Productivity Journey with Nootropics

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@Duffers, Thanks man took me a while to get the design the way I wanted it!

Going to be stocking a whole range of products in the not so distant future, Just testing the market at the moment & finding quality suppliers who arent all fakes is tough as I try my own product so i know whats legit or not.
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@Subster i really appreciate your purchase, let me know if you make a repeat order and I will give you a deal.
 
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I knew that Noopept wouldn't have any major effects. It seemed a bit hyped up on eBay. Still the Journey made a good read :) I am about to try something one up from Noopept ;)
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So using statistical analysis of 2 people on a forum that didnt use/post any quantifiable data means its just a dud?... Also, nooptropics have varying effects on people at varying doses. I was doing "attack" dosing of piracetam (6g daily) and also standard (2g) with no noticeable affects. Others say it was like an acid trip from them or in 3rd person. So while noopept may not have worked for them one of the other racetams could. It's why I'm going to be getting three and have a fourth (the piracetam) available. Fifth if you want to count the Alpha GPC as a racetam. When/if I do order, I'll actually do daily cognitive tests and get a baseline a week beforehand. If they work it should have some measurable impact on tests. If not, then they wont :P
 
@Zapdos, I find the noopept I take has certainly improved my mental abilities, Like I am so much more productive in the day its unreal. I feel like it is in no way a placebo effect, I feel like different people react to different substances. I would never Over-Load like you are describing above, rather stick to what has been advised, Attacks like 6g daily is a bit nuts and used more for a "high" effect, no?
 
thanks for your input all.
will start again today and look about the productivity.
thing is, i started so much new hobbies in the last two weeks and am consistently working on all of them ( new language, daily 1-2 hours workout, martial arts & writing ) but i really never thought that this was a noopept effect. i was user of many little helpers years ago in the wild and hedonistic 90s so perhaps i expected a more "dazed" or obvious "turn".
@beej: feedback for you shop btw: it was a nice and smooth customer journey, even on ipad. the shipping was pretty quick and it arrived after 2 days from uk to germany.
 
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So using statistical analysis of 2 people on a forum that didnt use/post any quantifiable data means its just a dud?... Also, nooptropics have varying effects on people at varying doses. I was doing "attack" dosing of piracetam (6g daily) and also standard (2g) with no noticeable affects. Others say it was like an acid trip from them or in 3rd person. So while noopept may not have worked for them one of the other racetams could. It's why I'm going to be getting three and have a fourth (the piracetam) available. Fifth if you want to count the Alpha GPC as a racetam. When/if I do order, I'll actually do daily cognitive tests and get a baseline a week beforehand. If they work it should have some measurable impact on tests. If not, then they wont :P
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Well as you say it has different effects on different people. Everyone reacts differently. However if you Google Noopept its not hard to find lots of negative reviews. For a great majority of people it has little to no effect. And for other people its just placebo. But I see the point your making, each to their own. If Nootropics work for you then fair enough, but for me I have yet to find a Nootropic that has any noticeable effect :)
 
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@Zapdos, I find the noopept I take has certainly improved my mental abilities, Like I am so much more productive in the day its unreal. I feel like it is in no way a placebo effect, I feel like different people react to different substances. I would never Over-Load like you are describing above, rather stick to what has been advised, Attacks like 6g daily is a bit nuts and used more for a "high" effect, no?
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For me it was for nothing in the end. Piracetam didnt do anything. I did that dosing to see if I would get an effect out of it rather than for extended uses. Usually piracetam is only attack dosed in the beggining for ~4 days or less and at 3x dosage amount to get a noticeable effect and your body used to it.

If Nootropics work for you then fair enough, but for me I have yet to find a Nootropic that has any noticeable effect
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Piracetam is considered the mildest
Aniracetam above that
Oxiracetam
Pramiracetam
noopept
sunifram (like piracetam just alot more effective and extremely small doses.)

Of course you should use helpers like I posted above (alpha gpc, CDP Choline, choline bitarte, fish oil) to make it more noticeable. Some of racetams deplete choline like its crack so without having supplements it may not do anything afaik.


Edit: sunifram is the latest on the market (~2000) with little human testing. I'd be very careful with dosing that as you use micrograms to measure that one. Its thousands of times more potent than piracetam.
 
