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Rep circles - the truth ...

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by Asif WILSON Khan, Oct 1, 2013.

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  1. Asif WILSON Khan

    Asif WILSON Khan Executive VIP Jr. VIP

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    ... I have noticed a disturbing trend recently where JrVIPS are being accused of being Rep Whores or involved in Rep Circles.

    There may be a tiny minority involved in such practices but the truth does not match the accusations.

    As with all communities we tend to be drawn to people that share our values or sense of humour.
    So it stands to reason that we are likely to rep those people more often and those people will tend to have already friended each other.
    This in turn means we are likely to see each others posts more than those in the rest of the forum.

    I +rep and -neg where I see fit and will neg JrVIPS if they are talking bullshit but in general JrVIPS tend to be reluctant to neg rep each other.
    This may be a form of respect and also the fear of getting negged back, but it is irrelevant.

    Those members who have high Rep counts have either contributed to the forum or are amongst the members who sign in here EVERY SINGLE DAY.
    It is obvious that you will be more likely to receive rep if you are AN ACTIVE MEMBER OF THE FORUM.
    I have contributed NOTHING of great value to this forum, so why is my rep so high?
    It might have to do with the fact that BHW is open in my browser 12+ hours a day.
    I might post shit but at least I am an active shit poster.

    Now there seem to be some people demanding change in the rep situation but I have always been told and always thought that REP IS BULLSHIT.
    So my question is, if rep is bullshit, WHY DOES IT HAVE TO CHANGE?

    All of the systems ARE open to abuse, rep, thanks and even iTrader CAN be abused.
    In fact it would be better to let us have UNLIMITED thanks as sometimes I have repped people when a thanks would have been sufficient but had used up my quota for the day.

    The people making the accusations seem to be people that have been negged by JrVIPS and rather than look at themselves and question WHY they got neeged they just jump to the conclusion that there is some great JrVIP conspiracy going on.
    The funny thing is, that the people who are throwing around these accusations are the people who ARE NOT PARTICIPATING in the forum, DO NOT ADD VALUE or are just posting shittier TROLL material than I post.

    This will make me sound like a petty wanker (it's OK, I am) but ONE of the reasons I upgraded was because I was concerned that if I got negged I would be pissed off not knowing who did it. I was never afraid of being negged, just that it would frustrate me not knowing who did it.
    That is why I ALWAYS inform somebody that it was me that negged them and the reason why.
    Maybe if changes ARE going to be made then the anonymous rep feature should be removed, not the whole system.

    As far as I know, I have only ever been negged once and that was by a fellow JrVIP by accident (or so they say hmm, j/k).
    Rep doesn't bother me any more (I got loads j/k) so give me + or give me - I couldn't give a flying [email protected]
    I come to BHW for 1 reason and that is to LEARN and expand my knowledge of things that other people know more about and are thankfully willing to share.
    I am not interested in earning rep.

    This is MY OPINION only, the Mods and Admin may be seeing other things going on so it would be great if they could comment.

    I now open this up to the forum for calm discussion and sensible debate.


    P.S I have had trouble sleeping recently and have been going for 48+hours so none of the above may make sense.
    Not that it would even if I had slept.
    If it is total bullshit then please fell free to spam the thread with T&A.
     
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  2. gullsinn

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    Rep Whores I'm crying.
     
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  3. Panther28

    Panther28 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    Fuck. misread the title, thought this was crop circles the truth.
     
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  4. Windmill

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    Sorry for the lack of sleep - it sucks.

    Just got to throw out there that I literally forget about the rep system until I get a little message alerting me to the fact I got repped. I use the thanks instead - I never run out of it for a day since I am so infrequently on here however and giving both is too much effort (this is the internet)
     
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    W10SN, pay no attention to that nonsense. I love your posts and I think you are awesome. You are a very nice person and deserve all the rep you get.
     
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    This needed to be said.

    I was shocked reading some of the accusations made towards other members.

    I'm sure I speak for others as well, when I look at the +rep comments I've recieved, they contain a few "lol's". But the majority say "thank you" or something along those lines.

