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Personally, we should split the link building into subsections to make it easier.

I personally don't see much of a difference between Link Building & Link Packages

There are many Link Building BSTs (if not all) that offer "Packages" in their BST, which kind of defeats the purpose of "Link Packages" being a section on it's own.

I would suggest maybe the type of backlink building instead.
  • Guest posts/Niche edits
  • PBNs
  • Web2.0/diversity/All-in-one/other
  • Premium SEO - Guest Posts / Niche Edits / Manual Outreach/ HARO / Editorial links
  • Regular SEO - Managed PBN services / PBNs / Press Releases / Forum, Quora, Reddit, Wikipedia etc. links / Local SEO
  • Basic SEO - Web 2.0 / Diversity / Foundation links / Blog comments
By @Starblazer

It is sometimes quite a hassle trying to find what you want to buy, especially when the title doesn't tell me jack.

My honest opinion to all you BST holders, having a title that doesn't tell me what you offer does not attract my attention
^ enough about that because this isn't about that. If you want to bitch about it, start your own thread

Anyways, It would feel like a more nice touch, afterall, we already have "2" sections for link building, we are technically just adding 1 more right and renaming the other two :p
 
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BHW needs to seriously consider what OP mentioned.
It's user friendly and also helps sellers a lot with more sales as it provide more visibility to there threads.

With present structure first page of seo-link building are mostly advertisement threads.
It's too hard to find threads we are looking for.
 
We need specific sub-groups that differentiate from each group:
  • Premium SEO - Guest Posts / Niche Edits / Manual Outreach / Managed PBN services / Editorial links
  • Regular SEO - PBNs / Press Releases / Forum, Quora, Reddit, Wikipedia etc. links
  • Basic SEO - Web 2.0 / Diversity / Foundation links / Blog comments
  • SEO services - Keyword research, Indexing, Lists, Local SEO, GMB verification etc.
The quality & price should be maintained for the section. This will seggregate services to a great extent.
 
Starblazer said:
We need specific sub-groups that differentiate from each group:
  • Premium SEO - Guest Posts / Niche Edits / Manual Outreach / Managed PBN services / Editorial links
  • Regular SEO - PBNs / Press Releases / Forum, Quora, Reddit, Wikipedia etc. links
  • Basic SEO - Web 2.0 / Diversity / Foundation links / Blog comments
  • SEO services - Keyword research, Indexing, Lists, Local SEO, GMB verification etc.
The quality & price should be maintained for the section. This will seggregate services to a great extent.
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I like, let me add this to the original post :D !

Although
  • SEO services - Keyword research, Indexing, Lists, Local SEO, GMB verification etc.
Should be in the "Other" section where it is currently. With the exception of Local SEO

Also, I wouldn't like Managed PBN services mixed in with Premium SEO, simply because, everyone is trying pass off their PBN as a managed premium PBN :eek:
 
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Long overdo! That's why people including myself post in the HAF section.
We don't want to sift through a load of threads.
 
xReminisce said:
I like, let me add this to the original post :D !

Although
  • SEO services - Keyword research, Indexing, Lists, Local SEO, GMB verification etc.
Should be in the "Other" section where it is currently. With the exception of Local SEO

Also, I wouldn't like Managed PBN services mixed in with Premium SEO, simply because, everyone is trying pass off their PBN as a managed premium PBN :eek:
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SEO services is just a fancy name. It wouldn't make much difference if it's Others section. Local SEO should be On-page SEO instead (I'm not sure if it comes under web design service). When I said Local SEO, I was thinking about GMB creation and verification service.

Managed PBN is when a service provider creates and maintains PBN for users. It includes domain, hosting, content, and backlinks. I think monthly linkbuilding services can also be listed under Premium (sellers use multiple names for this service).
 
Starblazer said:
SEO services is just a fancy name. It wouldn't make much difference if it's Others section. Local SEO should be On-page SEO instead (I'm not sure if it comes under web design service). When I said Local SEO, I was thinking about GMB creation and verification service.

Managed PBN is when a service provider creates and maintains PBN for users. It includes domain, hosting, content, and backlinks. I think monthly linkbuilding services can also be listed under Premium (sellers use multiple names for this service).
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True, but was thinking more of the lines of simplifying it since that may pose a high potential of confusing an average user who isn't that knowledgeable about SEO :(
 
xReminisce said:
True, but was thinking more of the lines of simplifying it since that may pose a high potential of confusing an average user who isn't that knowledgeable about SEO :(
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For an average user, it should look like costly, moderate, and cheap SEO services. This will also improve reputation of BHW because when I search for "bhw link building" (which I think any unfamiliar user would do), I mostly find negative reviews because there is a generalization of link building services. Someone purchases diversity package from the most popular thread in link building section and complains that BHW links don't work (or blackhat SEO doesn't work).

