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[artificial_genius]

Can you confirm if the limit for turing has been upped?

Yes, it has been upped! The limit for the Turing Spinner has been increased from 100,000 words/mo to 150,000 words/mo.

We will be looking to increase that limit again in the upcoming months.

 

[Neo240]

What about alternate payment methods? Avangate or Plimus works cool for those who got paypal issues.

Also is there any offer coming for christmas?

 

[artificial_genius]

What about alternate payment methods? Avangate or Plimus works cool for those who got paypal issues.

We should have credit card support within the next 24 hours. I'll update this thread as soon as it is setup.

 

[sayedsite]

We should have credit card support within the next 24 hours. I'll update this thread as soon as it is setup.

Oh ya... I hope you add this payment method as soon as possible, because I can not wait to try the API and I can't pay for it, because my country is not listed on the PayPal.

 

[artificial_genius]

​We have added credit card support!

 

[audioguy]

I'm looking for high quality spinner for my seo campaigns. This seems to suit my need, but I'm not yet convinced.

The example from this thread from other members, for instance, if you want to make text very readable, WordAI only spins one or two words per sentence.

The {elderly|aged} {need|want} a lot of help around the house, but it is not often that each and every member of the family will be around to help. A typical {household|family} will not have a hired nurse, and so it becomes the {duty|responsibility} of the homeowner to assist their {aged|older|old|elderly} parents or grandparents.

Not enough for my standards for highly legible but unique content. Considering the time it takes to process in turing mode, anyone can go in and rewrite a few words quickly, if that is what they want. Perhaps that is an exception rather than the norm? Could you give more examples of spun content produced in turing mode?

Secondly, looking at your site, I noticed difference between the two mode: standard and turing plans. But you know what, although turing plan is more readable... but that's not always the case. Here's what I mean (first paragraph of the examples on this page: http://wordai.com/pricing.php )

Standard plan:

No body really wants to lose their investment

vs Turing plan:

No one wants to get rid of their expense

in this case, turing plan loses its meaning.

Thirdly, 150k words / mo is like 300 500-word articles per month. If I want to create 50 first tier content, that leaves me to 6 campaigns per month.

Considering the cost of VPS, software, proxy subscription, and also the risk of not ranking on the first page... not to mention getting sales, this investment is still too costly for my plan. I mean additional cost of $8.3 per keyword I want to rank, I better make sure I'm targeting the right keyword. It's no good for keywords that bring random $20-$30 per month, as they are too risky and expensive to target.

I'm trying to justify WordAI by looking at other ways to make use of the content. Selling content is definitely not my thing. Perhaps Alex or other members can give me some ideas.

Is standard plan good enough for first tier content? Could you give more examples of the spun and end-result from both plans so I can decide?

 

[artificial_genius]

The example from this thread from other members, for instance, if you want to make text very readable, WordAI only spins one or two words per sentence.

The {elderly|aged} {need|want} a lot of help around the house, but it is not often that each and every member of the family will be around to help. A typical {household|family} will not have a hired nurse, and so it becomes the {duty|responsibility} of the homeowner to assist their {aged|older|old|elderly} parents or grandparents.

I don't recommend using the "Very Readable" setting unless you don't care about uniqueness. There are users who want to use WordAi for manual spinning, and the "Very Readable" setting is mostly there for them. For most people they shouldn't be using that setting, so people shouldn't be comparing that setting to other spinners, as that's not the purpose of the "Very Readable" setting.

The "Readable" setting is a much better one for auto-spinning, and it generated the following for your sentence:

The {elderly|aged} {need|want} {a lot of|lots of|plenty of} help around the {house|home}, {but|however} {it is not|it's not|it isn't} {often|frequently|usually} that {each and every|every single|each} {member of|person in} {the family|the household|your family} will be around {to help|to assist}. {A typical|An average|A normal} {household|family} {will not|won't} have a hired nurse, {and so|therefore} it becomes the {duty|responsibility} of the homeowner to {assist|aid|help} their {aged|older|old|elderly} parents or {grandparents|grand-parents}.

You can of course also use the "Regular", "Unique" and "Very Unique" settings as well. Each setting in the Turing Spinner is designed to be readable.

Thirdly, 150k words / mo is like 300 500-word articles per month. If I want to create 50 first tier content, that leaves me to 6 campaigns per month.

Considering the cost of VPS, software, proxy subscription, and also the risk of not ranking on the first page... not to mention getting sales, this investment is still too costly for my plan. I mean additional cost of $8.3 per keyword I want to rank, I better make sure I'm targeting the right keyword. It's no good for keywords that bring random $20-$30 per month, as they are too risky and expensive to target.

