(Resolved) @arpito Scamed me

I have made a ticket about this Guy before!
I need your help about this case...
He just left me a bad feedback this days and he reminded me this case please ill send more proofs if u want to..
Ill just want thi guy banned from BHW or to get my product or my funds back ...

https://prnt.sc/v648ylL6S4ov, https://prnt.sc/wbRM4wmKLZyY, https://prnt.sc/YVd_MHVIYmyB, https://prnt.sc/-AhTxRuIRt-c, https://prnt.sc/1TXIiyAHc6UX

I hope tis proofs enough to proof that this guy scammed me ...
Here u can check his wallet he received on 27May 700$

Arpito Still Sellin in BHW and i dont know how he can sell in here.
He already scammed me 700$ FOR AMAZON AWS SES
https://usdt.tokenview.io/en/address/TSeZMhTHoEVXfYU1uHTQ1VG2jmSLR6cva9
https://usdt.tokenview.io/en/tx/5ee888decaf8020e21c1398a4a79e96216706edbc2af74935c605d3ecfc0b9cc

Here u can check that he received 3Months ago 700$ and he never replied to me ...
Even in telegram plus he is acting now he just left me a bad feedback and he reminded me.!
I really dont know how Blackhatworld staff leaves scammers in here while i reported this guy few times...

I hope you guys will take care of this i can share more proofs just send me a dm!

THE SCAMMER PROFILE: https://www.blackhatworld.com/members/arpito.1863553/

Information For The Accused
@Arpito - you have 24 hours to respond to this disputes thread. If you do not respond within 24 hours or we note that you're engaging in any other activities on the forum rather than dealing with this dispute, the decision will be made in favour of the dispute starter and you will be permanently banned from Black Hat World. In the event that you're permanently banned from the forum, you may send in a support ticket using our support channel only once you've refunded and/or provided what the plaintiff has requested.

If your responses to this dispute do not remain prompt, your account will be banned.

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What is this?? Where is the whole conversation?? This is not right!!
@BassTrackerBoats , we talked on Telegram , yes months ago! I don’t see any screenshot of that , of course not because he received what he paid. The AMAZON SES ACCOUNT was delivered to you . Now is when he is going to open a dispute? Really? After all this time?

I don’t have any records of conversation, probably he deleted the chat.

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Even, he had already reported me because supposedly I had scammed him, I have his profile even ignored so as not to maintain any kind of contact and he had said then that it had been another guy, I don't know why I can't see that on his profile maybe they deleted his comment. Can you please come in and check it? I'm sure it's there, and it was just for the same reason!

It is impossible that you have waited so long to create a dispute!

What a coincidence that everything is right when I'm stopping using telegram and I'm doing the legitimate business with an online store.

I've been receiving spam in my store for some time. I've said it several times, I don't say it was him but I don't think it's not!

This is unfair because we had the entire conversation on telegram, and he didn't even upload any photos about it.

Just yesterday I was closing business with new users and another user who had lost his conversation with me too and I attended him, and I even sent him product updates, no one has ever had problems with me!

Would it be good to have some support from my customers @BassTrackerBoats?

I don't understand how this could happen! Nowhere in the conversation does everything we talk about on telegram come out and clearly now none of that exists anymore, only the information of the conversation within the forum, said conversation that was created only to confirm that I was the same one with whom I was talking on telegram.

Where is that conversation @Drain001?

Why didn't you upload those tests? Does doing this make you happy?

Last time you received a warning for defamation saying that I had scammed you, then you said that it had been someone else, in your profile was your post I don't know if you deleted it and if so the moderators will be able to see it.

In fact, another detail that I just realized, the screenshots you just published threw away before creating the dispute are not old photos, how do I know?

I haven't been a senior member for 3 months, nor do I have the same amount of posts (801) as seen in your capture, 3 months ago I most likely had 300-400 I have no idea really.

So you spent 3 months thinking about what to do or what to say to make sure I scammed you? Really? A good plan!

You assure that I reacted or gave you a negative feedback when it is also a lie because I have never done it despite the fact that you did it to me) the moderators can check it), the whole thread is a hoax!

@BassTrackerBoats Im not seeing a single proof that he Sent the thing what i paid for no where you never replied to us no where we made the deal thru BHW we was waiting product on BHW I SWEAR ON MY GOD that i believe that u never sent the PRODUCT NO WHERE not in BHW not in TELEGRAM who made a deal with you they know who you are !!

