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PPD vs CPA

Discussion in 'CPA' started by keyex, Nov 22, 2012.

  1. keyex

    keyex Registered Member

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    It's 1PM, and so far today I've made $15.60 off of my Youtube videos with Fileice. I've been thinking about how unreliable this is. All it takes is some jackass to flag my videos or youtube to ban my account, and I could lose my online income. Some people do PPD with blogs, but that makes me think about CPA. Maybe for the long-term CPA is better? I know it's harder to learn and implement, but you cant really get "banned" from CPA unless you break the rules of your company.

    What would you guys do if you were me? Keep in mind I know NOTHING, ZERO, ZIP about CPA. Not even sure where I'd get started. I'm looking for long-term online income, and I'm not lazy in the least bit, so the workload isnt even a question. Right now I have one YT video uploaded and I average $13 per day. Also remember, I just got started in PPD 2 weeks ago and uploaded my first video a week ago. Opinions?
     
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    PPD isn't actually real PPI(pay per install). PPD *is* CPA but packaged up in such a way as to brainwash people into thinking it's something special.

    flieice and all these other "PPD" sites are just using CPA networks to setup content lockers then have people push traffic through them.

    I don't know why you think you can get banned with PPD and not CPA. People can flag your videos regardless of monetization method.


    $13/day for 1 video is really great. If I were you I would just keep doing what you're doing. *nothing* in online marketing is long-term or stable. The trick is to reinvest 90%+ of your income.

    Here's an analogy to describes online marketing:-


    Imagine you have a boat. Think of the boat as a method.

    The boat will make you money once it's out at sea, but it'll only last one day due to holes appearing in it and it eventually sinking.

    You take your first boat out for a day and profit. At the end of the day that boat has sunk.

    You then use the profit you made from that boat to buy 2 boats.

    You take your 2 boats out the next day, they make profit then sink.

    The next day you buy 4 boats, and so on.

    That's basically what online marketing is like. If you spend the profit from your first boat then once it sinks you have to go back to square 1 and start with 1 single boat again.

    Most people will use a boat, spend the profits on cars, apartments, luxuries and then they have to build up another boat from scratch. They repeat this usually for years.

    So..

    PPD sites are shit, but since you're so new you're better off just sticking with what you're doing. Make money, put 90%+ of that money aside and learn more about CPA by reading around the forum. If you keep reinvesting money you make then you'll be fine and end up with 100's of sinking boats. :)
     
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    What kind of video is the PPD on?
     
  4. keyex

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    Wow. That makes a ton of sense.. I always have had trouble "sticking" to something. I start one method, then I poke 100 holes in it and find a new method, and so on and so forth. Maybe for my own good I should stick with PPD till I reach some kind of goal. I'll just read about CPA in the meantime..
     
  5. twitter.followers

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    I do agree with Blueturtle for this.
    Reinvest the maximum percentage of your money earned and you will see the profit increasing..
    And once you have crossed your goal, you could surely use some percentage of your earning to improve your lifestyle.
     
  6. BlueTurtle

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    The poking holes is another thing that most people do and it's another major reason why most fail.

    People live in the future. They try to think 1000 steps ahead and branch off their thought process along the way. 2 things happen:-

    1) You see all the potential things that can go wrong.
    2) The project suddenly seems like an insurmountable mountain.

    People then move on.

    The reality is that it doesn't help at all knowing what can go wrong.

    Most millionaires live in the present, not the future. They focus day to day and at most the current week.

    It's ok to come up with strategies for the future, but people take it way way way too far.

    Try it. Stop yourself from thinking about a project you're working on. When you're working as an employee you don't think about the future, you just work day to day, and guess what? Shit gets done.

    Do the same thing for your own business. Just focus on what you need to do today and nothing else. Do that every single day and you'll be pleasantly surprised by the results. I've recently started doing this and I'm amazed at the changes.

    In the OP's case I'm assuming he's got a job or savings to support himself, since he's clearly not a full time IM at this stage, so 90% of $100/day reinvested is viable. If you're a full time IM then you'd need to re-adjust the %, so say 40% reinvested at $100/day, leaving you $60/day(which is enough for most in the US to live off pretty comfortably).

