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Ripoff Report De-indexing by legal process

Discussion in 'Online Reputation Management (ORM)' started by bobjohnson, Oct 15, 2015.

  1. bobjohnson

    bobjohnson Newbie

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    I have several clients with Ripoff Report, Pissed Consumer, and other issues that are not going away. Normal suppression campaigns have been successful, but not in completely removing RoR from the first page of search results. I have, on occasion, used very expensive lawyers to de-index these sites successfully. Unfortunately, their prices have gotten out of control. I hear that there may be more cost effective legal means to de-index these sites. Does anyone have any suggestions? Or know of any lawyers specializing in removal/ de-indexing that do not charge ridiculous fees.
     
  2. EatSleepSEO

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    It's too bad that ROR didn't stay de-indexed.

    I remember about a month or so ago they were de-indexed in Google for a couple of days but they came back.
     
  3. Alpha.

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    You realize ROR is a site that just makes money off people who want their "reports" deleted? Offer them money, it'll be cheaper than the lawyer... You wouldn't believe how many problems you can solve in the ORM world by shaking money at them.

    If you don't want to go that route, it's mostly easier to build up a solid foundation of links and shove ROR into the Page 4+ area.
     
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  4. jweb

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    Depends on what you consider to be ridiculous pricing. Done this several times but need to use lawyers. And I believe it's affordable but you can be the judge. PM if interested.
     
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  5. bobjohnson

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    jweb, I am new to BHW, so they won't let me PM until I hit 15 posts. Please reach out to me freelancewebguy yahoodotcom
     
  6. bobjohnson

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    I am curious if anyone has had success paying money directly to RoR? I am not inclined to pay them as I feel that it is extortion. From what I have heard, there is no guarantee that RoR will even remove the review regardless of how much you pay them.
     
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    I actually called the owner (Ed) once and was prepared to wire him $20k to remove one for a client. He would have nothing to do with it, threatened me etc. There isn't a way to do it through them, and their VIP deal is a joke. scam
     
  8. t0mmy

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    ROR and sites similar to it are a complete and utter joke. Why Google continues to allow them in their index is beyond me.

    We as marketers know that these sites are bullshit.. the majority of the time they are used by scum bag competitors that have not got the brains or balls to compete so they resort to low life tactics like ROR. Very rarely are these sites used for the purpose they where "originally" intended for.

    I've had to deal with them for clients many times and once for my company.. to this day I know exactly who left that ROR on us (it would shock you all if I revealed it here on BHW, never say never though) yet I did not retaliate with a ROR of my own about them. Why? Because I have balls and I don't play kiddie games, I believe if you want to really destroy or beat a competitor.. you do it the right way.

    Google needs to get their finger out their asses and rid their index of these pathetic sites.
     
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  9. resistosai111

    resistosai111 Power Member

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    do negative seo for the specific page and remove from the first page thats all. I mean when there is negative something about your client etc you just to create spam backlinks to that specific page and index these backlinks you will see effect it will be not on first page
     
  10. t0mmy

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    Yeah in a normal circumstance this may work... but good luck with that on ROR. This type of "neg seo" will not work on an authority site like ROR.. actually the effects tend to be the opposite, these sites flourish on links no matter the type.. so the pages will rise with these kind of spam assaults.

    The only way is to outrank them with other properties or pay to have them removed like mentioned already.
     
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  11. RuthSam

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    still if someone is googling XXX scam or XXX Fraud or XXX review it will pull up 1st page on google!!
     
  12. rabbitking

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    Basically the wrong type of parasite page. Meh anytime you are noticeable in business you will deal with punks
    who can't compete and don't have the balls to do anything about it. That applies online more than anything.

    See online you can be a respected big time business man when in reality you ain't jack shit. It's okay over time it comes out.
     
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  13. t0mmy

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    Yeah exactly.. ROR is a super parasite, actually it's a shame it can't be use positively (must ponder this some time).

    I especially like the last part of your comment.. you can only fool people for so long, even online!
     
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  14. Sherbert Hoover

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    I had a client get ROR removed through the legal process by submitting a DMCA takedown for defamatory content straight to Google. It took a month, but it disappeared.
     
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    Nice one. I'm not sure how favorable Google would be in my personal situation as it's an SEO company the ROR is about! But will keep this in mind for the future..
     
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    Definitely worth a shot. The total cost was around $600, and that was 100% legal fees.
     
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    I have recently been re-reading "Trust Me, I'm Lying: Confessions of a Media Manipulator" by Ryan Holiday and RoR seems like it could be ideal for some Media Manipulation.

    Eg: If you are in SEO then you could try to do this to get some Traffic/Press/Business for your legitimate site.
    1. Start a Fake SEO company website, make it look legit and a direct competitor to your own business, keep it running and let it age 6-9 months.
    2. Create at least 2/3 sock accounts on RoR
    3. After your fake SEO site has been running 6-9 months leave the most outlandish RoR about the fake company, make it crazy OTT
    4. On your real blog, write an article on the RoR about how you accidentally came across it and how shocked you are.
    5. With your second sock account write another RoR saying how you saw the company being mentioned in a blog (drop a link/mention to your real site) and carry on the outlandish claims.
    6. Do a follow up piece on your blog offering anybody who has received bad service from the fake company FREE SEO, state the reason you are doing it is because you are disgusted with the state of the industry and want people to see how a professional company operates etc etc bullshit bullshit
    7. Obviously nobody is going to claim the FREE SEO (you might get a few chancers but just sign them up to your service with a discount) but you can do a follow up piece on how you helped the sock accounts recover their site from the atrocious SEO provided by the fake company and how your new clients are over the moon at getting onto the first page and how they now rank in Serps etc.
    8. Bloggers and Industry sites are desperate for news and some of them will post any old crap, so slowly start to leak the story. Somebody is bound to pick up on it somewhere. You look like the good guy for helping a couple of small businesses.
    9. All the above is a joke, don't do it, you will probably shoot yourself in the foot.
    10. Seriously if you read this far and still think this is a good idea then be warned, I left a considerable chunk of the details that would actually get this method to work. This is a shady practice and almost as shady as RoR. If you really do decide to go through with it then be very careful. You don't want to become famous like Charles Floate.

    http://www.ripoffreport.com/ConsumersSayThankYou/WantToSueRipoffReport.aspx
    http://www.ripoffreport.com/ConsumersSayThankYou/FalseReport.aspx
     
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  19. Sherbert Hoover

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    Dang, that is ridiculously cunning and ingenious and very much blackhat and immoral. I love it.

    I'd suggest moving this post into Jr. VIP somewhere, both for it's potential and also so children and morons don't get to step 8 and start their own attack without doing their research first.
     
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  20. Alpha.

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    Don't worry, Darwin will take care of those.