Q. Why should I go to the BHW / IRL conference?

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LOL at the broke arses inventing conspiracy theories to mask their poverty. I doubt I will make it to vegas due to work commitments but congratulations for laying on a top rate conference that brings BHW into a new era of professionalism.

For the record I know guys who spend that much on tennis club membership in the hope of meeting someone of influence in the dressing rooms. If you cant see the value in the ticket price then its not for you.

Word on the street is skyrocketseo is doing a guest turn...that has to be worth the admission on its own.
 
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For the price issue, the price isn't so much the price of the ticket.

It's that it's in Vegas which is expensive as fuck to stay in

I don't mean to sound rude. Have you been to Vegas before? It's one of the cheapest destinations in the US.

For the record I know guys who spend that much on tennis club membership in the hope of meeting someone of influence in the dressing rooms.

Ha! People actually still do that? That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
 
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THANK YOU akacash. Finally! A positive post from someone who 'gets it'. There is hope! This conference is costing a bloody fortune and had a conceptual idea from appeasing the community of this forum. As I said before go get a hour with any of these world leading / totally inspiring IM gurus for less money. Dream on. Plus we're giving you 30+ speakers under one roof plus the space to network and mix with your forum friends erm somewhere that isn't in a pub in a backstreet of far flung Bmby it's at friggin Caesar's Palace! You'll get more in real life than months of internet reading and routes to quicker success. Work it out for yourselves, do some addition and then think about how positive it is to attend our conference. All future naive opinions will be addressed accordingly. Again THANK YOU akacash.

I'm not going to pick on anyone specifically, but if you think that all you get for your money is to hear a few speakers you're probably not going to make it very far in IM. You need to think about a few things before firing off your useless posts that add no value. First off, since you don't value the speakers and any of their experiences we'll take them out of it. Let's just say it's $1,000 to attend, and nothing was offered, here's just a couple of reasons you'd want to consider attending.

The biggest was already mentioned, it's NETWORKING. That's one of the biggest parts of working online. Who you know, and what you have access to can often determine how far you'll make it, especially if you're still getting started. The key is to network with good people that can actually help and are able to take action, not a bunch of talkers that have all the ideas in the world, but no clue on how to put them in play.

This is a good time to bring in the pricing/cost. If it were me, I would want to be able to meet and talk with the most qualified people possible, who wouldn't? Well, if the price to attend was $50 you would obviously see 10x the amount of people that would attend. That's great except what's the overall quality of those people? At that cheap of a cost, anyone can afford to attend, so your chances are hooking up with someone that can really help you is much much slimmer. By pricing it higher you attract a higher quality of person to attend because as those above me said "it's too expensive" for the average person to go. In theory, most people that went to this would be people that could afford to, and therefore would be much more likely to have a successful operation going. Since those are the type of people you would be hoping to meet there the higher cost works to your advantage.

You also need to consider the costs involved with putting an event together and hosting it at a place like Ceaser's Palace. You're talking about renting out rooms in a major casino during peak business days over a weekend. Speakers also don't just volunteer their time for free. There's a lot of things that go into the price that's quoted and if you took a few minutes to analyze that you'd see that it's not any kind of a rip-off or waste of money what-so-ever. I'm not saying it's the steal of the year either, but the way you guys just throw out these nonsense negative posts without any valid reasoning is just flaming and isn't useful to anyone. You're paying for an experience and maybe even some new contacts to help you in the future. Good luck with it though to the OP, I may even consider going myself as I've been wanting to start attending some meetups like this to start meeting more people.
 
If you think this is being done for any other reason than milking the BHW community you are deluded.

That seems like a cynical POV. Some of the most profitable industries in the world use non-profits to run their conferences.

I feel you in that conferences can seem very pointless bc their results feel unquantifiable. It is very easy to attend and get nothing out of it, but if you end up starting a very successful endeavor after pairing your skills with another IM'er, what is the value of that? How about applying a new technique you learned in an expert talk? Tens of thousands? Hundreds of thousands over your lifetime?

From my experience in another industry, conferences can be extremely valuable if you attend with purpose.
 
It's been said already, but anyone lambasting the conference or tossing about cloak-and-daggery accusations really doesn't get why a person would attend one of these things in the first place.