    Once you hit $200/day though you would reinvest 70%, then when you hit $1k/day you reinvest 94%, then from there you can go for a constant % that never changes, say 95% reinvested, which means when you hit $2k/day you've got $100/day to live off and at $10/day you've got $500/day to live off.

    Who gives a shit about income. Income = vanity. What matters is wealth. I don't even talk about daily amounts anymore and I live as cheaply as possible.

    I used to get embarrassed at having to take the bus, but now I laugh at the people driving about in their BMWs, because I know they're all mostly living from pay cheque to pay cheque, while I'm building up real wealth. (I have a car btw, but I take the bus sometimes)

    It feels very empowering to be financially shrewd and spend very little. Besides, there's a difference between being poor and just not spending money on personal expenses.

    Happiness is also related to this. If from the start of your career you spend a ton of money you'll quickly wear yourself out and get bored, or you'll run out of money and get depressed since you've been so reliant on your lifestyle. If you act like a business person and are sensible with money then you actually find happiness.

    Some of the things that lead to happiness are the feeling that you're in complete control of your life and building things. It feels good to have your money creating value. Driving about in a sports car is fake happiness and mostly food for the ego.

    But once your money starts to really grow and grow all these things will come, but the difference is you'll have a stable foundation and you won't care all that much about them. Most entrepreneurs love the business, the success, the lifestyle. The luxuries just make the lifestyle even better, but they don't make it what it is.
     
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    I used to use PDD when I was younger, was pretty good back then. Now I am using an Adworkmedia content locker on my own website. Pays better and way better in the long run I reckon.
     
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    I would just keep doing what you're doing. Videos will get taken down but you just need to be constantly uploading more.
     
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    Very well said. There's a right way to go about it, and a wrong way. This person ^ has gone about it the right way. Good luck.
     
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    Golden words, BlueTurtle , golden words...

    +1 rep for opening my eyes.
     
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    Really Golden words BlueTurtle !
    +Rep
     
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    Bold this. Print it. Put it in front of your monitor. Whatever... Just remember it!

    This is said many times by our finger happy poster BT and many others, but most of the people simply do not understand it.
    There is so many great advices in this few posts and most of the members should read this carefully and stop wandering around for a 1-click-no-lifting-d***(TM) method.


    *Sorry if you can't understand what I was thinking. My english is not so good.
     
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    Best thinking ive read all day from anywhere online, thanks
     
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    Yep. You're so right when you tell people to stop looking around for the methods etc.

    I've been around for a long time and I've tried so many different things and been in so many different JVs online and the thing that's had the greatest impact on me is the mindset changes. A lot of people think "Oh, that's all just theory-garbage, what matters is solid methods that make money", but they're so wrong.

    A few mindset changes can have *dramatic* affects on your life. Not just how much money you make, but how you feel. When I said above about how I've noticed changes since changing my thinking from future to present what I mean is my level of happiness/comfort. When I was thinking about the future most of the time I felt tense, tight and just generally not relaxed. I wasn't what most would call stressed, but there was tension. Now that I just focus on the present and just *completely let go* of the future, putting my faith/trust in myself/god/the university/infinity, I find that I have a wave of calm. My body and mind feel relaxed and refreshed, and guess what? When you feel like that you become amazing at solving the day to day problems that you feared in the past.

    I don't want to get religious, as what I'm talking about kind of transcends any one religion, but if you look at a lot of the most successful/happy people you'll see they're people of faith. What religion calls 'faith' is something very practical that can be used in business. Whether it's faith in yourself, the universe, whatever god you believe in, it doesn't matter. Just having that faith that the future will take care of its self if you take care of the day to day stuff. Anyone familiar with the 'law of attraction', 'reality creation', 'napoleon hill' etc will recognize that real reality creation comes from faith/belief. Basically just 'knowing' everything is going to be ok.