I'm trying to justify WordAI by looking at other ways to make use of the content. Selling content is definitely not my thing. Perhaps Alex or other members can give me some ideas.

Is standard plan good enough for first tier content? Could you give more examples of the spun and end-result from both plans so I can decide?

We are generally flexible about the 150k limit. If you are going to go over your limit for the month and send a ticket asking for your limit to be increased a bit for the month, we will usually do so. Our limit used to be 100k words/mo before increasing it, and we will continue to increase that limit as our costs go down with volume.

I'd love to hear other users chime in as to what they are using WordAi for. From my experience, generally it is for Tier 1 content (2.0s, private blog networks, article directories), for low volume money sites, or for selling the content. I know users are using WordAi for many other things besides that, but those are definitely the most common.

I think many people would say that the Standard Plan is good enough for tier 1 content, but I'll leave that up to you. What I'd recommend is doing a 3 day trial for the Turing Plan (which lets you test the Standard Spinner and the Turing Spinner). Then if you think the Standard Spinner is good enough for you, you can downgrade before your 3 day trial ends (and you will only have to pay $19.95). If you don't think either are worth it, you can cancel and not pay anything, and if you think the Turing Spinner is worth it you can keep on going at that plan.

 

[audioguy]

Yea, that's exactly what I'm going to do.

Buy a new VPS. Check.
Load with software. Check.
Shop for tiered content.

I'm here right now. When I'm ready I'll be signing up with WordAi, along with an article scraper for tier-2.

If anyone has good cases for using WordAi, I'll be all ears.

 

[forlearnx]

I'll chime in...

I planned on using wordAI for my tier 1's, however, regular spin on Turing mode is coming back as 36%-44% unique. Now if I adjust it and set it to be readable but less unique, the %age varies between 45%-60% but the result is a lot less readable.

The attached image is an example of 36% uniqueness (regular Turing mode).

View attachment 21587

Am I doing something wrong?!

I don't know about you but I won't post anything with less than 65% unique, even to my tier 1s. I really hate spinning and so the prospect of this tool was so attractive to me. I was hoping it would produce 60%-70% uniqueness, that way I can post several versions to all of my tier1s, possibly even post to my money sites. However, I'm having to spend a lot of time adding additional words and sentences to the spintax.

Sorry, but unless you can drastically improve the overall uniqueness with a decent level of readability the tool is no use to me. If you can do this than I would be very happy to pay the monthly subscription, $49.95. But as it is now there is zero return on investment. I'm having to spend much of my time respinning the results when I could just as well use that $50 to buy 5 articles and have them spun to 70% uniqueness.

I don't recommend using the "Very Readable" setting unless you don't care about uniqueness. There are users who want to use WordAi for manual spinning, and the "Very Readable" setting is mostly there for them. For most people they shouldn't be using that setting, so people shouldn't be comparing that setting to other spinners, as that's not the purpose of the "Very Readable" setting.

The "Readable" setting is a much better one for auto-spinning, and it generated the following for your sentence:


You can of course also use the "Regular", "Unique" and "Very Unique" settings as well. Each setting in the Turing Spinner is designed to be readable.



We are generally flexible about the 150k limit. If you are going to go over your limit for the month and send a ticket asking for your limit to be increased a bit for the month, we will usually do so. Our limit used to be 100k words/mo before increasing it, and we will continue to increase that limit as our costs go down with volume.

I'd love to hear other users chime in as to what they are using WordAi for. From my experience, generally it is for Tier 1 content (2.0s, private blog networks, article directories), for low volume money sites, or for selling the content. I know users are using WordAi for many other things besides that, but those are definitely the most common.

I think many people would say that the Standard Plan is good enough for tier 1 content, but I'll leave that up to you. What I'd recommend is doing a 3 day trial for the Turing Plan (which lets you test the Standard Spinner and the Turing Spinner). Then if you think the Standard Spinner is good enough for you, you can downgrade before your 3 day trial ends (and you will only have to pay $19.95). If you don't think either are worth it, you can cancel and not pay anything, and if you think the Turing Spinner is worth it you can keep on going at that plan.

 

[zigato]

Hmm... the Turing doesn't seem to work very well for me. I tested out a couple of blogs and news articles, varying from 300 words to about 1000 words or so. The uniqueness seems to average at about 50% for me, even if I put it to very unique. I've also tried to spin spun articles. I also went to Copyscape and all of the spun content can be detected by Copyscape and even picked up the original article. I wouldn't really recommend this unless you can point out to me what I've done wrong?

