(Resolved) Selling US fake documents on BST

https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/google-duck-gads-accounts-in-stock-100-threshold-600-coupon-advertiser-verified-method-available-join-our-video.1584542/@TheKingSmm
Seller there is not selling a method but simply US fake documents for verification.
He will distribute a fake document generator

This BST is in reality about selling a fake document generator which is ilegal and criminal.

The accounts he is selling claiming to have extra spend does not exist.
$300 for $50
or $1000 for $400
are the same amounts of ad spends as when opening any other regular google ads account.
This BST is basicly about verification of accounts via fake documents which OP proofed by posting his fake ID's which has been deleted by Mods.

selling fake documents are prohibited by BHW rules

Information For The Accused
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What's happening here? BassTracker, you must have access to my course? Can't you directly confirm that this person is out of his mind?

I'm not selling any IDs. I built a tool that only my students can use, for free, as part of the method to simplify the advertiser verification process.

This is just a small step in the large process of our full Google Ads strategy.

Please check your PM now. I will send you login credentials so you can review our course. I will link you to the URL of the lesson where I explain our full method and strategy, and how we manage to spend the amount I'm promising. This should confirm once and for all that JM is speaking about things he knows nothing about. He hasn't even purchased the method, so how can he comment? What in the world is happening here?

This is ridiculous. How can my thread be locked based on someone who isn’t even a customer? Dangerous.

You have access to the course as well. I've sent BHW credentials before I launched it. You should be able to verify this on your own too.

Please I ask you, review it as soon you get the chance, this is damaging my business and scares ev. students that was about to buy the course.

Thank you.

what a bunch of nonsense you post.

Your method/strategy is that people contact you and ask for a fake US document which you deliver for verification.
People are not satisfied because they need to contact you each time when creating an account for fake documents.
That is not a method/strategy

Here the honest review of chipmunk who bought the course from him

Hi, the course is fine, he can verify no doubt (he verified an account I created) but he is still working on the product to let us verify on our own without his help. Right now need his help to verify.

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Which help is he talking heh ?The help of creating fake US ID's to verify the account.
Your hole strategy is based on these fake ID's and the generator you are working on to automate it so you don't need to create it manually anymore.

Please have a look on the text at first Screenshot with the fake documents he sent as proof.

If anyone else need fake documents when you get to the verification part,just ping me , i will create them manually for you until the generator is ready

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Conclusion without the fake document generator NO VERIFICATION

Will add later more screenshots proofing that all you care is selling the "fake documet creator"

TheKingSmm said:

This is ridiculous. How can my thread be locked based on someone who isn’t even a customer? Dangerous.

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All sales threads et locked when the seller has an open dispute.

If you are not happy with that the exit door is down the hall.

The approval of this dispute was a consensus one by several Mods because of the fake ID thing as we take that seriously.

Also, the review account you provided no longer works.

Couple those two and, yeah, we are going to action this.

I just sent you login to an additional account? Did you check it?

Let me record my screen to show you that it works

TheKingSmm said:

I just sent you login to an additional account? Did you check it?

Let me record my screen to show you that it works

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If you spam me via PM, I'll spam you to a temp ban.

If I need something I'll ask.

It was not me; I do not use third parties to communicate BHW Mod related anything.

TheKingSmm said:

@BassTrackerBoats can you please confirm for me that me and you spoke for almost 1 hour on telegram? You deleted your profile, why?

Or have I been scammed? By Thule/JM24, the person that sent you telegram chat screenshots and made this dispute.

Have I just been scammed by an imposter of you or was it really you?

I have all chats saved and exported every message.

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this JM24 guy just destroyed my future, and in a way, you made it possible for him.

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You do not want to accuse me of"destroying your future" because of an issue with you and your client.

That is ice way too thin for you to walk on no matter how light you are.

I don't know why you are accusing me to contact you as BTB.
Makes no sense as there is no value what you sell other than your fake documents which you do manually.
So were would be the benefit for me ?


Also it seems you are a drama queen with big fantasy .Once you post you are a google ads pro working so many years successfully on google ads.Later you are a verification professionalists.
So many diffrent stories how successfull you are and now you are sending me this message ?




Even i don't belive in your never ending changing stories i wish you and your father should he really have cancer the best of luck and as much money as possible but this doesn't change the fact you are selling basicly fake US documents on your BST.
You don't even hide it which you can also see on this screenshot



In our Convo each time i tried to get information on how much ad spend i will have based on which investment you always switched to the advertiser verification strategy (using fake ID's from you) telling me how much money i will safe instead of buying accounts from other people that i should not buy accounts but the strategy and if wanted to get it automaticly done via generator to wait 1-2 days.
Here you clearly stated yourself people are MOSTLY interrested in the advertiser verfication method which requires the
fake document generator.


