Roulette hell

I play all number expect 4,21,19,15,32,0,26,35,12. So i get 1/4+(-2%) on stack when i win, so i need 4 wins in row to cover 1 lose. So when i get 90-100% ROI i run, and i start playing this system after i saw 4/6 last spins landed on numbers i dont play (4,21,19,15,32,0,26,35,12). You cant make big cash, but if you gain 4 in row withotu hole, run run run!

And variation is to have BIG WINNERS and RETURN WINNERS on numbers i play, so if you get lucky to ball land on your BIG WINNERS, you can cashout 90-100% ROI after 2 spins

hexalor said:

And the ball doesn't have memory. It doesn't matter what it lands on. If it lands on 19 100000000 in a row, there's still the same probability it'll land on 19 or any other number as before. When will people learn.

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In theory yes, in reality you want see that theory of chaos prevent such shit, so you can lose MILLIONS, you can win MILLIONS, you never know! Is edge on your side? No, but if you get lucky and stop playing after you hit magic line, you want lose at the end in that long run And i agree, there is no winning system for roullete, your edge is always in longer run in house hands, but if you get lucky in first few spins, run away and you will be + that day

Interesting comments. The system I was using is one I came up with. Pretty simple.
I look at the previous spins and look at the pattern, r b r bb rrr bbbb r bb rrrr
if the pattern is not r b r b r b r b r b I start to bet on the last color. I look for "blocks" of the same color in the spin history. So if the last spin was black, I bet 5 bucks on black. If I win, I bet on black again, and again and so on. If I loose, I double up the bet on that color. The first day, I would double up as much as I had, but on the second day I only doubled up to 40 bucks. Putting 160 bucks on one spin was too stressful for me, but I did it to stick to my testing. I basically go with the trend instead of against it. Ideally, I want the wheel to give me 20 blacks or twenty reds in a row. or both. When a 0 pops up, I let the wheel spin a few times without betting.
Problem is, sometimes the wheel will give you - r b r b 0 r b r b - which is your worst enemy. It was an experiment. Im not a gambler.

Next experiment: bacarrat.

Heheheh!

hexalor said:

What??

"the theory of chaos prevent such shit"? I don't know what you've been reading but chaos theory has nothing to do with probability.

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http://www.yiin.ca/chaos/content.htm

Back in the 90's in A.C. I played at the Claridge Casino. Started with only $100 bucks and walked away with $1800. Haven't played Roulette in a number of years though. You walk into a casino and think you have a system that can't fail only to walk out with nada. You see people sit there and all they do is play their favorite numbers. Birth dates, anniversaries etc. Not sure if you can do this in A.C. or Vegas anymore but if you asked, you can request a card to track the spins. Most tables have a tower with all previous winning numbers. What I used to do was jot down all the winning numbers and when you have 5 to 8 numbers that have hit 2 or more times I start playing them. Stay away from online casinos. I don't know if this is true but some say if you play roulette online make sure you clear your web cache after so many spins. This might be B.S though.

hexalor said:

I guess it doesn't really matter what I say. People will still think they're right and that roulette tables have memory. I give up. Simple concepts are obviously beyond the understanding of some of you people.

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It's okay Hex I understand what you're saying.

You're saying I can walk into a casino with some very basic strategy that I think I'm the only person in the world that has tried and am going to run the casino dry. Obviously if the ball lands on 7 it's PROBABLY not going to land on 7 AGAIN. The chances are much slimmer. duh.

oh... wait.

hexalor said:

You're using concepts you have absolutely NO understanding of here to try to prove to me that a roulette table has memory.

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No, i just want to say that probability to Roullete ball land on same number after already landed is probably different (i dont know how much but it is for me) than it was after first land (and so on...). Its not have nothing with memory, its just have with probability that is not 1/37 (not even in longest run you can imagine). In theory you can see that (its all random), but lets talk straight how much same number in row landing have you see, 3 times in a row is in my whole life longest run i ever saw, 3 times only... I TALK ABOUT ROULLETE ONLY, not coins.

What i want to say, its "RANDOM" but with so much combinations possible, you want see such "simple pattern" ever, like 10 same numbers in a row, you will see "chaos patterns" almost every time.

If you play roulette, forget playing on your too much "simple patterns" , it will eat $you$ alive

freefox said:

No, i just want to say that probability to Roullete ball land on same number after already landed is probably different (i dont know how much but it is for me) than it was after first land (and so on...). Its not have nothing with memory, its just have with probability that is not 1/37 (not even in longest run you can imagine). In theory you can see that (its all random), but lets talk straight how much same number in row landing have you see, 3 times in a row is in my whole life longest run i ever saw, 3 times only... I TALK ABOUT ROULLETE ONLY, not coins.

What i want to say, its "RANDOM" but with so much combinations possible, you want see such "simple pattern" ever, like 10 same numbers in a row, you will see "chaos patterns" almost every time.

If you play roulette, forget playing on your too much "simple patterns" , it will eat $you$ alive

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Ok my tone was sarcastic at first but now I just have to call you an idiot.

Just because the ball lands on a certain number once does not mean it has a lower chance of landing on that same number again the following time. That really is simple probability and I remember back in school the 3-4 retards in my class that simply could not understand that.

A ball has the exact same chance to land on a certain number every time. The chance never decreases and it's even dumber for you to say "at least for me" and you should be shunned by all 1st and 3rd world societies.

