:17 AM] arthur finch: I'll sent u today later
    [7/7/2016 4:41:45 AM] arthur finch: I'll reverse the CB
    [7/7/2016 4:41:47 AM] arthur finch: No worries
    [7/7/2016 4:41:56 AM] Hydra Nize: and we can't reverse it
    [7/7/2016 4:42:05 AM] Hydra Nize: after we provide the information
    [7/7/2016 4:42:10 AM] Hydra Nize: we will need to wait
    [7/7/2016 4:42:14 AM] Hydra Nize: and this lady is only one
    [7/7/2016 4:42:16 AM] Hydra Nize: there is more
    [7/7/2016 4:42:33 AM] Hydra Nize: it was a different lady that we processed payment for who called me yesterday
    [7/7/2016 4:42:59 AM] arthur finch: No worries thanks for info I'll reverse it
    [7/7/2016 4:43:13 AM] Hydra Nize: HOW THE HELL ARE YOU GOING TO REVERSE IT?
    [7/7/2016 4:43:18 AM] Hydra Nize: ITS ME
    [7/7/2016 4:43:20 AM] Hydra Nize: ITS ALL ME
    [7/7/2016 4:43:22 AM] Hydra Nize: I AM STUCK
    [7/7/2016 4:43:25 AM] Hydra Nize: I AM THE BAD PERSON
    [7/7/2016 4:43:32 AM] Hydra Nize: HOW DO YOU HAVE POWER TO REVERSE IT?
    [7/7/2016 4:43:48 AM] Hydra Nize: ONLY ME CAN REVERSE IT AND ONLY WAY FOR THAT TO HAPPEN IS IF I PROVIDE THE INFORMATION TO STRIPE
    [7/7/2016 4:45:11 AM] arthur finch: I'll call customer and she will reverse
    [7/7/2016 4:45:13 AM] arthur finch: Don't worry
    [7/7/2016 4:45:22 AM] arthur finch: Give me few hours it will reverse
    [7/7/2016 4:45:42 AM] arthur finch: I'll sent u the proof as well
    [7/7/2016 4:46:10 AM] arthur finch: Can u pls login to sheet and sent me the customer name who file a CB
    [7/7/2016 4:46:24 AM] arthur finch: I'll sent u her documents
    [7/7/2016 4:52:29 AM] Hydra Nize: Bonnie
    [7/7/2016 4:52:39 AM] Hydra Nize: Alford
    [7/7/2016 4:52:48 AM] Hydra Nize: 13** Sk*** Dr
    [7/7/2016 4:52:59 AM] Hydra Nize: 937-503-6***
    [7/7/2016 4:53:07 AM] arthur finch: Thanks
    [7/7/2016 4:57:31 AM] Hydra Nize: you have the sheet?
    [7/7/2016 4:57:47 AM] Hydra Nize: i THINK the other person was the first one on the list
    [7/7/2016 4:57:53 AM] Hydra Nize: but I do not know for sure
    [7/7/2016 4:58:12 AM] Hydra Nize: but if i am not mistaken it could have been the first person who called my home yesterday
    [7/7/2016 5:30:59 AM] arthur finch: I'll specially go to office today to resolve this issue
    [7/7/2016 5:46:43 AM] Hydra Nize: how?
    [7/7/2016 5:46:58 AM] Hydra Nize: the lady is saying the charge is unauthorized
    [7/7/2016 5:47:06 AM] Hydra Nize: then stripe is saying they want documents
    [7/7/2016 5:47:16 AM] Hydra Nize: the person will need to contact their bank
    [7/7/2016 5:47:26 AM] Hydra Nize: then their bank will need to contact stripe and deal with stripe
    [7/7/2016 5:47:32 AM] Hydra Nize: that is the only way out of this
    [7/7/2016 5:48:57 AM] arthur finch: What is your email
    [7/7/2016 5:49:07 AM] Hydra Nize: [email protected]******
    [7/7/2016 5:49:58 AM] arthur finch: Check email
    [7/7/2016 5:50:29 AM] arthur finch: Sent doc to stripe what they ask for
    [7/7/2016 5:50:43 AM] arthur finch: And from my side I'll call customer and ask her to withdraw the case
    [7/7/2016 5:51:11 AM] *** Missed call from arthur finch. ***
    [7/7/2016 5:51:18 AM] Hydra Nize: ARE YOU INSANE?