    Do enough stalking, I'm sure you'll find a reason for any of the high rep members to have the rep they have.
     
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    I Agree! Sums the whole post up right there.
     
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  8. Asif WILSON Khan

    Asif WILSON Khan Executive VIP Jr. VIP

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    Haters gonna hate my friend :)

    What concerns me most about rep is when people try to analyze another person's rep and then put it on an imaginary scale of deserved or undeserved. I've seen this by all classes of members on BHW and think it's in poor taste. Saying some guy only posts lounge posts so he's undeserving of his rep is a slap in the face to that member. When such wording comes from highly respected members of BHW it's even a bigger slap.

    I don't usually get involved in these threads as they're opinion threads and we all know what people say about opinions.....

    I think people shouldn't question how another member got his rep but if rep is so concerning to them then they should work on their own rep building rather than bash another's rep.

    Keep up the good work OP!
     
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  10. michael8t6

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    made perfect sense, more than what I'd make on a 48 hr day :) Since I started visitng bhw again recently I've noticed a increase in members with low post count and extreamly high rep! wondered what was going on now I know :) Makes me chuckle when you see people moan about rep :)

    "awww I got negged repped :'("

    really..seriously dude.. Grow the F up.. It's rep on a forum on the internet! It's easy to mistake the internet for the real world at times but IT'S NOT REAL!!! You can't buy a loaf of bread with it, stop wining and get out there and earn that $$$. If someones to busy worrying about rep then they clearly aint ready to be making a living online!

    That being said it is appriciated when I do receive rep, especially when it's for helping someone. Not been negged yet but if it happens it happens! It's not gonna stop one of my bots earning me money, it's not gonna make me starve and it's not gonna make me lose my home!
     
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  11. the_demon

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    I only give +/- REP where it's deserved. If you're a dick spamming the forum best believe you're getting some -REP, at the same time, if you actually make an impressive contribution I will def. +REP you. I try to be very balanced. I'm sure there might be a small % in REP circles, but as Jr. VIP and above most of us already know it's not worth risking our accounts for a couple of rep points... Besides, if we're really hungry for REP us Senior members know just what to do... Post a good method! DERR. And people will +REP you. It's not a challenge, just write good posts.

    To the "younger" members (as in newer to the forum). Us "higher ranking" guys aren't some bunch of "elitists", we all have spent years working up the ladder. We were all newbs once, we have all been flamed before, and we have all flamed others before. We've lost REP, we've gained REP. Just the same as you. Anyone of you Newbs can be a "high ranking" member too, just put in your time, post some good shares, be active, and you can be "on top" as well. This isn't some exclusive circle or special people club, any one of you can earn your way up here just like we all have.

    I didn't get Jr. Exec VIP over night, I put in 5 years worth of my time of being an active member and followed the rules.
     
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  12. Furious George

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    Doesn't abuse happen when someone is hurt?
     
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    Honestly, who the fuck cares... is like if they shout out ugly, why would you turn around and look unless you were ugly and believed you were?

    Ignore = win...
     
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  15. Mr Rishav

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    I don't care about rep's because they don't makes me money. I'm here to help people and makes money. That's all I care about and for that only I comes on BHW daily :)
     
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    Although I strongly believe in keeping neg reps to VIP control, it can get slightly frustrating sometimes.

    (I have a rep of 3, but hey, as long as it's green!)
     
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    You deserve your rep.
    I believe you were doing some sherlock holmes kinda stuff around the forums helping members out and sniffing out the bad apples.
    We need people like you as the level of scammers have gone far too high.
     
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    If you aren't concerned about reps why bother spending time on such a long post about the same topic. Isn't this hypocrisy and contradicting yourself?
     
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    ~Slightly off Topic



    If W130SN became a mod, what would his status be?

    My suggestions...

    RepWhore & Troll Moderator
    Spam Killer Deluxe
    Sleep-Deprived Moderator
     
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  20. Asif WILSON Khan

    Asif WILSON Khan Executive VIP Jr. VIP

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    Not really, all I am trying to do is show that OTHERS are TOO concerned about it and that it is meaningless.
    Then again I am an enigma.
     
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