As i said im not seeing a single proof where u sent the product i never cleared any chat LIKE NEVER EVER TOUCHED NOTHING ....
You remember me so good when you received the money u dissapeared as you can see you never replied on forum that i sent you the PRODUCT ON TELEGRAM PLEASE CHECK TELEGRAM you never said that ...
You clearly scamemd me and please just refund me my money and to be honnest i hope you get banned cz u are pure SCAMMER and you are MANIPULATOR that will try to MANIUPLATE THE CONVERSATION with 0 Proofs I hope staff takes any action about this ...
I got desperated from BHW So bad it was my first day on BHW my first DEAL and i got scammed directly ....
I got a suggestion from a real high member of this forum to join here and i got mad desperated but i hope they will take action agains you cuz you are pure Scammer !!!

Just Finish this @BassTrackerBoats i sent you all the Conversation i can even send you in your dm Teamviewer and you can check whatever you want cuz i never manipulated anything !!

I really wanna laugh so bad how this manipulators trynna MANIPULATE CONVERSATION im not to flex you in here just check the main balance of that USDT TRC20 do you think moderators should trust you !
Im doin this only because u deserve a bann i hope mods will decide for a refund and i want you to not do that cuz u dont deserve this place i swear you dont deserve this u r purrroo scammmmer .....

I hope you make the right decission ...

Both of you need to be civil and respectful. No accusations or insults, otherwise warnings will be given out.

@Arpito, there is a conversation between the two of you on BHW where Drain001 is claiming they did not receive what they ordered, regardless of whatever you are claiming happened on Telegram. You need to provide proof that you delivered what was advertised to them.

There is a confirmation - conversation.
Where there is no price listed , so ¿how did he know to pay $700?
Where there is no other contact than “I’m here” because he asked to prove that it was me!
The whole deal was made through telegram.

How can we know that i scam him ? If there is only 5 lines of conversation and the last one he is accusing me already for scamming.

He is claiming that i scam him, the only proof is the conversation , how can we know that i delivered the product? The only proof it’s the conversation and Yes , in the telegram conversation .
I’m not denying that i make a deal , we made it .
3 months later he just figured out that i scam him? Really man?

I’m trying to be respectful, but come on, 3months after i scammed someone?
I have great respect and positive reviews from my clients , can i ask them to post here? Isn’t important that?

Edit : Don’t dare to use your “lord” or “God” here . Your proofs are the same as mine.
The BHW conversation. And that’s the only reason why this thread is is live , show the proofs of our conversation.
Your product was delivered . What’s wrong now? Your account was banned and you need one more?

Arpito said:

There is a confirmation - conversation.
Where there is no price listed , so ¿how did he know to pay $700?
Where there is no other contact than “I’m here” because he asked to prove that it was me!
The whole deal was made through telegram.

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There is a verifiable conversation on BHW where someone sent a message to you stating that they paid you and got nothing - if you just never responded to that, then that also puts you in the wrong.

So, since there is a deal on Telegram (and you have confirmed this) then you have had a transaction with this member, which means all of your arguments about it just being a conversation are irrelevant, aren't they?

Arpito said:

How can we know that i scam him ? If there is only 5 lines of conversation and the last one he is accusing me already for scamming.

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We don't know if you scammed him - that's why this dispute exists. If we knew you scammed him, you would be banned.

They have presented evidence suggesting you did not fulfil your deal with them. ALL you need to do is provide evidence you gave what you advertised. Is there some reason that you can not do that? Do you have no record of your transaction or business with this member?

And no, don't post positive reviews you've gotten. That is not evidence of anything relating to this. Just focus on proving to us that you delivered the service to the member.

I found something one second he still sells thru this bot all the sales that he made was thru the bot !!
https://prnt.sc/qgzM4t-UKW3J
https://prnt.sc/lFsSspgrZkZj

He saw the Messages i wrote to him on 18June aswell sorry for the bad behaviour but it was on "telegram" not on BHW !...
Also i never cleared conversations he turned his @botsbhw to CHANNEL as you see "CONTACT ME" so he truned his telegram to a telegram channel.
I hope this is enough proof that this guy tried to manipulate conversations and thanks GGGGGGOD i FOUND this "ARPITO"

Again another person comes out who claims to be scammed by me, talking about my store and my bot.

Yes, it has not been secret to anyone. Even I shared my bot's link on several occasions. Anyone could access it, I have all the necessary resources to get my bot back on, your messages were never received by my bot, clearly you see your mistake and then your insults.

@Impulse, I don't have any record of my conversation with him, I have exactly the same thing he presented here, some screenshots of our conversation I can also do it.

