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Plimus and anonymity

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by redhack, Sep 14, 2011.

  1. redhack

    redhack Regular Member Premium Member

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    I noticed a lot of high-risk offshore businesses are using Plimus as their merchant account. Since Plimus is based in the USA, how is Plimus providing anonymity to their clients? Or rather what are these businesses doing to stay anonymous with Plimus?
     
  2. lancis

    lancis Elite Member

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    Good questions, was wondering the same.
     
  3. redhack

    redhack Regular Member Premium Member

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    Yes, but unfortunately no one is answering us
     
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    wowhaxor Executive VIP Premium Member

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    I use plimus.

    They're not a payment processor instead a reseller so things work differently than they do with banking.
     
  5. redhack

    redhack Regular Member Premium Member

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    unfortunately that doesn't help answer the question
     
  6. sirgold

    sirgold Supreme Member

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    Honestly, I'm kinda skeptical of any US-based service regarding anonymity... My guess is that they can't cover all that much should someone with the right *cough* connections *cough* go knock at their doors. Just saying... ;)
     
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    Plimus is a legitimate company that allows people to sell digital products kinda like Clickbank, but maybe less popular.
    But don't know how they long last their anonymity since FTC are starting to cracking down some websites owners or even those who owned a small blog.

    The problem of Plimus now is that digitial product thieves found Plimus to be their new home.

    I got an email in my spam box today about some product I knew from Clickbank so I opened it.
    It said it came from the owner of the product and I knew that was B.S. but anyway for a good laugh I actually read it and clicked
    on the link inside the email thinking it would take me to the origial product.

    Well instead it took me to the same sales letter but on a different domain name where the person
    was taking payments through Plimus for a product they didn't own! LMAO

    Here is what's going on. Recently everytime there is a new product launch on Clickbank
    thieves buy it and start selling it themself on Plimus while violating copyrights.

    They simply copy and swipe the entire original sales letter, register a similar
    domain name, list it on Plimus and start spamming people's email addresses that they either bought or stole as well.

    This is totally illegal and Plimus should pay more attention to what people are listing in their marketplace.
    People that do that should pay fines too.

    Stealing someone else's work is not right. Why can't they create their own product? I mean how hard is it?
    Why just they don't give it or share it to everyone for free rather than stealing and host to their domain and sell for a small amount than original price?

    Copyrights are being violated on massive scale on the internet and it hurts all of us,
    because it's just a matter of time before the authorities drop a big hammer on all of this and making money online won't be as easy as it is now.

    Imagine that you need to pay license fees to sell stuff online and be a legally registered business.
    It would create a huge barrier for people to start their own business online, and trust me new laws are coming.

    I am sure they are working on it.
     
  8. Autumn

    Autumn Elite Member

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    Plimus is a small company and although their operations are in the US, it's based out of Israel. It was recently purchased by a private equity fund for $115m but as far as I'm aware the founders are still behind the wheel. Israelis aren't exactly known for respecting international laws, especially when it comes to the internet.

    Plimus makes money from each of the those borderline transactions, even if the content being sold is illegal. The status quo will continue until the FTC kicks up enough of a stink about it.

    In the meantime, Plimus continues to be really lax about requiring documentation from its users (and documentation is easily faked of course) and offers convenient wires to your off shore corporate bank account or easily anonymized Payoneer account.

    <3 Plimus!
     
  9. ljacobs

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    Hi All,

    Leore from Plimus here.

    Addressing your posts and questions, Plimus is an American company. Our development arm is in Israel and both offices are law abiding and committed to serving the legal side of the internet commerce for the benefit of sellers, affiliates and customers.

    With that, we do not provide any special shield for anonymity.

    Sellers are expected and required to provide truthful accurate details. If they don't then under clause 5.4 of our standard terms they will be in breach of the agreement and we can suspend or close the account.

    In addition the Plimus Privacy Policy makes it crystal clear that we reserve the right to pass information onto a law enforcement body and will obey legal requirements and subpoenas and court orders.

    Regarding copyrights, regardless of the product type, Plimus respects the intellectual property of others and expects all Plimus Sellers to do the same. If anyone believes that their copyrighted work has been copied in a way that constitutes copyright infringement and is accessible through Plimus, they may notify our copyright agent, as set forth in the Digital Millennium Copyright Act of 1998 (DMCA). More information on how to submit the notice can be found at the Plimus website. Scroll to the bottom of the homepage, click Legal under the Company header. Then, click on Prohibitions & DMCA.

    Regards,
    Leore
     
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