Here how you push me again to buy the fake generator




If needed by Mod i can upload our whole convo.
It should be clear and seller is not even denying it that he is selling fake document ID's.
His so called strategy is to upload fake ID's to get advertiser verified.All buyers are waiting for the fake ID generator to be able to create themself the fake ID's.
So the main product here is clearly the fake ID generator which breaks clearly BHW rules.


Decission of dispute is of course in the hands of Mods.
I showed my points and evidence that seller if selling mainly fake id's via BST because without them the whole BST would be worthless and non working.

Have a great weekend.
If anything else is needed from me i will be glad to provide

JM24 said:

I don't know why you are accusing me to contact you as BTB.
Makes no sense as there is no value what you sell other than your fake documents which you do manually.
So were would be the benefit for me ?


Also it seems you are a drama queen with big fantasy .Once you post you are a google ads pro working so many years successfully on google ads.Later you are a verification professionalists.
So many diffrent stories how successfull you are and now you are sending me this message ?


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Even i don't belive in your never ending changing stories i wish you and your father should he really have cancer the best of luck and as much money as possible but this doesn't change the fact you are selling basicly fake US documents on your BST.
You don't even hide it which you can also see on this screenshot

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In our Convo each time i tried to get information on how much ad spend i will have based on which investment you always switched to the advertiser verification strategy (using fake ID's from you) telling me how much money i will safe instead of buying accounts from other people that i should not buy accounts but the strategy and if wanted to get it automaticly done via generator to wait 1-2 days.

Here you clearly stated yourself people are MOSTLY interrested in the advertiser verfication method which requires the
fake document generator.

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If needed by Mod i can upload our whole convo.
It should be clear and seller is not even denying it that he is selling fake document ID's.
His so called strategy is to upload fake ID's to get advertiser verified.All buyers are waiting for the fake ID generator to be able to create themself the fake ID's.
So the main product here is clearly the fake ID generator which breaks clearly BHW rules.


Decission of dispute is of course in the hands of Mods.
I showed my points and evidence that seller if selling mainly fake id's via BST because without them the whole BST would be worthless and non working.

Have a great weekend.
If anything else is needed from me i will be glad to provide

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Every word I wrote in the first screenshot is real, you wanna humiliate me in public, congrats man. Lets see if you are allowed to keep it up.

You are sick. I have all convos saved. You are writing to me from other telegram users, but you forget to change the username itself, and its the same as your other telegram thule. You are scaring me man. Really.

Here is evidence that you are this person:

you are writing about JM as in thrid person,


and in your post above here, you are showing screenshots from this user:



you just forgot to change the username, stupid kid




So done deal, end of story, you are JM24, you are Thule on telegram
And you are the person that knows where jm lives, in same city like u haha wow




its obvious that you also are the person who pretended to be BassTracker on telegrma, because you jsut wrote exactly when his telegram account said it was deleted

This, is a serious crime, pretending to be another person, in this case BassTracker.

Its a real crime.

why arer u not showing the full chat instead, what do you try to hide?

Ok lets proceed with what gonna happen here, I have nothing more to say JM24, now i have proven to yall that he is the same person as the one pretending to live in same city as JM24

Which means he pretended to be someone else

So its with highest possbility he is the person pretending to be basstracker today.

Look all previous chats if this message is unclear.

So far its clear that JM24 is 3 persons in this dispute.

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He accussed me for not selling a method but just a fake doc generator.
I have proven this very well by giving Basstracker login details to the course and in my course he will se direct that this accussment isnt true.
Matter fact, the fake doc generator isnt even ready yet, and when it is, its available for free for my students.

So that is out of questions.


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JM24 also accussd me for lying on the numbers and not being clear about the investment and ad spend

I have also very clear stated this in the course and basstracker has this info too.


Not only that, I have given basstracker the full telegram exporeted chat of the imposter that pretended e to be him, and in there is to much evidence and trust about my method and its legitimity.


Now Im wondering, what are we waiting for now?
When I have proven both accusses from JM24 to be false, why is this dispute still ongoing?

Thanks in advance

here is a post i wrote earlier but didnt send in public and instead to the fake imposter on telegram, so i post this below here too, this was written before all this new stuff about tthe bassttracker imposter etc

so have a look on it too to make things cleare



To ensure fair treatment, I have collected all marketplace threads where people are selling advertiser-verified accounts. If you wanna dispute me, then we should go at them too, I will not send the list until after decision.