The telegram conversation is all relevant, my profile has NEVER changed the address, even my channel has been active, and also to talk to me directly I do it through the channel.

This user claims that I scammed him, there is no payment confirmation, but I did admit having received it, and after this the account was sent.

I mean, someone steals $700 from you, you patiently wait 3 months and then you remember that you were scammed? Really? Who does that?

It's all a lie, I don't know what kind of manipulation he's talking about.

It is not relevant that he has disappeared that time and now appears so aggressively, why did he remember? Isn't it relevant that the conversation within the forum is and it was a conversation just to confirm that I was talking to the same person on telegram?

It is not relevant that there is no explanation of where you contacted me? He contacted me by telegram, so why did he delete the conversation? If he had really been scammed, wouldn't he have simply captured the conversation as the others have done? And are you going to wait so long to say it?

I have no way to prove that the product was delivered as he does not have any proof that he was scammed, he only has a message accusing me, as I accuse another user, why don't they check his profile the deleted messages?

Then you paid for a service for which you were desperate, but they scam you $700 you prefer to shut up and then come back, is that something that can be credible at least?

About this

Also i never cleared conversations he turned his @botsbhw to CHANNEL as you see "CONTACT ME" so he truned his telegram to a telegram channel.

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That’s another lie! Telegram
Does not allow two users to have the same user. Doesn’t matter if you use in channel or username , is the same. So if i always have used the same , why you said that I switched to channel my account?

It is impossible to change the user of one account, and use it at the same time in another or even change it suddenly as you are claiming. My contact link remains the same, but I only offer private support on telegram to my clients. (I have recent evidence of this, just from yesterday. Before this happened, so that you don't say I'm myself either)

Everyone who has talked to me knows my telegram account, if you are not my customer then how did you end up buying? How did you know how much to pay?

@Arpito, please gather all your thoughts and make one post instead of multiple ones in a row as that makes it sloppy and hard to manage to serve you and the accused.

@Arpito

I’m increasingly concerned that you are just stalling.

The next post you make needs to be some evidence of your transaction with this member. If you are unable to comply, the dispute will be resolved against you and you will be banned.

I was going to edit but the time passed, and they deleted the post I had made, I'm sorry I don't write English so well and I use the translator to write faster, I forgot to write the part in Spanish in English.

For the accuser: I have not denied having done business with you, on the contrary I have said all the times that it was like that. What you are accusing me of for something that is not true, I really don't even remember your telegram user in the conversation, there is not even that. I haven't scammed you, be honest.

You say I scammed you 3 months ago and now you accuse me just because you remembered, did you remember after 3 months that you lost money because of a scam? Curiously, you hadn't forgotten about my user in the forum, and you took the screenshots before creating this thread.

@Impulse, honestly? I don't have any proof, the only thing I have is the same thing that the accuser has posted. I don't have any photos of any transaction or any record.

This business was one of the first in which I started before creating my own, I sold the accounts for small commissions.

What can I say about this? I'm really surprised, my attitude in this forum has always been the best I could. I haven't scammed anyone, I don't know how I can check it, I don't know if my customers' reviews can be of any use.

I'm baffled by this situation, that's the truth. I didn't even access the accounts, to avoid any problems they sent them to me and I delivered them. It was that simple.

Whats the procedure? This means that because he has posted our conversation without any transaction, any thread request the service , just because he said he was scammed by me i scammed him?

Arpito said:

I was going to edit but the time passed, and they deleted the post I had made, I'm sorry I don't write English so well and I use the translator to write faster, I forgot to write the part in Spanish in English.

For the accuser: I have not denied having done business with you, on the contrary I have said all the times that it was like that. What you are accusing me of for something that is not true, I really don't even remember your telegram user in the conversation, there is not even that. I haven't scammed you, be honest.

You say I scammed you 3 months ago and now you accuse me just because you remembered, did you remember after 3 months that you lost money because of a scam? Curiously, you hadn't forgotten about my user in the forum, and you took the screenshots before creating this thread.

@Impulse, honestly? I don't have any proof, the only thing I have is the same thing that the accuser has posted. I don't have any photos of any transaction or any record.

This business was one of the first in which I started before creating my own, I sold the accounts for small commissions.

What can I say about this? I'm really surprised, my attitude in this forum has always been the best I could. I haven't scammed anyone, I don't know how I can check it, I don't know if my customers' reviews can be of any use.