 

[Danny1111]

I was looking at this as I am having so many problems with Spinnerchief - but the examples and uniqueness has me concerned - as we would be going to alot of effort and expense to use this service on a monthly basis .... I'll stay interested and keep watching the thread and see if the user experience increases as you can make more changes.

 

[artificial_genius]

I'll chime in...

I planned on using wordAI for my tier 1's, however, regular spin on Turing mode is coming back as 36%-44% unique. Now if I adjust it and set it to be readable but less unique, the %age varies between 45%-60% but the result is a lot less readable.

The attached image is an example of 36% uniqueness (regular Turing mode).

View attachment 21587

Am I doing something wrong?!

I don't know about you but I won't post anything with less than 65% unique, even to my tier 1s. I really hate spinning and so the prospect of this tool was so attractive to me. I was hoping it would produce 60%-70% uniqueness, that way I can post several versions to all of my tier1s, possibly even post to my money sites. However, I'm having to spend a lot of time adding additional words and sentences to the spintax.

Sorry, but unless you can drastically improve the overall uniqueness with a decent level of readability the tool is no use to me. If you can do this than I would be very happy to pay the monthly subscription, $49.95. But as it is now there is zero return on investment. I'm having to spend much of my time respinning the results when I could just as well use that $50 to buy 5 articles and have them spun to 70% uniqueness.

The Regular Setting on the Turing Spinner will practically never give a uniqueness that low.

I tried the article you pasted in and didn't get anywhere near the same result you did. In fact when I entered in that article it passed Copyscape.

Could you try the article again? If it still is giving you a uniqueness that low could you PM me with your browser info, and I'll make sure to credit your account and look into what is causing your account to get different results. But having just tried it myself I am pretty confident that you were using the wrong setting or something like that.

Anyone else is free to try that exact same article (located http://ezinearticles.com/?Dining-Table-and-Chairs-Set&id=6656368) and you'll see that the "Super Unique" version passes Copyscape with no editing required.

Hmm... the Turing doesn't seem to work very well for me. I tested out a couple of blogs and news articles, varying from 300 words to about 1000 words or so. The uniqueness seems to average at about 50% for me, even if I put it to very unique. I've also tried to spin spun articles. I also went to Copyscape and all of the spun content can be detected by Copyscape and even picked up the original article. I wouldn't really recommend this unless you can point out to me what I've done wrong?

If you could PM me the articles you are using (or emailing me at alex [at] wordai [dot] com) I would be able to help you out more. Usually "Very Unique" is around 55-70% WordAi uniqueness, which is usually enough to pass Copyscape. But if I see what types of articles you are trying to spin, that would help me out a lot.

I was looking at this as I am having so many problems with Spinnerchief - but the examples and uniqueness has me concerned - as we would be going to alot of effort and expense to use this service on a monthly basis .... I'll stay interested and keep watching the thread and see if the user experience increases as you can make more changes.

You can always try our 3 day trial as there are no risks involved. The overwhelming response to WordAi has been positive. Most people complaining about uniqueness being low are using settings like "Very Readable". If you are really unsure I'd wait for forlearnx to reply back, as I have a feeling his initial results he posted were not using the "Regular" setting. As I said before, when I went to try the same article, it passed Copyscape for me.
But there is nothing stopping you from trying yourself and seeing if the uniqueness is good enough for you or not.

 

[forlearnx]

Thanks for replying.

Yeah, I'd appreciate you refunding me until you have fixed the issue. I'll PM my details over.

I'm using firefox v17

I've tried it again and have the same result:

To show regular turing mode:
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To show uniqueness:
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To show ezine:
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The Regular Setting on the Turing Spinner will practically never give a uniqueness that low.

I tried the article you pasted in and didn't get anywhere near the same result you did. In fact when I entered in that article it passed Copyscape.

Could you try the article again? If it still is giving you a uniqueness that low could you PM me with your browser info

 

[TheSeoKraken]

I'm not too impressed so far. The lower the settings, the higher the uniqueness, true. But I might as well hit auto spin in TBS for that kind of readability. As for high readability... that's true, but the uniqueness plummets, which is not worth $50. I too would like to know how people are justifying the expense of this. Are these just using it for sub standard tier 1's... is that it?

 

[artificial_genius]

Thanks for replying.

Yeah, I'd appreciate you refunding me until you have fixed the issue. I'll PM my details over.