Regarding providing clear answers to JM24, as he stated numerous times in my thread, even though I gave him clear answers many times on BlackHatWorld and apparently on Telegram, here is the FULL chat history: https://fastupload.io/rCqV7sRo3R0D5WH/file (the chat with the telegram account scrreenshots from _JM24 posts here above)

It's the same chat from which he sent you screenshots, so it's clear that JM is the same person as Thule on Telegram.

Look at my answer there:

"Regarding the spending question, you won't spend $300 or $600 from only one account. It's more of a strategy, but that is simplified with our technique and the tools we will provide. I don't want to sell you unicorns, but I can't also reveal the real close details without exposing the method. I can only tell you that I'm not a joker; I have been in the Google Ads game longer than many on BHW. I'm a genuine guy who wants the people on the course to succeed more than just thinking of my profit. Of course, I do it for money too, but I wouldn't do it if you couldn't make money from it. It's a hell of a good strategy to get the most return on investment, I guarantee you. And I always help with more than I need to; any other Google Ads-related problem outside the method, I fully support all of you as best I can. Whatever is needed, hosting, domains, websites, whitepapers, cloaking techniques, and the course will only get more and more things added to it every week that passes. You pay one time, and you have access for life, no matter if you only pay $350 in the start because the price will soon increase. Early birds get the most value for their investment."

After I answered clearly, he stopped asking me for more. Instead, the day after, he started harassing my thread again with questions about how much I need to invest to get XX, etc.

If the person from the chat, Thule, is JM24, as it seems in the screenshots you shared, then he knows he is doing something wrong. Why does he do it? I don't know for sure, but since he seems to be some kind of Google Ads police that is only violating my thread, WITH QUESTIONS ABOUT ME NEEDING TO STATE CLEAR ANSWERS, WHICH I HAVE DONE MANY TIMES, why isn't this question asked in Mario's Google Ads thread? My only competitor at this moment. I'm not saying or stating that he is the same person. I'm not like JM24; I don't say stuff I really don't know 100% for sure, but since I'm in this position, I have no choice but to open up and say what I think at least.

Not one question or interest has he shown in the Mario thread, meanwhile, I'm the only competitor that offers a bunch of more features than the only competitor I have.

Now, is it very important to have me stating stuff back and forth, harassing my thread?

In the end, when he understood that I'm speaking clearly and don't hide any investment numbers, he decided to go on the fake ID generator.

He then created a thread, a dispute stating stuff that isn't true at all.

So I sent BassTracker new access to our course, and I sent the text itself that shows our method and that we are not lying about any numbers, etc., so that should be very clear by now.

Then, now the issue is all of a sudden the fake ID generator that he states that I want to sell rather than the Google Ads strategy.

First of all, the fake ID generator isn't even ready. I'm still coding, and at the moment, I do all work manually and for FREE AT NO EXTRA COST TO MY STUDENTS.

SO WHAT IS IT REALLY I WANT TO SELL? FAKE IDS?

NOT AT ALL. I have spent hard work and dedicated time writing a course, built it with my own hands, using my 8 years of knowledge with Google Ads.

When it comes to creating advertiser-verified accounts, there are only 3 ways to do it:

Either with a fake ID, a stolen ID, or your own ID.

If creating accounts with fake IDs is a problem, then there is a simple solution to it. Either I stop offering guidance on how to verify the advertiser profile and just focus on everything else in the course, or I can teach students how to verify it with their own IDs the proper way.

But then, if it's a problem as it seems, then I would like to open a dispute against every seller that is selling advertiser-verified accounts, to be honest. I know the game better than many, and I can assure you that their accounts are probably 90% opened with stolen IDs. It's a normal thing in the advertiser Google world.

But not for me, because I'm skilled with Photoshop and have done this for a long time. I don't need to steal any ID. Instead, I'm doing my best to make it as easy as possible for my students to generate fake IDs without stealing, without needing Photoshop skills, just by generating.

If that is such a big deal, I told you above; we can solve this nicely by stopping offering verified accounts or teaching them how to verify accounts with their own IDs.

Because it's not such a big deal for me, because I have something other sellers don't have. I have the receipt not only to run ads from $60 to $300.

But I have the receipt to run ads for these numbers instead:

If you invest $260, you get a total of $1100 to spend.
If you invest £210, you get a total of £810 to spend.
If you invest €50, you get a total of €300 to spend.
If you invest $100 AUD, you get a total of $600 to spend.

I know this is much more attractive than just $60 to $300, so to be honest, I don't care much if I can't offer the verified accounts; it won't hurt that much.

But if you choose to ban me or not allow me to even sell this, then I feel very unfairly treated and hurt, to be honest.

I'm a genuine guy. I help my students with more than I offer in my thread. I don't sleep so I can help and help and help, instead of facing this?