I'm baffled by this situation, that's the truth. I didn't even access the accounts, to avoid any problems they sent them to me and I delivered them. It was that simple.

Whats the procedure? This means that because he has posted our conversation without any transaction, any thread request the service , just because he said he was scammed by me i scammed him?

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Do you not want to make an attempt to try and look for evidence of the work being done? You seriously have nothing?

You are running a professional business and you have no records of a transaction you made with a customer at all?

Impulse said:

Do you not want to make an attempt to try and look for evidence of the work being done? You seriously have nothing?

You are running a professional business and you have no records of a transaction you made with a customer at all?

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It was a transaction that was made several months ago, incredibly I lost that same Wallet because the provider I used for my bot payments. (I stated this in my profile)

I'm an idiot! BHW for me has been a great process + progress, I have learned a lot but that's how it was. I don't have any record as he doesn't have it either, I don't even know what his user is, I delivered the product and when I didn't receive any more response from him the conversation stayed there, that's what usually happens when you do a business. I never thought or imagined that this would happen to me, really!

That's how hard it is to believe that I delivered the product anyway, it's hard to believe that I smamed! 3 months passed! How can someone forget that $700 was stolen from you?

It seems like a kind of joke, I can't understand something like that.

I have been the most transparent guy in my business, I have never had problems with any of my clients, and if I do not feel able to deliver better I do not accept the deal, I think it has nothing to do with this but at least a proof that I am not a scammer, please could you ask one of my clients to leave their experience with me, sincere and honest.

I don't know what the reason is of the user who is accusing me of making such a comment about me, it's like the business we did is for me to give him something for working with me, I paid his account and he received it, I used it because he never informed me even that he was not going to create this thread, if he had at least informed me that this was going to happen at least I could have tried to save something.

I think he should have informed me that he was going to create this dispute before creating it, but still, 3 months brother! How can that be credible?

Arpito said:

if he had at least informed me that this was going to happen at least I could have tried to save something.

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Perhaps working out something with the accuser is in your best interests... not saving business transaction content is a really poor way to manage a business and in the US there are laws that apply which makes that illegal.

Tighten up, work something out with the accused and stop using TG as your selling platform... really stop using TG period.

Are you serious buddy !
Guys why u just cant accept that this dude scammed me !
I said i dont have what to add anymore he remembers me so good I NEVER EVER CHANGED ANYTHING WE OWN A PROXY COMPANY WE OWN A MARKET WE OWN ADVERTISING SERVICES and my username always always always have been same you can even check it i will not share my username in here but i can share to Moderators so they can see if i ever changed my username !!
Please moderators dont u see that this guy is just creating this on his mind tryin to send some fake proofs i still dont see any proof where he have sent the product not in telegram not in BHW Please guys i dont have anymore proofs what should i add why you aint still makin any decission and u still believin on this Lies what he is creating on his mind !!!
As i said would u think that a dude from that address will lie to people ? Received a tone of $ in few months and i still have to deal with this guy the only reason is i dont wanna let this dude to Scam other people cuz one day he will do that again 1000% Please take this suggestin as i even said i dont want my 700$ more then i want this guy to be banned from BHW cuz i swear he dont deserves this place cuz he scammed me i sent the proofs where i dm-ed at his bot on 18 June after 3Weeks after the deal i told him on TELEGRAM "https://prnt.sc/4zXdLs0WMrXz" why he didnt replied me like hey check your dm-s i have sent you the product there or check BHW i sent u product there cuz he never sent it never ever !?

i sent proofs where i dm-ed him on BHW and he never replied me so what kind of proofs should i sent more ?
When he isnt sendin a single proof like a single proof that he sent me the product somewhere cuz he didnt sent me the product no where !
He is just fixing this things that he is tryin to act like he sent me the AWS somewhere no he never sent it to me never ever ....

I dont really know what to talk and what more proofs i should add in here please guys ask this Arpito to send only proofs where he send the product not proofs that dont even show nothing !!
Moderators i can share ur username on DM's cuz he can manipulate with that username that's why i dont wanna share it in here ...

Ill wait for a decission i dont have anything to add in here ...

Bro, you are a liar and i showed above your profile ID , your username and your product details , delivered!!
Our telegram conversation was deleted by you, and you changed your username before create this dispute.But you used a proof with a date , this date is impossible to me to change it .
I searched the store database and upload all the proofs that yes , you used my bot but you also get the product!
Your username was changed , anyone who want to prove it , use @usinfobot in telegram , it’s a public service so I’m not affiliated with them , search by his ID 5976752005 and try to access to that username . It’s says “username doesn’t exist” why? Because he changed !