I'm using firefox v17

I've tried it again and have the same result:

That is very odd as I am getting very different results. I talked to several other people and gave them the article and they confirmed that they were getting results in the range of 55-60% uniqueness when they used the "Regular" settings. I contacted you on Skype so we can try to work out why you are getting these spins.

I'm not too impressed so far. The lower the settings, the higher the uniqueness, true. But I might as well hit auto spin in TBS for that kind of readability. As for high readability... that's true, but the uniqueness plummets, which is not worth $50. I too would like to know how people are justifying the expense of this. Are these just using it for sub standard tier 1's... is that it?

Sorry you feel that way. I'd love to talk to you privately (Skype is cardine18) about the issues you're having to see if I can help you out. We get tons of positive testimonials everyday, and I'd love to work with you to try to figure out how to improve the results your getting with for WordAi.

Here are recent testimonials from another forum talking about how they are using WordAi (all testimonials are from the last 3-4 days):

With some extra manual work post spin, you can pass Copyscape. Even got a test article rated 4 stars on Textbroker

Here's my process:

- Take 5 articles from EzineArticles.com
- Adjust each article so they're all 7 paragraphs each
- Spin each article, one by one with high readability setting.
- Then spin the paragraphs together, so each article uses a random paragraph:


{Pararagraph 1A|Paragraph 1B|Paragrah 1C}, etc....


{Paragraph 2A|Paragraph 2B|Paragraph 2C}, etc....

I'm not creating these articles for human consumption. It's all just Google food. Since EzineArticles is a human moderated article directory, it means that all posts accepted need to have proper grammar, pass copy scape, have proper sentence structure, etc.... No, it's not magazine quality content. But it's unique, and perfectly readable by a human. It's a lot better than mass replacing synonyms with TheBestSpinner, to a point where it's hardly understandable.

I never publish articles as they come out, although they are unique and readable. Rather, I edit them and rewrite some fragments, so the result is practically the same as sitting down and writing an article from scratch. WordAI is the research/draft time saver for me more than anything else.

Hope that helps!

 

[M1ndfluX]

Hi AG,


Just upgraded but since it didnt match my expectations, i downgraded again since i wanted to do this within the 3 day trial.

But now i am charged for the turing plan when i downgraded lolz.

 

[forlearnx]

Hi AG,

You should have got my skype messages yesterday up until 4.16am my time.

I told you I had tested it on 2 separate browsers from the same PC hitting only 36%. The results were as follows:

[04:14:44] Joe: Firefox returned 36% unique
[04:14:51] Joe: Chrome 37% unique

[04:15:17] Joe: I tested it on a laptop using Internet explorers and it return 37%

Ok, that was earlier. Now I have some good news, tested today between 12.30 and 1pm.

I've tested the same article on the same PC, using the same browser (firefox) as the original complaint and it returned 58% unique. Not as much as I hoped but it's a great an improvement. See image:

View attachment 21664

To test it was not a fluke I then went and tested a different article and 57%:

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And one more returning 56%:

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As per your PM, you suggested it could be my browser or OS. I did test this and discounted this by using a different browser. I also discounted the problem that it could be my OS or PC. So it must have been something from your end. Did you just switch a button back on??

 

[forlearnx]

I take back the above post.

I ran another test today and it returned 36% again:

View attachment 21718

I'd be happy to try and sort this out via thread skype or Pm. But like I said, as it is right now it's no good for me.

 

[forlearnx]

Just an update. I double checked the article again today and it returned 58% unique (as it did on a previous time). That is generally good enough for my purposes.

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I've spoken with Alex and he's put in place some mechanisms to alert him of any issues with regards to the intermittent uniqueness experienced from users. I think this is a step in the right direction and will hopefully resolve any bugs that might happen.

All in all I'm pretty satisfied with the explanation he provided and will continue with the service.

Thanks Alex.

 

[artificial_genius]

Just an update. I double checked the article again today and it returned 58% unique (as it did on a previous time). That is generally good enough for my purposes.

View attachment 21772

I've spoken with Alex and he's put in place some mechanisms to alert him of any issues with regards to the intermittent uniqueness experienced from users. I think this is a step in the right direction and will hopefully resolve any bugs that might happen.

All in all I'm pretty satisfied with the explanation he provided and will continue with the service.

Thanks Alex.

Glad everything got sorted out.

The issue that was causing this problem has been completely resolved so you shouldn't have any issues getting 55-70% uniqueness.

We also rolled several updates live yesterday which should help both uniqueness and readability.