If you've got chops and some business savvy, just one good connection at a conference like this could mean tens of thousands, even more, down the line. Do you think anyone is going just for the speakers? Frankly, I couldn't care less who was speaking, and I would likely only attend the lectures/workshops if it were really convenient for me. Instead, I'd be there to make deals.

Partnerships, jv's, investments - that's my game. And if you've got your head in the right place it should be your game, too.

Red
 
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I remember when I used to visit London for the BHW meetings which Meathead organized, back then I have spent several thousands just to come there, sleep in a hotel, eat something in between and attend the 3-4 hour meeting.

I meet OxonBeef, Meathead, spend some time with my mate Shakil and meet a couple of really good guys.
Was it worth the money? Definitely.

It is one thing when you read something on the forum, and a completely different thing when you are sitting with the same person with a beer in your hand and discuss it properly.

If you are a full time IM-er, if you are looking for networking, then you are not "spending" this money, you are investing it in to your own knowledge and an experience which will hold for a lifetime.
 
I'm getting more inspired! I knew the cream would rise to the top. As we all know opinions are like arseholes, every has got one! When it comes to expressing opinions 75% of people love to bitch about something, its rare for someone to actively praise something. Those of us involved in this conference have worked our balls off for 12 months already in an attempt to give this forum what it wants. Children bitchin over petty issues is beyond belief so thanks to those of you with some brains. Respect to those like you Duffers5000. Appreciated.

LOL at the broke arses inventing conspiracy theories to mask their poverty. I doubt I will make it to vegas due to work commitments but congratulations for laying on a top rate conference that brings BHW into a new era of professionalism.

For the record I know guys who spend that much on tennis club membership in the hope of meeting someone of influence in the dressing rooms. If you cant see the value in the ticket price then its not for you.

Word on the street is skyrocketseo is doing a guest turn...that has to be worth the admission on its own.
 
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Are tickets transferable in the event I can't make it?
Sorry question answered in another thread.
 
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Everyone who is able must go to this event, I know it will be fantastic.
 
HALLELUJAH Red! We're frazzled from all the effort of putting this event out there. Everyone should benefit. Those who don't 'get it' should stop moaning as it certainly does highlight a massive amount of naivety in business and a total lack of respect towards the owners of BHW. Nothing in life is free and this forum is about everyone making money. If these moaners cannot afford to come to this conference well....

It's been said already, but anyone lambasting the conference or tossing about cloak-and-daggery accusations really doesn't get why a person would attend one of these things in the first place.

If you've got chops and some business savvy, just one good connection at a conference like this could mean tens of thousands, even more, down the line. Do you think anyone is going just for the speakers? Frankly, I couldn't care less who was speaking, and I would likely only attend the lectures/workshops if it were really convenient for me. Instead, I'd be there to make deals.

Partnerships, jv's, investments - that's my game. And if you've got your head in the right place it should be your game, too.

Red
 
I can't believe some people got drawn in by Chris22's post. He's known to post controversial BS, that's all he ever posts. I noticed this ages ago and added him to my ignore list. The best thing to do is to ignore him and don't respond to him. He constantly seeks attention by posting something he knows others will have a strong disagreement to. He's a troll, but not just any troll, he's the type of troll that's not funny but provoking. He likes to thing he's an upstanding member of this community, he thinks he's superior to everyone else and posts as if he's all knowing in every single topic of discussion.

His BS has gone on long enough and I'm surprised he's still part of this community, well I tell a lie, I'm not surprised at all, he snidely chose a particular White Titled Mod to brown nose, because this Mod is an influential character on this forum Chris22 has gotten away with the crap he posts.

The solution is to add him to your ignore list and to scroll down whenever you see a post made by him.

Anyway, back on topic...
 
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It might be too expensive for some people but then again its like that with everything in life. If its not in your budget dont blame other people for it. Me personally I see it as an investment. Meeting the right people has a value that cant be measured with any money. Most people are just not smart enough to understand this. Usually the same people who will not come very far in life. Anyway thats just my two cents.
 