It's impossible for me to know what your account was, because you deleted the entire conversation, but there are your account details! In the bot, that you wrote and saved your data before turning it off, I have all the data saved here locally (I also said it in my profile that I was running my bot locally, you can check it) the DB file cannot be modified, I can make a video showing the file and trying to edit it so that it is seen that it does not give permission to edit it, or I can upload it as a final test to the moderators if they wish. You can't keep cheating!

You keep saying that my bot "reads" the messages, any user can write directly to the bot if he wants, he will see that it will come out just the same as you get, that the message was "read", but it has not been read or even received since my bot is offline , so there is no reply back . What confirms that I’m saying the truth about the file , also about your data!
So what are you going to say now??

Are you or are you not the Lex user on telegram? I can't even add you to contacts because it won't let me, do you have me blocked? Mods , if you want i can use my scraper bot to add the user id into a telegram group, so you can see the account and prove the details that i sent above.

@BassTrackerBoats trust me , i follow all the steps , all the words that you said are very helpful to me. Telegram is not my main source of contact, any people who want contact me have to reach me through support , i have proof of this , the only way that someone can contact me directly from telegram is because we already talked.
So now i have my own proofs and my data stored from this user , i can do more research and bring more proofs if needed, now i have the TG ID So if the user delete this account , i will know.

You both need to cut it out with the long paragraphs that don't add additional information. Please just stick to the facts. No more "why haven't you banned the other person already???" nonsense. We are trying to mediate this as fairly as we can, which means we give both sides a reasonable amount of time to provide evidence.

@Drain001, arpito has provided evidence to the contrary of your claims. Do you have any evidence that you did not receive what you paid for?

What you mean he provided what kind of proofs he provided where he sent a single proof that he sent me the PRODUCT PLEASE SHOW ME ONE SINGLE PROOF that he sent me the product first of all that is not my usernme second i never ever changed the username since i opened telegram everyone knows me on our community as a drain I DONT USE ALT's like arpito did So i never ever received everything didnt i provided you proofs that i never received nothing even from telegram even from BHW i contacted him on his BOT on 18 June and he saw the message never replied to me that he sent me the product on Telegram why tho ? Cuz he never sent it ! You saw messages that i dm-ed him on BHW that i accussed him for a scammer why he never replied me go check your Telegram cuz he never sent me the product like you guys taking his SCREENSHOTS as evidences when they dont proof a single word ! How you can claim that they sent proofs when that is not my username and he tried his best to EDIT that database ...
What kind of proofs u want me to add like i hope you guys are serious and not tryin to take those as Evidences and proofs i hope someone else Joins this dispute and as i said where it will be the reason for me to report this guy when idrc about my 700$s i just wanna proof to the people that this guy is a clear SCAMMER i dont have anymore proofs and i never changed MY TELEGRAM USER you got a tone of proofs that he changed TELEGRAM USERNAME he turnned it into a channel TELEGRAM CHANNEL...

Moderators please check support.blackhatworld.com Drain001 where i already made few tickets about this case !!!
There you will find more and you will see more ill wait your reaction and ill see his reaction after this ...
Just please go at support.blackhatworld.com and check my tickets
https://support.blackhatworld.com/support/tickets/539831
https://support.blackhatworld.com/support/tickets/573321

I really dont have anymore proofs what should i add on this case i just know that he is scammer and i dont have more evidences i just can say that he clearly scammed me and this guy remembers me so good he just forgot my username "SADDLY" cz he tried to manipulate that situation with that kiara telegram when i never ever used kiara telegram just 1 TELEGRAM !!!
I sent every single proof and he sent 0000 PROOFS !
So if you guys will ask me for more evidences dont do it just ask him to bring as much evidences that i brought like REAL EVIDENCES not that kind of evidences that dont proof nothing "THAT IS NOT EVEN MY USERNAME"

I brought everything on scene FROM TG FROM BHW from everywhere if he would sent me the product he would mention that on his bot or BHW he never did cz he never sent the PRODUCT...You guys can think about it would u leave someone to accuse u for scammers if u already sent him the product u would sent to him a message ur product is on TELEGRAM and bye he never said that cz never sent the Product!

Wish you luck to yall guys & Wish you the best.

@Drain001 your follow up post was deleted because it added no useful information.

Are you claiming that you never received the service you paid for from them? Or that you did receive it but it was not to the standard that was promised?

Give me a clear and concise answer.