RIP Google. Make way for the new King.

It's funny to see all these people saying just work harder, make quality sites and learn your SEO better. This update is nonsense, I have worked ridiculously hard on a whitehat only aged site that had nothing but quality non-spam or spun backlinks blasted out of the serps for the first time yesterday. It survived all the other updates. There are a lot of others with the same story, so if you think it's because were not working hard enough, or don't know enough about SEO you're full of shit. Read around some more and you'll see a lot of similar stories popping up. Am I going to cry and give up? Hell no but all I'm saying is G is full of shit and I hope more people get away from them, because if you think you're sites can never get harmed you'll get a rude awakening.

1. Working harder sucks. Working smarter is the way to go.

2. Yes, Google does engage in throwing out a lot of false info. That's why it's important to back up what they are saying with your own data.

3. I hope more SEOers go away from Google as well because that's just more opportunities for the ones that stay.

4. Like I said earlier, weird fluctuations in rankings always happen when Google updates their algorithm. The bigger the update, the more weirdness you will see initially. This is normal. You have to sit back and let the dust settle before you start making assumptions about anything.
 
Another SB and other xrumer victim...It's not like before anymore...
 
1. Working harder sucks. Working smarter is the way to go.

2. Yes, Google does engage in throwing out a lot of false info. That's why it's important to back up what they are saying with your own data.

3. I hope more SEOers go away from Google as well because that's just more opportunities for the ones that stay.

4. Like I said earlier, weird fluctuations in rankings always happen when Google updates their algorithm. The bigger the update, the more weirdness you will see initially. This is normal. You have to sit back and let the dust settle before you start making assumptions about anything.

Best response in the thread.

If you want to leave G behind. Then good luck and thank you for giving me more opportunities to monetize.
 
That's nice Yukinari but I would like you to tell others to chill the fuck out, stop crying etc. if all YOUR sites had tanked, hence a huge amount of income lost, as many people around this forum have over the past couple days. You as anyone else should know that even if you do everything "right", all it takes is one major update to fuck you. I carry on and work, yes, as it's too early to say what will happen yet, but there is no such thing as a "true" SEO. So many people call themselves "SEO specialists" and "SEO consultants" when they are just fiverr brokers in reality or a bunch of indians manually spamming links all day for $2 an hour. More than anything I am a webspammer, so this update is like the coming of the antichrist. I haven't cried yet but if more of my sites tank then crying will be well justified and anyone who tells us not to have a good cry has obviously dodged the bullet (for now). Much like people who were getting links from BMR and other blog networks thought they were relatively "white hat".
 
How can senior members cuss on the forums and I can't? But yea I wish more users used bing but obviously that's not the case so we just have to take on for the team :fight:
 
It had already been proven that bing takes a lot from the google index. So if you want to rank in bing you have to rank in google

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Hello everyone. Today is a sad day yet i still have learned something. Google is shit. All of my sites have been taken down to either page 5 or some site with NO CONTENT has outranked me and other AUTHORITY sites. Guys its time to move on to BING. Google will keep fucking us up every month or so, and to be honest i really cant be fucking bothered playing this stupid game that Googles wants us to play. I suggest to all IM'ers who have been affected by the latest updates to start studying BING and other search engines because google is taking the absolute piss now. Yes most of you will reply back "wait a few days, it will probably calm down" Ok lets wait a few days, then we rank for a few months with hard work and discipline while biting our finger nails waiting for google to do another algo update and boom back to page 10 again. I just cant take it any more guys sorry. Fuck Google.
i have been telling people this for the longest time.. BIng is the futre... we need a yahoo.bing section on the forum!
 
It's a waste of time to study bing or yahoo on their own; they're only useful after dominating Google. I'm #1 on those search engines for several keywords and get less hits combined then I do for the same keywords being #3 or #4 on Google. Yahoo market share is slipping slowly away. In the end, it's the users who dictate what search engine it's important to be number one on, not the other way around.

To be honest, it really depends on your targeted keywords. In most cases, it's true, but not all.

I have a website in a unique niche and I rank better in Google than Bing. According to my stats, I rake 3 times for traffic through Bing (just Bing, not Yahoo) than I do with Google.
 
g00gle hired matt cutts to make sure they say wealthy by having as many people pat for ads as possible. so they have to make seo hard.. its the name of the game.. stick to bing!
 
Ever since the update, my sites have actually sky rocketed....amidoinitright?
 