    [7/7/2016 5:51:24 AM] Hydra Nize: I AM NOT GIVING STRIPE THAT
    [7/7/2016 5:51:28 AM] Hydra Nize: THE DOCUMENT IS FRAUD
    [7/7/2016 5:51:32 AM] arthur finch: What u mean
    [7/7/2016 5:51:33 AM] Hydra Nize: YOU SOLD THEM DEBT RELIEF
    [7/7/2016 5:51:41 AM] Hydra Nize: THEY HAVE NO IDEA WHAT IS Logo***.comS
    [7/7/2016 5:51:47 AM] Hydra Nize: THEY ALSO DID NOT SIGN THAT
    [7/7/2016 5:51:48 AM] arthur finch: This is the authorization letter
    [7/7/2016 5:51:54 AM] Hydra Nize: NO YOU JUST MADE THAT
    [7/7/2016 5:51:59 AM] Hydra Nize: WE CANNOT GIVE THAT TO STRIPE
    [7/7/2016 5:52:00 AM] arthur finch: Sent this to stripe
    [7/7/2016 5:52:12 AM] Hydra Nize: NO I AM NOT SENDING THIS TO STRIPE
    [7/7/2016 5:52:14 AM] Hydra Nize: NO WAY
    [7/7/2016 5:52:19 AM] arthur finch: Then what u want
    [7/7/2016 5:52:21 AM] arthur finch: From me
    [7/7/2016 5:52:37 AM] Hydra Nize: you said you were going to handle this by talking to the customer so that they can talk to their bank
    [7/7/2016 5:52:57 AM] arthur finch: U keep saying sent the docs sent the docs
    [7/7/2016 5:53:19 AM] arthur finch: Ok let me call customer and resolve it
    [7/7/2016 5:54:40 AM] Hydra Nize: that does NOT resolve anything
    [7/7/2016 5:54:44 AM] Hydra Nize: that makes it worse
    [7/7/2016 5:55:04 AM] Hydra Nize: she will look at the document and know that Logo***.coms did not charge her
    [7/7/2016 5:55:11 AM] Hydra Nize: she did not buy anything from logo mansions
    [7/7/2016 5:55:15 AM] Hydra Nize: she bought debt relief
    [7/7/2016 6:23:16 AM] arthur finch: This doc is for stripe not for her
    [7/7/2016 6:23:23 AM] arthur finch: Stripe need proof
    [7/7/2016 6:23:29 AM] arthur finch: Customer is not asking for proof
    [7/7/2016 6:23:41 AM] arthur finch: Why don't u understand I am out side
    [7/7/2016 6:23:50 AM] arthur finch: And the money u already recieve
    [7/7/2016 6:24:07 AM] arthur finch: U didn't sent me that as well
    [7/7/2016 6:25:47 AM] Hydra Nize: THE PROOF THAT YOU WANT ME TO SEND TO STRIPE WILL BE SHOWN TO HER
    [7/7/2016 6:26:02 AM] Hydra Nize: STRIPE IS GOING TO PROVIDE THAT TO HER BANK AND HER BANK WILL PROVIDE IT TO HER FOR HER TO VERIFY
    [7/7/2016 6:26:08 AM] Hydra Nize: THAT IS FRAUD
    [7/7/2016 6:26:09 AM] arthur finch: No stripe won't show to her at first
    [7/7/2016 6:26:22 AM] arthur finch: Secondly customer file a CB bcs she don't remember the descriptor
    [7/7/2016 6:26:27 AM] arthur finch: Hold on let the CB reverse
    [7/7/2016 6:26:34 AM] Hydra Nize: I AM NOT STUPID STRIPE PROVIDES THE DOCUMENTS TO HER BANK AND HER BANK PROVIDES IT TO HER
    [7/7/2016 6:26:41 AM] Hydra Nize: I KNOW HOW THE ENTIRE PROCESS WORKS
    [7/7/2016 6:27:04 AM] Hydra Nize: THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A DESCRIPTOR EITHER ITS THE BUSINESS DESCRIPTION
    [7/7/2016 6:27:16 AM] Hydra Nize: AND THE Logo***.com DESCRIPTION IS NOT ACCURATE EITHER
    [7/7/2016 6:27:23 AM] Hydra Nize: ITS NOTHING RELATED TO DEBT RELIEF
    [7/7/2016 6:28:40 AM] Hydra Nize: and you will NOT get any kind of money because stripe has reversed the funds to secure the customers money so no one takes a lost
    [7/7/2016 6:29:02 AM] Hydra Nize: i myself will need to take a loss because stripe charges a charge back fee which I must pay
    [7/7/2016 6:29:25 AM] Hydra Nize: if they do this continuously I could be over $200 in fee's from stripe
    [7/7/2016 6:29:40 AM] Hydra Nize: i don't know how on earth you can even think of getting paid
    [7/7/2016 6:29:43 AM] Hydra Nize: that is crazy
    [7/7/2016 6:30:24 AM] Hydra Nize: the very first money that I sent you via WesternUnion I will have to pay for that out of my pocket
    [7/7/2016 6:31:08 AM] Hydra Nize: I have problems paying for my rent and trying to save the roof over my head so I don't become homeless and now this caused even more problems for me because I will need to pay these people
    [7/7/2016 6:31:20 AM] Hydra Nize: tell me are you going to give the money back that I sent you?