    I popped out for a drive earlier tonight and I was thinking about when it's good to think in the future, because obviously we do need to plan stuff, right? The answer hit me..

    When you're planning your business and thinking about the future stick with the WHAT, ie, "what am I going to do. I'll build this site, have this on it, do this and do that." That's a plan. What you want to avoid thinking about is the HOW. How will you build the site? How will you do this, how will you do that and so on. So to create your reality you decide the what, then you simply let go of ALL the hows and work on each thing day to day having faith/belief that the hows will work themselves out as you progress. What happens is you free yourself from tension and your mind becomes like a conduit for information/ideas/intuition/creativity and day to day you're able to just solve the hows with absolute ease.

    I'm starting a mobile web design site and there's a million things ahead of me, but today all I've been focused on is my business plan. When that's done I'll focus on doing my web site, then gathering leads, then cold calling. I could worry about things like, what will I say on the phone, how will I keep track of my leads, what shall I use for emailing/templates, how will I take payment, what if they want to pay cash, what if they want to do this. I could go on and on for hours and I'm sure many of you can relate to that kind of future 'how' thinking, so rather than all that I just decide "what", ie, "I'm going to phone up leads with the intention of getting them to accept an email with more information". Simple. When the time comes to do it I'll deal with whatever problems arise on that day, but not sooner.





    Another thing I forgot to mention that is a key thing to success. It stems from the 80/20 rule. Stop striving for perfectionism. As hard as it is, accept that you're not perfect and you're not going to do everything perfectly. Just get the job done. Can't create an amazing, brilliant site? Who cares, just get *a* site up. 20% of the effort, 80% of the results.


    And lastly one of the other crucial keys to success is the ability to make quick decisions. It doesn't matter if you're wrong. It's better to make a quick decision and be wrong, than spend weeks deciding on something so that you may be right. When I say quick I mean DAMN QUICK. Almost instant decisions. If you ever get a chance look at CEO's etc. The good ones make ultra quick, crucial decisions and they stick by their decision. That means don't second guess yourself, it doesn't mean be stubborn, ie, if your decision turns out to be wrong admit it's wrong, accept responsibility like a boss and make another decision.


    Long post, but I'm in a creative mood and a lot of stuff is really clear in my head just now so that's why I'm sharing. :)
     
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    ^^^ Your posts never cease to amaze me. You really are one of the ones that has changed my lifestyle drastically. Ever since I joined BHW (almost a year now), and read some of your posts I swear I never overlooked them after that and read every word because you sir... spit some real knowledge. Thank you :D
     
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  16. keyex

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    I got a lot different answers than I expected, but I'm glad. This is a lot better than "cpa is better man". Printing this page out..
     
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    With CPA you're promoting their offers. You're targeting people who are interested in what you're promoting through CPA offers.

    With PPD you're promoting your downloads. People have no interest in completing offers, they only want to download your stuff. So you're targeting people who want to download.
     
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    You can learn success story from ilovechucktaylor journey in this forum about cpa ppd.
     
  19. AfirmeD

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    Wise words bro, I'm truly amazed.
     
  20. .:mAestro:.

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    You should be in a creative mod every other day, if you ask me ;)
    It amazes me how similar we are thinking about almost everything.



    I completely agree with that we should change our thinking from future to present. I have earned enough to have nice life for a some time, but every single day I'm still stressed and thinking about things what will happen when I will have wife, family, how much more money should I need for a life I want to live in that other circumstances etc etc.
    Of course, I understand what are you saying and I have already started to change my thinking and I believe I'm on the right track.


    What and how?
    Yeah, I already know about that 'concept'. I think that I saw that first time in The Secret documentary. Guess what guys? That stuff works! Just try it, I will not give any examples from my life. There is just so many stories about this around.

    Pareto rule was always one of my favorite rules in life and business. One should always be thinking about it and I believe you will be much more effective.

    Again I want thank BlueTurtle for taking time to write those posts and thank you for sharing your knowledge and wisdom on public forum!


    OP, sorry for offtopic, but it's always great to read some great posts in any thread.
     
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