That's nice Yukinari but I would like you to tell others to chill the fuck out, stop crying etc. if all YOUR sites had tanked, hence a huge amount of income lost, as many people around this forum have over the past couple days. You as anyone else should know that even if you do everything "right", all it takes is one major update to fuck you. I carry on and work, yes, as it's too early to say what will happen yet, but there is no such thing as a "true" SEO. So many people call themselves "SEO specialists" and "SEO consultants" when they are just fiverr brokers in reality or a bunch of indians manually spamming links all day for $2 an hour. More than anything I am a webspammer, so this update is like the coming of the antichrist. I haven't cried yet but if more of my sites tank then crying will be well justified and anyone who tells us not to have a good cry has obviously dodged the bullet (for now). Much like people who were getting links from BMR and other blog networks thought they were relatively "white hat".

You say there is no such thing as a true SEO, yet you talk about Fiverr brokers and poor quality outsourcers falsely parading themselves as SEO specialists....right there you just made a distinction yourself about what real SEOers are and are not.

Those that use cheap outsourcing or places like Fiverr as part of their long term SEO strategy are more often than not nothing more than inexperienced people hoping to make a quick buck. Those that know the "ins and outs" of SEO know that Google specifically hates paid links and of course they also know about paid blog networks, places like Fiverr, automation software etc; especially now since those things are all main stream and massively abused by people that are either too lazy to learn proper link building themselves or think putting up a simple affiliate site and blasting it with a bunch of cheap links they bought from Fiverr will make them cash. It's no wonder Google is starting to crack down on quality, and to be honest, I thought this would happen sooner.

If you are a self-proclaimed webspammer, than you should have expected this day to come far in advance. I honestly have not had any long-term problems with my money sites ranking in Google throughout any updates. Yes, I experience fluctuations in rankings, but that's normal. I'm not saying this to brag or talk down to anyone, I'm saying this because in the end, if you want to rank in Google's organic SERPs, then understanding what they want and giving it too them on your websites is crucial.

And for those saying Bing is the "future" we'll have to wait and see, but as it is now, they are far from it. They have been caught already copying Google's search results, and they pretty much mirror all the changes Google makes to their SERPs because they know Google has a huge advantage and hold on the search market.

The only way they would have a chance at beating Google out would be to grow their brand larger than Google which is going to be a hell of a task since they currently don't have anything to offer that would make them better than Google in the long run.
 
I think google is pissed off about all these people ranking using blackhat methods so they fucked everything up trying to force us to buy into there adwords advertising..I bet it's working too and google will laugh all the way to the bank.
 
Until the public likes Bing everyone is stuck with google, that's just life at this point.
 
This is the game we play. If big G sat by and let black hatters walk all over them, they are done. How would you feel, as a user, if every search you did on G resulted in page after page of spun sh*t content? I'm guessing you wouldn't use G anymore. They have a business to run and a market share to defend. If we all moved to Bing, I bet you would see the same actions with them.

I'm not trying to give you a lesson in morals. After all, I'm on BHW :)

Before you get pissed an write off everything all together, think about it. Unless you are 100% legit and have a value added site(s), you can't be mad at G. You knew what you were doing was shady. If you are a true black hat, you would keep at it and find a new loophole for every mitigation strategy that G implements.

This is a cat and mouse game; if you play, you will lose from time to time.

I wish you the best of luck, but feel no sorrow.
 
Folks, don't get your boxers or panties in jumbles, in about 3-5 years search engines will be history, technology will be birthing us into a new era, 'Answer Engines' (siri,iris, etc.) People will now have an intuitive voice that can answer questions instead of manually searching for information they can ask the A.I. for questions and get answers. I know some of you iPhone owners will say that SIRI sucks but if you understood the focus that has been placed on the future models of intuition on these virtual agents, you will definitely think other-wise. Instead of people having to type or "think" about the information they want to search for, they will press a button and ask a question, which then the VA will give them the best answer based of it's extensive library of researched data.

The Sword fighting for the "Top" spots will die a slow death, with 4th and fifth generation smartphones,tablets etc being created and just the sheer number of the population that has one and access to the internet, the whole landscape of the internet will change and how people use it to retrieve information.
 
It's not about black hat or anything like that. It's about quality. Google employees make their SE worse and worse each day to make webmasters buying adwords credits. While bing doesn't. Bing serps are far better than Google's now.

actually this would be a good news. since Google SERPS will be full of shit, then people naturally move to Bing or Yahoo.
 
IMers don't decide where the money is. We just follow it. It's going to be all about G for at least the next 5 or 10 years.

Correct we just follow the money. And the saying about putting all your eggs in one basket is true. But it's interesting that in just three months supposed black hat techniques get hit...for me first twitter and a big law suit now this. Diversifacation is definitely key in this business..you got to be doing all the traffic methods to remain unaffected when these independent companies decide to do an update. Just pissed by this.
 
I suggest we create a new MEME at Facebook saying BING.com is a great and much Better Search Engine than google. This way, more and more people will check bing and will see the difference. Now, google will will slowly die
 
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