I really hope you or whoever runs this forum will do the right thing and treat me correctly.

I have never done anything wrong to anyone on this forum. I don't know why I get this hate against me. The only reason I can think of is competition, and my only competition is Mario. I don't mean personally; I mean we are offering similar products, only that I do it on a different level, to be honest.

If you choose to ban me, at least don't delete this thread or post. I asked you to be proud of your decision in public so everyone can see.

I have nothing to hide. And when it comes to whether it's illegal to use my type of documents for uploading them to Google Ads, the only person I could ask was GPT, which doesn't have any real legal authority to tell what is wrong and not. But according to his answer, it's not illegal, however, it is unethical and breaks Google Ads policies, which isn't any different from any seller on the forum involved with many Google Ads types of making, selling, or whatever. BlackHatWorld is about making more than what Google offers, always, even running cloaked campaigns, which is breaking policies but not illegal. Even investing $60 but spending $300, like Mario's method offers, is unethical, not illegal but breaking big policies.

Why am I only in this position?

Why isn't JM24 warned about spamming? Yesterday was a war zone on my thread; I answered back only, and I am considered the spammer.

This isn't right, but you do as you wish.

Now, thats all from my side. Now we shall let the people read the truth black on white and see if im still the bad guy.

I wont open my mouth anymore. You do as you wish. Here is all written and solutions are many. IF you still wanna lock my thread.

That's up to you. I won't disturb anymore. Thanks for all the help..

Now Im wondering, what are we waiting for now?
When I have proven both accusses from JM24 to be false, why is this dispute still ongoing?

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Rome was not built in a day, and proper due diligence takes time.

Please be patient and let us dig through things.

Oh men what a drama queen.
First of all what would be the benefit from me ?


Secondly after watching your screenshots and having a big laugh how people are trying to scam you you should at least be aware


according to you i

contacted you as BTB at 12:59 and according to you i spoke with you for over one hour and received ALL information.
So why would i contact you afterwards as 3luht which btw looks like the opposite of thul3 aka thule (which is a known company in europe) contact you from another account with the handle @thule369 when i already could get all information out of you from the BTB account you accused me to own too where you provided based on your claim all information?
Makes totaly no sense at all.I can't say if these screenshots are fake or not as i do not care.You are free to report them to cyper crime department as i don't own any of these accounts.
My real telegram was shared very often on BHW expecially via the joint venture thread i had here but also when buying services or accounts.
I bet BTB has hundres if not thousands of accounts imposting him.
Even when you look at the english style of the two accused accounts you would see that their skill of english completly differs from mine as for me english is only a 3rd language.

Here another pic from you thread
https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/google-duck-gads-accounts-in-stock-100-threshold-600-coupon-advertiser-verified-method-available-join-our-video.1584542/post-17516125
What is the main interrest ? When is the fake generator ready???



I will add more to the dumb accusations once i'm back home.
The next you will accuse me is that i hacked your telegram.
I guess i will represent every scammer on this board now trying to scam you because thats why i opened the dispute thread.

For you information i opened this dispupte thread only because it was not enough to report your scam thread and mod told me to open a dispute


To his ad spending nonsense
"Regarding the spending question, you won't spend $300 or $600 from only one account. It's more of a strategy, but that is simplified with our technique and the tools we will provide. I don't want to sell you unicorns, but I can't also reveal the real close details without exposing the method. I can only tell you that I'm not a joker; I have been in the Google Ads game longer than many on BHW

His numbers have no diffrence to any account anyone would open.He clearly stated himself which everyone knows he uses coupons which you get for new opening accounts which everyone gets.So his numbers have completly no diffrence to even a new account a total noob would open.
So were is the value ?He clearly stated multiple times were the value is which is the verification process for which he will PROVIDE fake ID's

JM24 said:

Even when you look at the english style of the two accused accounts you would see that their skill of english completly differs from mine as for me english is only a 3rd language.

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Yeah, if someone in the world would be professional on this matter, it's you. You have contacted me already from one million telegram today, I'm sure you know the importance of changing english writng style.
However you have so many faces that the way you are writng in this post is very different from when I read posts from your history. You are forgetting who you are.

Got many people contacting me today saying you are well known for years on this forum, under name Jermain, i don't know, i dont care. it just seems that you need professional help.




I hope you sleep well at night, who ever you are. Skitzo


thanks to people that is contacting me right now about this thread

BTW your claim you proofed that all 3 accounts was me is so laughable because
its the same proof that that the BTB accounts was from BTB because of the similarity of his name/nick

Locked as name calling is not allowed in a DR thread and you both are acting like children at this point by deviating from what is germane to the thread issue.

Besides, locking for a bit is better than just giving out a bunch of warnings.