Ranking 301 Redirect Domains?

akiaki said:

I said it would be temporary (at best) if there was no relevancy. What are you disagreeing with exactly? That there will be any boost at all (because of lack of relevancy) or that it would be temporary?

If the latter, why do you think an unrelated site would benefit long term from 301'd links with no relevancy? Perhaps you're postulating that ANY link gives you at least a little juice, even if it's irrelevant. I would buy that, but would only add that I wouldn't go out of my way or spend much money to get a bunch of links that are not related to my site's niche, since they may not be any better than a blast of comment spam. Yeah? If not, please explain.

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You must be an SE0moz fanboy and drink plenty of their kool aid... Why the fuck do you think some of the most powerful SEO packages post panda are high PR contexual blog posts and similar High PR "contexual" style services? Cause the shit works! 99.9% of the time you have a keyword focused anchor text link wrapped in relevant text on a page with 50 other "irrelevant" links on an "irrelevant" domain with high PR and a strong backlink profile and domain trust. I've had medium comp sites ranking top 3 for over 2 years JUST from a couple of these types of services alone and very light maintenance but I guess the definition of "temporary" is in the eye of the beholder. Furthermore, at worst, if big G deindexed or devalued the sites 99% of the time you will only see a devaluation or deletion of these links which in turn would just mean to build more links or replace the old to regain your rankings. Sick of hearing this "relevance" argument really from people that have no fucking clue what they are talking about.

I have also 301 redirected high PR domains (irrelevant) that I only added 250 words of relevant content to the page with my keyword wrapped in relevant text and the link juice and trust passes almost exactly the same as if the domain were "relevant". Remember, IP diversity is huge in this post panda environment too.

"postulating" LOL, these are big words for a knuckle dragging mouth breather like myself. As a matter of fact, I think I just postulated on my keyboard. Sorry for the rant but sick and tired of hearing people's propoganda in an industry that NONE of us truly know a damn thing about except for what we test ourselves and apply, still, it's all theory. But if theory works for you, by all means.

I have tried this:

Bought new emd domain.
Created index.html with spinned content containing my keyword along the paragraphs.
Ping it and wait for it to be indexed.
Blasted lots of xrumer and scrapebox links on it, using the new domain + diff anchor text
After 3-5 days, the new emd domain, shows itself on page 1

My main money site was on rank 11
When new emd domain shows itself on page 1, i setup the 301 redirect
so, when you visit the new emd, it will redirect to the main money site

after 2 days,
the main money site was #1
the new emd was still on page 1.. rank #8

after 2 days,
the new emd was still on page 1, so basically I occupy 2 slots on the front page

then slowly the new emd disappear on the serps
it was then deindexed from google

though until now my main site was still #1 =)

Thanks for posting this - it is always good to see some tried and tested results.

One question. When you decided to redirect the emd to the money site did you have both domains (money site and EMD) registered in webmaster tools? I have seen mixed results from using this technique with domains registered in WMT and then changing the settings so that g00gle is aware of the change vs ones which are not in WMT's....

awesome03 said:

I have tried this:

Bought new emd domain.
Created index.html with spinned content containing my keyword along the paragraphs.
Ping it and wait for it to be indexed.
Blasted lots of xrumer and scrapebox links on it, using the new domain + diff anchor text
After 3-5 days, the new emd domain, shows itself on page 1

My main money site was on rank 11
When new emd domain shows itself on page 1, i setup the 301 redirect
so, when you visit the new emd, it will redirect to the main money site

after 2 days,
the main money site was #1
the new emd was still on page 1.. rank #8

after 2 days,
the new emd was still on page 1, so basically I occupy 2 slots on the front page

then slowly the new emd disappear on the serps
it was then deindexed from google

though until now my main site was still #1 =)

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jon_xx_x said:

I wonder how it would effect my situation.
I have bigmoneysite.com and hundreds of pages of content.
I have about 50 EMDs set up.
Roughly 1/3 - 1/2 of them are ranked #1 for their keyword.
I wonder if I 301'd all those EMDs to my money site if I would be ranking #1 for all those keywords still. And I wonder if that would be a redflag for google?

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Yes, it would probably do just that. I saw a video with our friend the anal master himself (cutts) stating that if your only link building consisted of redirected domains this would throw up indicators to them. It will be down to how many links and the diversity of your current site as to how many reditects it could cope with without flagging - if you already have 10k backlinks from 7k unique domains you could probably get away with quite a few of them but if the proportions are low vs redirects expect to get spanked

takeachance said:

Thanks for posting this - it is always good to see some tried and tested results.

One question. When you decided to redirect the emd to the money site did you have both domains (money site and EMD) registered in webmaster tools? I have seen mixed results from using this technique with domains registered in WMT and then changing the settings so that g00gle is aware of the change vs ones which are not in WMT's....

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No. The new emd wasn't added to WMT.

The main site was on WMT though.