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[QUESTION] Buy GSA or UD?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO Tools' started by okharter, Jan 18, 2013.

  1. okharter

    okharter Junior Member

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    Which software do your recommend between GSA and UD? I can afford either of them. In what ways (apart from lower price) is GSA better than UD or vice versa?

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  2. mikeydell

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    I own both but honestly it would be hard for me to tell you buy one or the other. My reasoning for this is the fact that they are both have different things you can do with them. I like GSA just because of the ease of using it, basically it's a set and forget it tool, but Ultimate demon gives you more control over everything. If you having a hard time choosing between the two, I would say just go with magic submitter. I own that as well and SEnuke, Xrumer etc. But honestly between all the software out there magic submitter wins my favorite award :)
     
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  3. JasonS

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    I always recommend magic submitter and gsa. Create quality backlinks as tier1 with MS, export links through link manager and import them to GSA for diversification.
     
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    loads16017 Power Member

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    I think GSA. it has more control than UD
     
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  5. okharter

    okharter Junior Member

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    Thanks for your reply. Does GSA post to web 2.0 sites? I know most of the web 2.0 sites that UD posts to are no follow.
     
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    Hey Jason, thanks for your reply. I've been thinking about MS but what puts me off is the monthly payment. Wish they had a one-time fee like GSA. Do you have experience with UD? How does it compare to MS?
     
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    Yes GSA does post to web2.0's Basically GSA will post to all the same sites that SEnuke,magic submitter etc will all post to, as well as others. Overall if your just looking for a easy set and forget program, than yes you cant go wrong with GSA. I just purchased there Captcha breaker and running it with GSA and LOVING IT! lol, running at 85% solve rate, at this rate it will have paid for itself in 3 days:)
     
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    GSA is the best
     
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    since when?

    I havent used either recently but GSA didnt have nearly as many high pr "well known" web 2's as Magic, and that was only a month or so ago
     
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    Ultimate Demon is better for tier 1 links, GSA SER - for tier 2-3.
     
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  11. eline

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    UD is better if you need control. GSA settings are not working correct. You can choose >PR4 and it will add to PR=0, You can choose not more than 10 links, and you get links on spam with 3k other comments. For T1 this soft is lottery.
     
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  12. okharter

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    Thanks Black. Are the web 2.0 lists in UD follow or no follow?
     
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    The cust0m coded sites are mostly D0follow. Wordpress.com, tumblr, blogger, IO, soup, delicious .....
    The "cookie cutter" or open source sites (user added) have a lot of nofollow in them though the devs add quite a few d0follow as well.
    It's possible to make a tier one with 50+ d0follow only sites with a pr of 2 or greater, thenuse the rest as tier 2, and say bookmarks and forums as tier 3
    Having said that GSA is excellent for tier 2 and has even ranked some sites of mine in its own. UD gives you real control. You only post on the exact sites you want to and havoing so many custom coded sites, and interfacing with some other great tools and services really helps.

    Most of the sites below cannot be posted to by tools that just post to open source platforms - and this is the real power of products like UD and Nuke. On top of the list here, the devs have included many none standard article and wiki sites. D0f0ll0w wiki with pr's up to 5 - article sites with PRs up to 7 d0f0ll0w again) for best practice add these into the mix.
    Add your own Elgg, Jcom and the 2 new WEB2 open source platforms added at Christmas and it should be easy to make a tier one with 100 sites of a minimum PR of 2 or greater and 90% d0f0ll0w (again - some n0follow is very advisable and does add a positive benefit in serps though of course not in page rank aggregation)

    Goolge bots do actually follow "nofollow" - but they take no "PR juice" with them. Zero nofollow links in a big direct linking tier raises the "obvious self promotion" flag at Google "spam central" also a first tier that is made of nothing but "WEB20" sites is also a red flag of self promotion Variation is more than just about "anchor text".

    Anyway here's a list of some of the custom coded, high PR d0follow sites in UD and NUke post to that most other tools can't (because every one requires it's own unique "one off" posting script)