We can improve the situation to a great extent by seggregating these services. The reviewers can at best say that cheap SEO services on BHW don't work. This will definitely bring more customers to the sellers.
 
Start the thread title with standardized format denoting the subcategories the thread falls under. This will help to search and find as well. When someone is opening a thread, allow them to add those before the title. During the approval process, staff can change it if needed.

Examples:
[Guest Posts] Amazing posting service
[PBN | Guest Posts] We provide everything
 
Starblazer said:
For an average user, it should look like costly, moderate, and cheap SEO services. This will also improve reputation of BHW because when I search for "bhw link building" (which I think any unfamiliar user would do), I mostly find negative reviews because there is a generalization of link building services. Someone purchases diversity package from the most popular thread in link building section and complains that BHW links don't work (or blackhat SEO doesn't work).

We can improve the situation to a great extent by seggregating these services. The reviewers can at best say that cheap SEO services on BHW don't work. This will definitely bring more customers to the sellers.
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Problem is, price does not equal quality for some of these link.
I am not going to name them but I know sellers here who sell links not even worth a fifth of what they are asking for
On the flip side, I also seen some "cheap" link that are actually really good links, and they shouldn't be "thrown" in the "cheap SEO service" just because they are offering it cheaply.

reuse said:
Start the thread title with standardized format denoting the subcategories the thread falls under. This will help to search and find as well. When someone is opening a thread, allow them to add those before the title. During the approval process, staff can change it if needed.

Examples:
[Guest Posts] Amazing posting service
[PBN | Guest Posts] We provide everything
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This I like too, it's neat aswell, then they can throw whatever bs they want afterwards.
 
reuse said:
Start the thread title with standardized format denoting the subcategories the thread falls under. This will help to search and find as well. When someone is opening a thread, allow them to add those before the title. During the approval process, staff can change it if needed.

Examples:
[Guest Posts] Amazing posting service
[PBN | Guest Posts] We provide everything
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This won't happen in the next 50 years. Our subconscious minds make a note of sales threads and we skip them. For example, I don't even read when I see WTB flair because I'm not selling anything. There are many regular users who usually don't buy anything and usually skip these threads. The sellers write fancy threads to drive users to at least check their threads. I think it's fine if they place the service name somewhere in the title.

xReminisce said:
Problem is, price does not equal quality for some of these link.
I am not going to name them but I know sellers here who sell $100 links for $300
I seen some "cheap" link that are actually really good links, and they shouldn't be "thrown" in the "cheap SEO service" just because they are offering it cheaply.
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I totally agree with you. This is the reason mods don't want to change anything. This can give some sellers unfair advantage over others, and they won't like if mods question the quality of their service to minute details.
 
  • Premium SEO - Guest Posts / Niche Edits / Manual Outreach/ HARO / Editorial links
But what about those sellers who are selling PBN links as guest posts / manual outreach and niche edits?

A $25 guest post inc content, outreach etc isn't a premium product. Neither is a niche edit that gets placed 25 minutes after a person submits their details.
 
Starblazer said:
I totally agree with you. This is the reason mods don't want to change anything. This can give some sellers unfair advantage over others, and they won't like if mods question the quality of their service to minute details.
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Yup, distinctly as humans, we usually will never associate "cheap" with "quality".

MisterF said:
A $25 guest post inc content, outreach etc isn't a premium product. Neither is a niche edit that gets placed 25 minutes after a person submits their details.
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kek
Maybe I like my idea better afterall :eek:

Just group it up as what type of link they are.
Also, doing due diligence is part of the fun looking for good sellers right

MisterF said:
But what about those sellers who are selling PBN links as guest posts / manual outreach and niche edits?
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Let's not go there, I don't know what the ajfoaskosoi went through their mind when they thought of that, and I personally don't feel sorry for anyone who buys that either. (I do hope they brought it knowingly know what they brought)

Then again, they are just taking a poke at what "Guest Post" really means
"A Guest Post is an article written and posted on someone else's blog" which by all means, everything with an article and a link back to you is a guest post really, loosely defined.

But I do 100% agree, they are not premium services. However, everyone calls their pbn/guest post the best and premium and 100 other terms for it.
Just one opinion stacked against another sadly.
 
I'll add this to a list of features to be considered. This doesn't guarantee anything, though.

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