    [7/7/2016 6:31:24 AM] Hydra Nize: pretty sure not
    [7/7/2016 6:31:32 AM] Hydra Nize: so how are they going to get the money?
    [7/7/2016 6:31:36 AM] Hydra Nize: from thin air?
    [7/7/2016 6:32:41 AM] arthur finch: At first if the customer is file a CB it will reverse
    [7/7/2016 6:32:58 AM] Hydra Nize: you CANNOT reverse the CB
    [7/7/2016 6:33:05 AM] Hydra Nize: your proof is FRAUD
    [7/7/2016 6:33:14 AM] arthur finch: Customer will reverse it self
    [7/7/2016 6:33:17 AM] arthur finch: Wait boss
    [7/7/2016 6:33:25 AM] Hydra Nize: how will they reverse it themself?
    [7/7/2016 6:33:28 AM] Hydra Nize: HOW
    [7/7/2016 6:33:28 AM] arthur finch: She already got the services
    [7/7/2016 6:33:41 AM] arthur finch: Bcs she get the services already how come can she CB
    [7/7/2016 6:34:15 AM] Hydra Nize: i dunno why or how you are telling me this she filed a CB and you have nothing to fight with
    [7/7/2016 6:34:22 AM] Hydra Nize: the document you provided is fraud
    [7/7/2016 6:34:32 AM] Hydra Nize: she did not sign or authorize anything from logo***.com
    [7/7/2016 6:36:04 AM] arthur finch: Doc is real info is real only I change the company name
    [7/7/2016 6:36:33 AM] Hydra Nize: i can call the lady right now and ask her if she signed that document and she will say she did not
    [7/7/2016 6:37:09 AM] Hydra Nize: i can also call every single person on the sheet and ask them if they authorized a payment for any kind of service from logo***.com and they will say they did not
    [7/7/2016 6:37:17 AM] arthur finch: Either u can handle everything or either I can
    [7/7/2016 6:37:45 AM] Hydra Nize: you are not handling anything if you are giving me a fraud document to provide to stripe, this i will NOT do
    [7/7/2016 6:37:46 AM] arthur finch: Cust know debt relief not logo mansion
    [7/7/2016 6:38:17 AM] Hydra Nize: Cust know debt relief not logo mansion
    [7/7/2016 6:38:26 AM] Hydra Nize: Cust know debt relief not logo mansion
    [7/7/2016 6:38:26 AM] arthur finch: Yeah
    [7/7/2016 6:38:34 AM] arthur finch: Read my msgs correctly
    [7/7/2016 6:38:36 AM] Hydra Nize: do you understand what you just said?
    [7/7/2016 6:38:42 AM] arthur finch: They know debt relief
    [7/7/2016 6:38:53 AM] arthur finch: U already aware
    [7/7/2016 6:38:56 AM] arthur finch: Didn't u
    [7/7/2016 6:38:57 AM] Hydra Nize: the customer DOES NOT KNOW logo***.com they only know debt relief
    [7/7/2016 6:39:12 AM] arthur finch: Don't react like u don't know anything
    [7/7/2016 6:39:31 AM] Hydra Nize: because they don't know debt relief why did you make it like they signed Logo***.com document?
