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whosethis

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hey guys... does anyone know what PowerMTA costs now? Is it a per server license? or can you have it on more than 1 server?

A lot seemed to have changed with it? The new Bird company that seems to own it now does not have any pricing for PMTA shown on their website

Thanks
 
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I thought it was a dead service for many years now.
 
BestOfLife said:
I thought it was a dead service for many years now.
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PowerMTA is just a PHP script but it seems the company selling it is different now (Bird)

they claim 40% of email traffic globally uses PMTA - so far from dead!

But need to know the pricing if anyone here can enlighten me? You have to get on a call with them and book a demo to find out from them
 
PMTA is a repository, not a PHP script. It was discontinued in 2016 only. Sparkpost took the rights to sell it for 6000 Euros each copy with a private version of 6.0, but they sell only to verified enterprises you cannot even get DEMO that easily.

Good luck :)
 
xcodes said:
PMTA is a repository, not a PHP script. It was discontinued in 2016 only. Sparkpost took the rights to sell it for 6000 Euros each copy with a private version of 6.0, but they sell only to verified enterprises you cannot even get DEMO that easily.

Good luck :)
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Thanks for this... Sparkpost is now Bird and appreciate the additional detail re hard to even get a demo...

If Sparkpost was selling it for 6000 euros then I imagine Bird is selling it for even more!

Any thoughts on how PMTA compares to the likes of hMailServer, Postfix/Webmin, Postal, Exim?/cPanel?
Is it really worth the price vs the other ones?

Thanks again
 
whosethis said:
PowerMTA is just a PHP script but it seems the company selling it is different now (Bird)

they claim 40% of email traffic globally uses PMTA - so far from dead!

But need to know the pricing if anyone here can enlighten me? You have to get on a call with them and book a demo to find out from them
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It has an interface mate not a php script.
 
You can buy PowerMT
A at a cheap price, you need just to be aware from where to buy.
 
whosethis said:
Any thoughts on how PMTA compares to the likes of hMailServer, Postfix/Webmin, Postal, Exim?/cPanel?
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simple pmta , mailerQ , turbo are used to handle high volume , where postfix , exim are for lower handling. You can simply use postfix that does most of the job.

And it's foolish to buy PMTA cause they are shared on the internet freely with patched files. None has a licensed version now.

Cheers :)
 
xcodes said:
simple pmta , mailerQ , turbo are used to handle high volume , where postfix , exim are for lower handling. You can simply use postfix that does most of the job.

And it's foolish to buy PMTA cause they are shared on the internet freely with patched files. None has a licensed version now.

Cheers :)
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yes agreed - wouldn't want some patched/hacked version that who knows what its doing in the background!

I imagine PMTA is mega bucks now from Bird as MailerQ is 25k Euros for unlimited!

Guess a mixture of hMailServer, Postfix/Webmin, Postal is already good enough to send millions of emails.

More likely to start running out of good high quality leads before the setup is an issue!

Thanks

Algo said:
You can buy PowerMT
A at a cheap price, you need just to be aware from where to buy.
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would love to find out more if you're will to share info :)

thanks
 
PowerMTA pricing can vary based on your needs and server setup.
It used to be a per-server license, but with Bird now handling it, details might be different. You might need to contact them directly for the most accurate and current pricing info.
 
So many open-source products in the market now that will beat PMTA. Try Haraka or Postal.
 
is it possible to find more info about KumoMTA , setup guide, config guide, optimize guide, etc (except the guide KumoMTA offer) ?
 
Nope. I have searched it before; However, I was able to install it using their own guide and test. Let me see if I have the bandwidth to write an easier guide on installing KumoMTA.
 
btw I've heard Gmail has a receive limit of 250 emails/hour PER SENDER IP... i.e. Google will not let you email more than 250 Gmail inboxes in 1 hour from 1 IP? This obviously means max 6000 emails/day per sending IP,,, which is tiny :eek: I find that very hard to believe.... (for e.g. Sparkpost back in the day used to claim you can send 10M per day per IP)

does anyone here know if this is true?
If so presumably you get get around it by getting additional IPs? But then how do you warm up multiple IPs since as far as I know you're not supposed to rotate IP during warmup...

Thanks!
 
whosethis said:
btw I've heard Gmail has a receive limit of 250 emails/hour PER SENDER IP... i.e. Google will not let you email more than 250 Gmail inboxes in 1 hour from 1 IP? This obviously means max 6000 emails/day per sending IP,,, which is tiny :eek: I find that very hard to believe.... (for e.g. Sparkpost back in the day used to claim you can send 10M per day per IP)

does anyone here know if this is true?
If so presumably you get get around it by getting additional IPs? But then how do you warm up multiple IPs since as far as I know you're not supposed to rotate IP during warmup...

Thanks!
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that i know that email accounts need warmup, but had even warmup doesn't help when you send the same msg to many emails
the sending email will be blacklisted fast

you can try to buy 100 gmail or other email accounts and test it , how fast they blacklist you

biswajitp said:
Nope. I have searched it before; However, I was able to install it using their own guide and test. Let me see if I have the bandwidth to write an easier guide on installing KumoMTA.
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i like to see that :)
 
cryptom0 said:
that i know that email accounts need warmup, but had even warmup doesn't help when you send the same msg to many emails
the sending email will be blacklisted fast

you can try to buy 100 gmail or other email accounts and test it , how fast they blacklist you
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sure warm up is one thing - I was told this is a blanket limit (even post warmup) and thats what I am doubting/asking about...

cryptom0 said:
when you send the same msg to many emails
the sending email will be blacklisted fast
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while I agree that this is common wisdom, how do people send newsletters then?
a newsletter is by definition the same email everyday to everyone
Also I get sent unwanted newsletters everyday that I never signed up to - how come they're able to inbox everyday with same email loaded with graphics and hyperlinks over and over (even if I dont open them!)
 
personalized emails, each mail must be different in every aspect

another strategy if you want same email to everyone in the list is free newsletter or paid newsletter (the customer paid per month to be in your list)
 
cryptom0 said:
another strategy if you want same email to everyone in the list is free newsletter
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yes thats what I was talking about - how come newsletters are OK if they're the same copy to everyone and regular cold email has to be different to everyone?

What is it in a newsletter that makes it OK?
 
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