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Well, decided to go through with the stack. On order:

Oxiracetam - Powder. Will be measuring using the most scientific possible tool. My palm.
Pramiracetam - 60x 300mg capsules.
Noopept - 60x 10mg oral gels
Alpha GPC - 60x 300mg caps
L-theanine - 60x 200mg caps (on recommendation of someone else)
2:1 DHA:EPA Fish oil - x180 500:250mg caps

Not quite related:
I'm a vampire. The sun is my enemy and I get tan lines from my LCD monitor. So 90x 5000IU vitamin D pills to make up for the lack of sunlight lol
I eat horribly. NOW ADAM multivitamin to make myself feel like I'm trying to be more healthy.


I'll start on baseline cognitive tests tomorrow.

@OP: Your thread is now mine. Thanks :P Unless of course you want me to gtfo and I'll just make a new thread.
 
No Problem, buddy - go ahead. My threads are public domain.
 
Starting of base tests. I'm using http://www.cambridgebrainsciences.com as my platform of choice for seeing if anything increases or helps with reasoning/mental capacity. Since there are so many tests I'll only use a few.

Test name - Test for - Result (may be multiple for multiple times.) - AVG: ##

Double trouble - Reasoning - 42 - 47 - 44 - 47 - 45 - AVG: 45
Monkey Ladder - Memory - 8 - 8 - 8 - 8 - 8 - AVG: 8
Rotations - Concentration - 146 - 108 - 87* - 157 - 144 - 144 - AVG*: 131 - AVG: 139.8 . The reason why 87 is starred is because I started to not care and guessed. It tanked my score. So I did an additional test to make up for it. AVG* is with guesses, AVG without.
Spatial search - Spatial Planning (Memory/planning) - 7- 7 - 7 - 8 - 8 - AVG: 7.4
Grammatical Reasoning - Reasoning - 25 - 30 - 29 - 20 - 24 - AVG: 25.6

Edited: Added in "Grammatical Reasoning" test. I actually find it quite fun and challenging.
 
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Not quite 24 hours apart, dont know when I'll have time and im quite tired.

Double trouble - Reasoning - 60 - 70 - 64 - 60 - 59 - AVG: 62.2 (up from 45)
Monkey Ladder - Memory - 10 - 8 - 9 - 7 - 8 - AVG: 8.4 (up from 8)
Rotations - Concentration - 165 - 131 - 115 - 87 - 157 - AVG: 131 (down from 139.9). May have been lower due to anxiety or me being tired... meh.
Spatial search - Spatial planning (memory/planning) - 9 - 8 - 9 - 7 - 7 - AVG: 8 (no change)
Grammatical Reasoning - Reasoning - 30 - 25 - 23 - 29 - 27 - AVG: 26.8 (up from 25.6)
 
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Hey guys any of you know where to get Provogil or modafnil ? i've been interested in this thing for quite a while but it's quite hard to find a decent webstore that accept any legit payment system (paypal , etc. ) . Most of them are crappy indian website with review like " i ordered once and my credit card number got stolen 15 days after receiving the order".

This + the fact that i'm french and that all those drugs are illegal here and are considered " real " drugs i don't want to take a risk with any crappy webshop :/ . any idea ?

The guy webshop on this topic seems only to sell nootropic which i'm not interested at all in.
 
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thomtin said:
Hey guys any of you know where to get Provogil or modafnil ? i've been interested in this thing for quite a while but it's quite hard to find a decent webstore that accept any legit payment system (paypal , etc. ) . Most of them are crappy indian website with review like " i ordered once and my credit card number got stolen 15 days after receiving the order".

This + the fact that i'm french and that all those drugs are illegal here and are considered " real " drugs i don't want to take a risk with any crappy webshop :/ . any idea ?

The guy webshop on this topic seems only to sell nootropic which i'm not interested at all in.
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Just helping anyone that comes by, not specifically you since I'd be advocating breaking your countries laws. So, if anyone in a country that its not illegal in and wants to buy modafinil:
http://www.modup.net/
https://mymodafinil.net/
http://www.gwern.net/Modafinil#suppliers-prices

Also, I dont actually recommend them. It's the recommended list from Reddit.
 