    [7/7/2016 6:39:36 AM] arthur finch: U know already merchant is on logo mansions not on debt relief
    [7/7/2016 6:39:55 AM] arthur finch: If u wanna make this so fucking hard which can't b resolve upt o u
    [7/7/2016 6:40:16 AM] arthur finch: Secondly if u think blame game work and u will get that money it's not correct
    [7/7/2016 6:40:24 AM] arthur finch: Soon customer will ask for his money
    [7/7/2016 6:40:26 AM] Hydra Nize: you said you would talk directly to the customer and handle this not give my a fraud document to provide to stripe
    [7/7/2016 6:40:55 AM] arthur finch: Read the old conversation
    [7/7/2016 6:40:56 AM] Hydra Nize: customer is not going to ask for their money because they are getting their money back froms tripe
    [7/7/2016 6:41:07 AM] Hydra Nize: stripe is getting the money back from debiting my account
    [7/7/2016 6:41:12 AM] Hydra Nize: so there is no worry there
    [7/7/2016 6:41:14 AM] arthur finch: I the beginning I told u we have proof customer authorization letter and audio
    [7/7/2016 6:41:25 AM] arthur finch: Now I sent u so u say this is not right
    [7/7/2016 6:41:52 AM] Hydra Nize: WRONG YOU HAVE PROOF OF AUDIO NOT AUTHORIZATION LETTER
    [7/7/2016 6:41:59 AM] Hydra Nize: GO READ THE PREVIOUS MESSAGE
    [7/7/2016 6:42:11 AM] Hydra Nize: YOU CLEARLY STATE AUDIO NO AUTHORIZATION LETTER
    [7/7/2016 6:42:13 AM] arthur finch: Read the chat at the beginning
    [7/7/2016 6:42:30 AM] arthur finch: Read the chat please
    [7/7/2016 6:42:30 AM] Hydra Nize: as I said I can call this lady right now and ask her if she signed this document and she will say no
    [7/7/2016 6:43:04 AM] arthur finch: If u say did u sign any letter for logo mansion yes she say no
    [7/7/2016 6:43:16 AM] arthur finch: Bt she will say yes if u say debt relief
    [7/7/2016 6:43:29 AM] Hydra Nize: ok where is the debt relief document?
    [7/7/2016 6:43:40 AM] Hydra Nize: where is the proof she signed the debt relief document?
    [7/7/2016 6:43:49 AM] Hydra Nize: are you going to make one also?
    [7/7/2016 6:43:58 AM] Hydra Nize: i can also have this lady verify the signature
    [7/7/2016 6:44:08 AM] Hydra Nize: she will say right off the bat its not her signature
    [7/7/2016 6:44:52 AM] Hydra Nize: i can also provide any law enforcement our entire Skype transcript and they will clearly see that all I did was process payments for something you created
    [7/7/2016 6:45:11 AM] Hydra Nize: they will also see where you mention the change of my information on the website
    [7/7/2016 6:45:30 AM] Hydra Nize: they will also see where you mention recieving money via wire transfer only
    [7/7/2016 6:45:52 AM] Hydra Nize: then they can easily get interpol involved to look into the malaysian bank account and who is the owner of it
    [7/7/2016 6:46:18 AM] Hydra Nize: if interpol gets involved they will go as far as to looking into which location the Western Union transfer went to in Pakistan
    [7/7/2016 6:46:31 AM] Hydra Nize: then grab video footage of who picked up the wire transfer
    [7/7/2016 6:46:50 AM] Hydra Nize: once interpol is involved it will not stop until the money trail is discovered
    [7/7/2016 6:47:33 AM] Hydra Nize: all I did was try to help and assist you in processing these payments and make a 22% share of each payment processed but the business was fraud on every level
    [7/7/2016 6:47:40 AM] Hydra Nize: the details is very clear
    [7/7/2016 6:47:52 AM] Hydra Nize: you sell debt relief via cold calling from leads
    [7/7/2016 6:48:07 AM] Hydra Nize: then have people located outside of your country process the payments
    [7/7/2016 6:48:26 AM] Hydra Nize: the line and excuse used is because Pakistan has not virtual terminal to process payments
    [7/7/2016 6:48:47 AM] Hydra Nize: if it comes down to interpol getting involved things will not be good at all
    [7/7/2016 6:49:01 AM] Hydra Nize: they will also see the connection from our screen share
    [7/7/2016 6:49:22 AM] Hydra Nize: both screen shares provide clear connection as to the location of where the other party was at the time of the screen share
    [7/7/2016 6:49:33 AM] Hydra Nize: the US Government and Interpol is not stupid
    [7/7/2016 6:49:52 AM] Hydra Nize: they will track down and get to the buttom of anything fraud related especially when it comes to large amounts of money
    [7/7/2016 6:50:05 AM] Hydra Nize: this involved the moving around of very large amounts of money
    [7/10/2016 2:04:08 AM] Hydra Nize: you have 48 hours to remove or change the information on Logo***.coms.com or I will be submitting all of your information to interpol including both WU and MG wire transfers.
    [7/10/2016 2:55:48 PM] arthur finch: ill do it today for sure ill remove your info bcs its not nocceserry for now
    [7/10/2016 2:55:58 PM] arthur finch: u get motivated and devmotivated very quickly
    [7/10/2016 2:56:20 PM] arthur finch: i though we will do a good business and i though u are a nice guy willing to make money
    [7/10/2016 2:56:54 PM] arthur finch: rest of the customers will surely going to file CB

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    **Screen Shots of the mentioned Activity Here - http://imgur.com/a/EC7b4**


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