Another "strategy" that I have is to scatter $10 chips on 25 of the 36 spots.
Your spending 250 for a 360 return. I was playing in AC with a guy scattering 500-1k chips in the same manner (I'm not sure of his exact strategy) and he walked off with over 30k after loosing a few times.

emthree said:

Another "strategy" that I have is to scatter $10 chips on 25 of the 36 spots.
Your spending 250 for a 360 return. I was playing in AC with a guy scattering 500-1k chips in the same manner (I'm not sure of his exact strategy) and he walked off with over 30k after loosing a few times.

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Interesting. On the first day I won and lost it all again, there was a little chinese man sitting next to me doing something similar. He would start with 20 bucks, cover most of the board in various patterns and let it go. If he won, he would repeat the process, sometimes changing the pattern sometimes just adding more chips to the existing pattern. I watched him cash out 3 separate times between 600 and 800 bucks. I did watch him blow 170 +- bucks on a few spins that landed him nothing.
My point is, he would grow his winnings, not keep pumping cash onto the table as he was loosing. Was he ahead at the end of the day? Im pretty sure he was.
I agree that at the end of the day, the ball can land on red 20 times in a row or go back and forth from red to black for 80 spins. Who knows what the hell that ball is gonna do? It is all luck.
Thats not the point here. Some people do make money with roulette and other gambling games, I was just seeing what other people where doing and whether or not they were making bucks with their system, however strange it might be. Gambling is the one place we can share techniques without worrying about generating new competition.
So, start sharing your money making startegies! I know some of you are out there.

when your up more than double your investment - walk out. Don't be greedy.

Also roulette isn't the most fair game in the world. Putting probability aside, the casino's don't play fair. There are allegations that they can use shifting magnets to alter the course of the ball to break the probability.

INANIMATE OBJECTS DO NOT HAVE MEMORY

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... doink doink doink is the sound you get, nuff said!

hexalor said:

lol strategies. That's hilarious.

How can a strategy change the math of a ball spinning round a wheel?

That's like saying you have a strategy to predict if a coin will have more heads than tails.

MATH IS MATH. When are people going to learn. The only way to beat roulette is to use lasers to measure the speed of the ball and the speed of the wheel after it starts spinning. Even that is some very complex math and will only give you a region that it'll fall in.

People don't seem to get how basic probability works. They think that if the ball has landed on black the last 10 times there's a higher chance for it to land on red.

Why would there be? The ball has some sort of built-in memory that changes how it spins based on what it's landed on? lol.

Casinos love system. Why do you think they sell books about systems inside the casino.

Casino is 11% in the casino's favor. End of story. There never has been a system that will work and there NEVER WILL BE for some simple reason. YOU HAVE NO CONTROL OVER PLAY. The variables are all unknown physics variables.

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No offense but you're actually INCORRECT. There is such a thing known as TABLE BIAS and if you have the ability to track table bias, you can EASILY win in both the short and long run.

In fact, there are computers that you can use by hiding on your person to track the bias and make specific bets when it's time.

Combined with MONEY MANAGEMENT -- also MATH RELATED -- one can make a living at the wheel.

filmy

Each spin is independent of the last one, meaning even after 1,000 spins landing on black, theirs still a 50% that it will land on black for the 1,001 time.

Darren Brown does something like this (its on youtube, ill post the video), where he throws a quarter in the air, live on camera 10 times. He says that he's going to flip it 10 times, and they will all be heads.

He basically just flipped the coin so many times on camera that eventually he got 10 in a row.

Another principle is how an infinite amount of monkeys on an infinite amount of typewriters would eventually write the whole works of shakespear without error.

This works because even though 99.9999999999% of the time its does not work, every single letter combination has been used, thus one of them will have to be the full work of shakespear (techinically speaking, if its an infinite amount time, then shakespears work would be reproduced an infinite amount of times... i'm getting a little ahead of myself here)...

If you want to learn something, watch this (6 parts, but you get so into it you want to watch it )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQrOrBZdJig

Roulette is a ball spinning around a wheel...I would say wear your luckiest hat if you want to improve your odds

The only 'system' I know to get an edge while gambling is playing single-deck blackjack, and counting the cards. The problem with this, is that single deck tables attract people who are going to obviously count the cards, so you either have to linger a loooooong time, or even give some hands away, in order to not get sniffed out by the pit bosses.

Darn it, my lucky hat was lost in a bet.
I took the roulette sniper for a spin. Although interesting, I could not manage to stay afloat with it. I can't see how anyone can make consistent money with those kinds of tools. I've also looked at robots and all kinds of other gambling "aids".
Have you people seen this:

http://www.genuinewinner.com/roulettecomputers.html

They use to sell it for up to $100,000. But it looks like they dont anymore. They want partners or some shit. Heheh

Sign me up!

I lost $60 last night Was up then i kept goin haha.

Oh man, i love roulette! it's like crack to me.. basically what i do is play the 3rds if i'm feeling lucky. Usually with about $50 on each 3rd but if i feel like sitting at the table for awhile and shooting the shit with people, i'll play all over the board.

I've had so many swings with this game, you guys have no idea. This last cruise i went up about $1k playing numbers.. got cocky and put too much on black, ended up losing it all.. came back on the last day with $80 because i was bored and hit the 0 splits with $5 chips TWICE, hit my number (23) Twice! one time with a $5 chip and the other i had chips surrounding 23 like a landmine, and it hit.

needless to say, that last day payed for my entire cruise and everything i spent on the ship! Great game... but like someone said earlier, the odds are always the same.. nomatter how long it's been since something hit