    ALL D0FOLLOW UNLESS OTHERWISE STATED

    Stumbleupon PR8
    Reddit PR8
    Linkarena PR7
    Jumptags PR7
    Folkd PR7
    Fark PR7
    Delicious PR7
    Blinklist PR7
    Bibsonomy PR7
    OneView PR6
    LinkaGoGo PR6
    BookmarkWorld PR6
    Wordpress.Com (not the opensource.org article script - which of course UD also has - but the WEB2 blogging site) PR9
    Tumblr PR8
    My.Opera PR8
    Bravenet PR7 (a no follow - but hey there has to be a few)
    Newsvine PR7
    AreaVoices PR6
    DailyStrength PR6
    En.Netblog PR6
    Blog PR6 Blog UK PR6
    SpringNote PR5
    Soup.IO PR5
    Thoughts PR5
    The Free Library PR7
    SelfGrowth PR7
    EzineArticles PR6 (only profiles now D0follow)
    ISnare PR5
    ArticleTrader PR5
    ArticleSnatch PR5
    HealthWikipilipinas PR5 D0follow WIKI (yup hi PR d0follow WIKI's exist and UD has quite a few of them) FirstWIki PR5 Capweb PR5 and more

    These are just the sites PR5 or higher. There are lots more PR1-4 as well as...well as many moreas you want to add on the open source platforms.

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  14. SamTheMan26

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    That is absolute BS. Sorry. But you can set each and every detail within GSA SER and I would say that it is not the tools fault if you cannot use the tool correctly. You set a maximum OBL limit or a PR limit, you can say to only post to ******** sites, or you can say only post to sites with a domain PR of or a subdomain PR of or a page PR of and so much more.
    Show me one other tool out there with so many features, updated that often, that gives you so much control over your campaigns.

    Of course SEN or UD or even MS let you build better Tier 1 links but everything else GSA SER is the king at the moment and if Sven (the developer) kepps up the good work it is is going to be the king for quite some time. Now that they have added Captcha Breaker to their line of tools it is even better.
     
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    Thanks for the list of sites with PR showing. That is allot of do follow links. Do follow links are what will rank you higher in the search engine. I think mostly do follow high PR links and contextual links is what will get you higher in the search engines easy peasy. You just have to be sure to make unique content not spun content so you do not get penalized in the search engines.
     
  16. eline

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    Ohhh man, so they are better for T1 (what I wrote), but ... ;)

    Did you look at links created with this settings or you talk about settings? I know what settings SER have. Im talking about links created in project where settings are as follow PR4, not more than 10 BL and I have a lot of links in project where this settings are missed. So first try to set up project and then check where your links are with other tools like SB and try to recognize if criteria was correct ;)

    BTW SER is great software, but for T1 UD is better :p
     
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  17. irmscher

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    If choosing from these 2 I would go for GSA SER since it's one time payment. But be careful with this software, it can be a disaster in the wrong hands lol.
     
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    However there is a better IP diversity with GSA. I tested GSA for some time and I found that it is not 100% ideal for Tier 1 links because even with all the setting set-up properly, tier 1 links are sometimes made on site profiles and I do not like that and sometimes links are added twice and after the article (I think only 1 platform -dolphine)

    There should be a Tier 1 mode, which would build links from article only and disable ocassional double links adding. I am probably a bit paranoid as for now google probably doesn't have any problem with profile links.

    Having said that a lot of sites ranks for some really competitive terms like medical ones viagra, phen375 and many other using web 2.0 sites, wicked article creator or something like that and GSA search engine ranker without the tier1 mode.
     
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    I would choose GSA. It works more efficiently.
     
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    GSA is a great tool and well worth the one off cost (UD is a one off fee as well - but a fair bit more)
    Fot the quality Nuke. MS etc post to CUSTOM CODED sites PLUS all the decent cookie cutter sites GSA posts to.
    I have GSA (I sell it, i create tutorials for it). Nuke, and UD developers keep on top of loads of good third party open source platforms PLUS dozens (maybe 100 custom coded sites - i.e one specific script that posts to one high ranking high PR high traffic site ONLY)

    For instance, UD posts to all of these listed below - (you can add as many as you like) HOWEVER this list is all "open source" platforms.
    It's power is that it ALSO posts to the list I put about 6 entries back which are all CUSTOM CODED sites (and there are lot more than the ones I list)
    When I'm creating my direct links I don't really want trackbacks, guestbooks, pingbacks..at least not very many (very few) they aren't good enough, they are transient and they are empty - without content/context. Same goes for too many directories as well.

    I want to KNOW that I can create a first tier with 100 sites that allow context sensitive links with content on profiles

    100% I can post to multple times (single shot WEB2's, WIKIs and Articles on high PR sites often get deleted as spam. - the more you post on each profile the better - this also allows for deep linking)
    90% with a PR of 2 or greater
    90% with d0follow
    I'll want at least 30 different platforms (not site..platforms)

    If I can't guarantee those metrics before I even start a campaign I don't start. With Nuke I can do this, with GSA I can't - I can't even get close.


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