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Private Whois - Footprint?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by deepblack, Jul 29, 2014.

  1. deepblack

    deepblack Regular Member

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    Hi,

    it is always recommended among PBN'ers to hide the owner with privacy whois settings.

    If you just used those kinds of domains for your money sites wouldn't these rise flags and
    finally cause a penalty?
     
  2. radiant13

    radiant13 Power Member

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    Mix it up to be safe. Get some web 2.0 links, etc., to get more variety.
     
  3. SteveWaller

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    I personally use privacy over fake details because I run an actual company and all of those domains are owned by the company. Besides, there are tens of millions of domains that use privacy and there are plenty of legitimate reasons to do so - such as preventing spam to your registered email address or your physical address. This is one area where I believe the footprint is simply something I have to live with but I don't worry too much about it especially if you diversify with other backlinks like the previous answer alluded to.
     
  4. deepblack

    deepblack Regular Member

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    ok, so just building links with privacy enabled would be dangerous then.
     
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    JournoNick Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Using one strategy won't get you far in any type of marketing. Making fake who is information is fraud at the end f the day and will only lead to drama. Also you need to diversify your links: comment on some blogs and give useful information, create some web 2.0 links, create a special need for a press release, do some guest blogging to receive no-follow links, try and find some people asking about the product you sell in Q&A forums. Mix things up a bit and you'll be surprised how the authority of a website can skyrocket.
     
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    If your website has backlinks coming only from sites with their whois details hidden, Google might suspect you of link manipulation, that's why it's always recommended that you get a variety of link types, not just PBN links.

    So as the PBN whois privacy enabled sites are linking to your site, other links from web 2.0 sites, guest posts, blog comments, etc. will also be pointing to your site from mostly domains without whois privacy, thus diversifing your link profile.
     
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    A good mix of fake names, private whois and different registrars is the way to go, you don't want to have every site linking to you with private whois, that in itself is a footprint.

    I have found http://www.fakenamegenerator.com/ to be very good as it generates complete fake ID's including names, addresses and phone numbers that match each other.
     
  9. Laubster

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    The guys at NoHatSEO and Glenn at ViperChill tested this and said they got better results with fake WHOIS info versus privacy. It makes sense, the only people blocking WHOIS are maybe celebrities / high profile corporations and SEO's.
     
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    Bingo! Why block them when you can give them something to think about. ;)
     
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    No, Lots of people use privacy protection to keep their domains safe from hackers. If you dont have PP there is chance that your domain may get hijack.
     
  12. Windmm

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    Can Google find your PBN via the Who is?
     
  13. deepblack

    deepblack Regular Member

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    the question is:

    are there any known cases where a pbn on different hosting accounts but always the same whois data caused a penalty?
     
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    topd0g Newbie

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    Seems to be a lot of debate here, and the facts are not one size fits all, I mix mine up to keep it diverse ie fake and privacy, is someone really gonna check to see if my details are correct? I doubt it - but PBN I make sure all are 100% private
     
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    Well said OP. ...
     
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    The questions itself leads to a concern that you probably need to spend time more on securing your PBN and worry less about Google. The only mantra to have a successful PBN is diversity and not have same characteristics on all your participating sites within it, whether its whois, cms, permalinks whatever.....