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Not tired today and feeling fairly alert. I dont get any tracking numbers for either of my orders so no idea when its coming in :|

Double trouble - Reasoning - 78 - 73 - 63 - 71 - 73 - AVG: 71.6 (up from 62.2) | The 63 was lower than expected due to anxiety. The music is really loud so when I hit a wrong answer it really throws me off and then the count down... Turned sound off for the last 2.
Monkey Ladder - Memory - 8 - 8 - 8 - 9 - 8 - AVG: 8.2 (down from 8.4) | I think 8 is my limit. Anything over is luck/easy locations.
Rotations - Concentration - 170 - 170 - 124* - 151 - 166 - AVG: 156.2 (up from 131) | * May have been due to anxiety again. As I go through these tests, the more times I get something wrong the more pressure I'm under to get the next one right. It throws me off alot. Not doing a remake.
Spatial search - Spatial planning (memory/planning) - 9 - 7 - 8 - 9 - 9 - AVG: 8.4 (up from 8)
Grammatical reasoning - Reasoning - 29 - 27 - 27 - 25 - 28 - AVG: 27.2 (up from 26.8)


I think now that I'm used to these tests, the scores above will be the normal.
 
Just woke up, still no noops :(

Double trouble - Reasoning - 60 - 75 - 75 - 65 - 66 - AVG: 68.2 (down from 71.2)
Monkey ladder - Memory - 9 - 8 - 8 - X - X - No longer doing these until noops arrive. 8 is my minimum and my maximum. Just wasting my time doing this.
Rotations - Concentration - 142 - 110 - 87 - 133 - 144 - AVG: 123.2 (down from 131). Yay frustrations.
Spatial search - Spatial planning (memory/planning) - 8 - 9 - 7 - 9 - 7 - AVG: 8 (down from 8.4)
Grammatical reasoning - Reasoning - 25 - 29 - 26 - 27 - 27 - AVG: 26.8 (down from 27.2)


I need my caffeine.
 
Had my caffeine, been awake a little bit.

Double trouble - Reasoning - 84 - 86 - 73 - 78 - 69 - AVG: 78 (up from 68.2). Anxiety on the last one to try and top 86 :( Though I do score within the top 0.1% on this test now
Rotations - Concentration - 170 - 132 - 125 - 120 - 184 - AVG: 146.2 (up from 123.2) I think my anxiety level influences this one alot. If I fuck up on an early rotation it just snowballs. Then the subsequent tests also suffer and so on... Last one I was able to get past all of it. Top 1%.
Spatial search - 10 - 8 - 8 - 9 - 8 - AVG: 8.6
Grammatical Reasoning - Reasoning - 30 - 32 - 30 - 28 - 27 - AVG: 29.4 (up from 26.8)


Noops just arrived as I was typing this up. Will be doing noopept + alpha-gpc + fish oil to start. Do a few days on that then add in either prami or oxi with l-theanine and then finalize with whichever racetam I didnt go with before.
 
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I've been interested in Nootropics for some time now. BTW, great detailed updates.
 
Hey guys, I am doing noopept (10 mg) and citicoline (30 mg) stacked.

It works brilliantly for me and the effects wear off in 2 hours. For 2 tablets taken sublingually.

But the main problem is that I have acne and whenever I take the combo, I can feel the acne just erupting on my face. It gets better after 4 days later with medication.

Do you guys think it is the citicoline? Someone in this thread talked about the mood swings and it could be affecting my acne. I am also taking medication for my acne as well.

Would pramaceteram make a difference?


Thank you all,
Mo
 
Not particularly feeling anything from the noopept that is just "noticeable". May have higher scores eventually but im not feeling like god. May have helped with work or not, can't say for sure as I've been doing 19 hours workdays for sometime now.

Did 2x 10mg noopept sublingually, 500/250 fish oil, 300mg alpha gpc.


But the main problem is that I have acne and whenever I take the combo, I can feel the acne just erupting on my face. It gets better after 4 days later with medication.

Do you guys think it is the citicoline? Someone in this thread talked about the mood swings and it could be affecting my acne. I am also taking medication for my acne as well.

Would pramaceteram make a difference?
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Depends on what is causing it. Stress/anxiety can cause acne, but so can poor hygiene and bad genetics.
One way to find out is to stop taking the choline. If the problems lessen then it is that and you can substitute with alpha gpc or choline bitarte. If its not that, stop taking noopept and if it stops then it would be the noop.
 
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Double trouble - Reasoning - 82 - 79 - 63 - 70 - 77 - AVG: 74.2 (down from 78)
Rotations - Concentration - 176 - 141 - 198 - 159 - 169 - AVG: 168.8 (up from 146.2)


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