To be brutally honest if money is the issue then you're not ready.
If your IM skills were at a level where networking with heavy hitters was going to take you
to the next level then money would not be the issue.
I've seen it on meetups and I get messaged on Skype everyday.
Just because you are there it doesn't guarantee you to make money.
You have to be able to bring something to the table yourself too.
And I don't mean having scrapebox, GSA or some other tool, I'm
talking about the ability to formulate and execute long term plans
and goals..
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I really can't understand people's passion on throwing shit on what others are building.

IRL wants to explain how great an event will be. It can cost 300, 900 or 5000 it doesn't even matter too much. It's his and their choice so I can't understand why some think that saying: "I will not pay 1k to hear people speaking" would add any value to the discussion.

Buddhist have a say: If you can't do good at least don't do bad.

I will not go either because it's far and to get American VISA is a pain in the ass, but the value of networking with smart people can add amazing benefits to your business. If you see IM as a business. If you are looking to shoot some quick $500/month with PPD by spamming an Youtube video, the conference has no value for you. ( Let's be clear: I don't have anything against people doing PPD).

We must respect each other more.
 
I can't believe some people got drawn in by Chris22's post. He's known to post controversial BS, that's all he ever posts. I noticed this ages ago and added him to my ignore list. The best thing to do is to ignore him and don't respond to him. He constantly seeks attention by posting something he knows others will have a strong disagreement to. He's a troll, but not just any troll, he's the type of troll that's not funny but provoking. He likes to thing he's an upstanding member of this community, he thinks he's superior to everyone else and posts as if he's all knowing in every single topic of discussion.

His BS has gone on long enough and I'm surprised he's still part of this community, well I tell a lie, I'm not surprised at all, he snidely chose a particular White Titled Mod to brown nose, because this Mod is an influential character on this forum Chris22 has gotten away with the crap he posts.

The solution is to add him to your ignore list and to scroll down whenever you see a post made by him.

Anyway, back on topic...

I wondered how long it would take you to show up ^_^ the controversial BS you talk about is a handful of posts at best. I don't know why you have such a hard-on for me, you make it sound like I'm hitler. This thread is not the place for you to bring up your personal vendetta. But don't worry, I'll send you a valentines card next year.

Money is not my issue, my issue is that (in my eyes) you've taken something the BHW community was starting to do anyway (London meetups, Goa meetup) and turned it into a product to line these IRL.info guys pockets, whoever they are. I'm open to change my view of course, but I'm struggling to see it from a perspective other than that. Sorry if I rustled any of your jimmys guys, perhaps I should have been clearer. Sorry if my tone was out of line, I don't want to cause friction, contrary to what themoneywizard believes..
 
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I wondered how long it would take you to show up ^_^

Money is not my issue, my issue is that (in my eyes) you've taken something the BHW community was starting to do anyway (London meetups, Goa meetup) and turned it into a product to line these IRL.info guys pockets, whoever they are. I'm open to change my view of course, but I'm struggling to see it from a perspective other than that. Sorry if I rustled any of your jimmys guys, perhaps I should have been clearer. Sorry if my tone was out of line, I don't want to cause friction, contrary to what themoneywizard believes..


AFAIK IRL.info is owned by Damien so it makes sense that a BHW conference would be organised by one of his companies.
 
why wouldny you go? if you can learn so much on this forum image what you learn when you met up in person. plus its a great way to ear hustle and find out what works and what not
 
AFAIK IRL.info is owned by Damien so it makes sense that a BHW conference would be organised by one of his companies.

If this is true, consider my criticism revoked.

Thanks
 
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If it was in my budget I would be there in a heartbeat..just imagine all the networking you can do. Hell even if you are new to IM you just may find someone to mentor you &help take you to the next level.
 
@Chris22 Happy to confirm It's our event, we've made it very clear (I thought) that this is a BHW approved and run conference http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...hw-conference-2014-tickets-available-now.html

IRL organise the food, hotels and the bits required for IM'ers to descend on Vegas. Learn more about IRL here

BHW organise the speakers, schedule, themes, tracks, approve the exhibitors, sell the tickets etc etc.

It's all for the benefit of BHW the profits are going to be fed back into the BHW community.

If this is true, consider my criticism revoked.

Thanks
 
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