1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

Possible Youtube + Content ID method?

Discussion in 'Making Money' started by counselor_X, May 7, 2017.

  1. counselor_X

    counselor_X Regular Member

    Joined:
    Mar 21, 2011
    Messages:
    251
    Likes Received:
    50
    Before I get into the method, I'll share some backstory of how I have made some change (3 grand) over the past couple years doing all whitehat variations of this method, and then I'll get to how I think this could be twisted into a blackhat method.

    I make music and I've owned a hip hop beat / original instrumental website for 10+ years. My beats have been used in thousands and thousands of places. Other people have used my music in several thousand youtube videos. One day, I signed up for a content ID service which I won't name. The way it works is you sign up, get accepted, upload all your music to their website, and anytime they detect my music on any youtube video, the system automatically puts a copyright claim on the video and gives the video owner 2 options: remove their video, or do nothing, in which case monetization will be enabled and all revenue will go to me. So, I flipped this "switch" and have been getting $50 to $200 per month ever since, from other people's videos that used my music.

    One more piece of the story: A pretty popular cable TV show also used my music in several of their episodes. Someone ended up pirating the show and uploaded those episodes to Youtube, and I got all the revenue for it. (Interesting...)

    By now, you can probably see where I'm going and how I think this could be a blackhat method. I could take any popular video, new tv show, etc, put a 10 second clip of my music on it, throw it up on a new youtube account, and monetization will automatically be enabled and the revenue will go to me just because I have a 10 second clip of my music on it until the video gets reported and removed. Rinse, repeat, and scale.

    I'm not claiming this to be an ultimate get-rich method, and I obviously haven't tried the blackhat version of this, so what are everyone's thoughts? I think it could work pretty well since your throw-away youtube accounts have no value and you never have to worry about an adsense account or anything like that, since there is no direct connection to you.
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 1
  2. youngadachi

    youngadachi Registered Member

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2014
    Messages:
    58
    Likes Received:
    7
    Well thats awesome bro.
    You should make some tests and see whats happen.
    PM me if you want to make it big bro
     
  3. 5nook

    5nook Registered Member

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2016
    Messages:
    69
    Likes Received:
    10
    Gender:
    Male
    its very interested )) what this service )))?
     
  4. Gloria Parker

    Gloria Parker Power Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2016
    Messages:
    543
    Likes Received:
    136
    its reaaly good. you should create more songs
     
  5. nikhil94

    nikhil94 Junior Member

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2012
    Messages:
    125
    Likes Received:
    28
    Why wouldn't you name the service/website? I don't see any reason why.
     
  6. dogilim

    dogilim Regular Member

    Joined:
    May 16, 2016
    Messages:
    214
    Likes Received:
    20
    Holy shit you are so clever man
     
  7. krhnsfk

    krhnsfk Junior Member

    Joined:
    May 5, 2017
    Messages:
    114
    Likes Received:
    11
    Gender:
    Male
    Maybe you just signed up for the youtube content id system? That's where you upload your files and youtube will automatically detect audio/visual content in every youtube video.
     
  8. andalousy

    andalousy Newbie

    Joined:
    Sep 2, 2014
    Messages:
    46
    Likes Received:
    5
    Location:
    Morocco
    a question
    do you take all the revenue made by the video ads or the content id company has a part of it + does the ads play on the videos even if the uploader didn't monetize them
     
  9. bornthisway

    bornthisway Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2015
    Messages:
    691
    Likes Received:
    181
    Gender:
    Female
    Occupation:
    YouTube King,SMM
    Location:
    skype:usernameaborted
    Duh! Didn't you ever see how a copyright claim looks like?!
     
  10. andalousy

    andalousy Newbie

    Joined:
    Sep 2, 2014
    Messages:
    46
    Likes Received:
    5
    Location:
    Morocco
    Yes i did
    i just want to be sure about the non monetized Videos
     
  11. loxnemamont

    loxnemamont Newbie

    Joined:
    May 7, 2017
    Messages:
    3
    Likes Received:
    0
    Gender:
    Male
    What options are available to copyright owners?
    Copyright owners can choose different actions to take on material that matches theirs:
    • Block a whole video from being viewed
    • Monetize the video by running ads against it; in some cases sharing revenue with the uploader
    • Track the video‚Äôs viewership statistics
    Any of these actions can be country-specific. A video may be monetized in one country, and blocked or tracked in another.
     
  12. counselor_X

    counselor_X Regular Member

    Joined:
    Mar 21, 2011
    Messages:
    251
    Likes Received:
    50
    I just don't prefer to mention their name in a blackhat setting. I wouldn't want to hurt their reputation by possibly linking them to an exploit. However, they're easy to find and there are many companies that offer this service.

    In the beginning, I tried to just sign up straight through youtube to use their content ID system. I wasn't accepted. I think you had to be really huge to get accepted which was really frustrating because people were clearly using my music but since I wasn't a huge company, they wouldn't have me. This was years ago, though, so maybe it has changed since then.

    The company does take 20% of the revenue. This is why I tried to sign up for content ID directly through Youtube when I started, but since they rejected me, I had no other choice. And yes, ads will automatically play on the video even if the uploader has not monetized it, and that revenue will automatically go to the music owner.
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 1
  13. kue92

    kue92 Newbie

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2017
    Messages:
    15
    Likes Received:
    2
    the revenue we received will stay after the content removed?
     
  14. counselor_X

    counselor_X Regular Member

    Joined:
    Mar 21, 2011
    Messages:
    251
    Likes Received:
    50
    In the case where someone pirated a TV show that used my music and uploaded it to Youtube, I received the revenue for a few months before the videos were removed. The question is, would I receive revenue if the video were to be taken down way sooner? I'm not sure.

    This method has way different dynamics than typical youtube monetization, because technically the music owner is still entitled to receive the revenue if it (along with the video) is stolen and put on youtube.
     
  15. Hekuran1

    Hekuran1 Newbie

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2014
    Messages:
    1
    Likes Received:
    0
    PM, me please :)
     
  16. Mariothecashcow

    Mariothecashcow Registered Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2017
    Messages:
    79
    Likes Received:
    18
    Gender:
    Male
    you are one smart brother!!! I like you ALOT. I hope you remove this thread cus this you do NOT want this getting leaked far!!!!!
     
  17. sxiclub

    sxiclub Registered Member

    Joined:
    Jul 25, 2008
    Messages:
    99
    Likes Received:
    6
    Any try on this method?. And OP: do you think songs created with FL Studio (self creations, not covers) would be accepted for monetization? Could you PM me any partners to try? I applied to AdRev but they did not accepted my form.
     
  18. counselor_X

    counselor_X Regular Member

    Joined:
    Mar 21, 2011
    Messages:
    251
    Likes Received:
    50
    For sure. I have over 100 made in FL Studio that are all monetized. They're good quality, though. I've been using FL for 17 years. I think there are some companies where quality shouldn't matter too much. You might try CD-Baby. They provide the same type of service (content ID) and I doubt they care about how good the music is (just a guess).