People are 10 years behind with their SEO knowledge

splishsplash · Jul 12, 2023

How many of you guys think you rank keywords with links?

Ie, if you want to rank the page yoursite.com/best-toaster for the keyword "best toaster", you send a link with the anchor "best toaster" to that page?

Then if you want to rank "top toasters", you send another link with "top toasters"?

This still seems to be prevalent thinking in SEO. I'm really shocked..

Guys.

Not only do you not rank keywords with links, you don't even rank pages with links.

This was super old school SEO from the 2000's and early 2010's.

Links, if they look natural to google are like plugging in electricity into a circuit. They send juice IN to your site.

Juice then flows round your site.

Google then ranks pages based on

1) Your total authority

2) Your topical authority

3) If you match the user intent.

SEO is *really* simple. Stop trying to rank "Keywords" with links. You aren't going to buy some link, send the anchor "bob the builder" and then rank for your keyword "bob the builder". It does NOT work like this.

sscaz · Jul 12, 2023

splishsplash said:
How many of you guys think you rank keywords with links?

Ie, if you want to rank the page yoursite.com/best-toaster for the keyword "best toaster", you send a link with the anchor "best toaster" to that page?

Then if you want to rank "top toasters", you send another link with "top toasters"?

This still seems to be prevalent thinking in SEO. I'm really shocked..

Guys.

Not only do you not rank keywords with links, you don't even rank pages with links.

This was super old school SEO from the 2000's and early 2010's.

Links, if they look natural to google are like plugging in electricity into a circuit. They send juice IN to your site.

Juice then flows round your site.

Google then ranks pages based on

1) Your total authority

2) Your topical authority

3) If you match the user intent.

SEO is *really* simple. Stop trying to rank "Keywords" with links. You aren't going to buy some link, send the anchor "bob the builder" and then rank for your keyword "bob the builder". It does NOT work like this.

i did gsa ser spam for my manga sites in 2021 with spamming thousands of links every day to all pages for keywords and made a site with 30k-50k traffic a day + used to spam social media

CB20C3 · Jul 12, 2023

what should be the approach in current seo strategy to rank "best toaster" . i am going to build my first site. Your suggestion will help me a lot.

awesomewebsites · Jul 12, 2023

CB20C3 said:
what should be the approach in current seo strategy to rank "best toaster" . i am going to build my first site. Your suggestion will help me a lot.

Read the OP. He mentioned what will work today.

Kinu Actaz · Jul 12, 2023

sscaz said:
i did gsa ser spam for my manga sites in 2021 with spamming thousands of links every day to all pages for keywords and made a site with 30k-50k traffic a day + used to spam social media

How long did it last?

splishsplash · Jul 12, 2023

sscaz said:
i did gsa ser spam for my manga sites in 2021 with spamming thousands of links every day to all pages for keywords and made a site with 30k-50k traffic a day + used to spam social media

So why are you only making a couple grand a month then?

If this works and you can rank sites like that, and you've been doing it since 2021, you should be clearing 6 figures per month minimum.

That stuff does NOT work. If it did work, I wouldn't even bother with auction domains. I'd just spam.

What's more likely is you created a site with a bunch of low comp PAA keywords that would have ranked without a single link.

I don't even know what to say to this. Are you seriously trying to tell us you can blast a site with exact match anchor GSA spam and rank?

If that were the case I'd just quit SEO now and never write another thing. It basically means everything I write is complete BS and all you have to do is spam your site with some exacts and boom, $$$$

Also, is this not a conradiction here?

https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/h...ted-10-40k-visitors-with-0-backlinks.1482720/
You're talking about an anime site you ranked with no backlinks. Now, conveniently you're saying you used GSA with exact match anchors and it worked, which just proves my entire foundational SEO knowledge wrong.

You say this

Later i started contacting youtubers for anime offering them cooperations , we advertise theme and they advertise us, this way almost every balkan anime youtuber made a video for our website stating that we are the best anome website)

So which is it, GSA backlinks or youtube deals?

tNK · Jul 12, 2023

Sorry can you elaborate more? Do you mean we should focus on the content on our site?

splishsplash · Jul 12, 2023

tNK said:
Sorry can you elaborate more? Do you mean we should focus on the content on our site?

Create content.

Link as naturally as possible across your site. Don't hammer 1 particular page.

Use natural long phrase anchors. Example is how slate.com link. They have a lot of external links.

Keep building content. Keep building quality links.

That increases your topical authority and your site authority.

That's how you rank.

And you make sure the individual pages are matching the user intent of what the users want to see.

And keep your content in TIGHT niches.

Don't create 1 article in every sub-niche.

Pick a sub-sub-sub-niche and write everything you can about it.

Then move to the next sub-sub-sub-niche and write everything about that.

tNK · Jul 12, 2023

splishsplash said:
Create content.

Link as naturally as possible across your site. Don't hammer 1 particular page.

Use natural long phrase anchors. Example is how slate.com link. They have a lot of external links.

Keep building content. Keep building quality links.

That increases your topical authority and your site authority.

That's how you rank.

And you make sure the individual pages are matching the user intent of what the users want to see.

And keep your content in TIGHT niches.

Don't create 1 article in every sub-niche.

Pick a sub-sub-sub-niche and write everything you can about it.

Then move to the next sub-sub-sub-niche and write everything about that.

You are a godsend. Sorry for asking questions:

About this -

And keep your content in TIGHT niches.

Don't create 1 article in every sub-niche.

Pick a sub-sub-sub-niche and write everything you can about it.

Then move to the next sub-sub-sub-niche and write everything about that.

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Can you elaborate on how this works if my niche is travel?

splishsplash · Jul 12, 2023

tNK said:
You are a godsend. Sorry for asking questions:

About this -

And keep your content in TIGHT niches.

Don't create 1 article in every sub-niche.

Pick a sub-sub-sub-niche and write everything you can about it.

Then move to the next sub-sub-sub-niche and write everything about that.

---------------

Can you elaborate on how this works if my niche is travel?

Travel isn't a niche, bro.

That's an entire industry.

It's like saying 'tech' is a niche.

No one is going to be a topical authority in 'tech' or 'travel'.

You become a topical authority on beaches, or surfing holidays, or something specific.

To be a topical authority in travel you'd need probably a million articles.. It's way way way too big.

CyberCommander · Jul 12, 2023

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https://topseofactors.com/

tNK · Jul 12, 2023

splishsplash said:
Travel isn't a niche, bro.

That's an entire industry.

It's like saying 'tech' is a niche.

No one is going to be a topical authority in 'tech' or 'travel'.

You become a topical authority on beaches, or surfing holidays, or something specific.

To be a topical authority in travel you'd need probably a million articles.. It's way way way too big.

Understood. Can you give me an example of

Pick a sub-sub-sub-niche and write everything you can about it.

Then move to the next sub-sub-sub-niche and write everything about that.

Using a random niche so I can understand better of it.

DeadJoe · Jul 12, 2023

This is how it works. I use aged domains and don't bother building links tbh, if I do it's very few. The domain already has the links.

Almost all of my articles rank first page, I choose keywords wisely but the thing is I never point any links towards any new content that I add. If you look at the SERPs this is how everyone else is doing it as well. People chasing long tails can't build links to every single page (use common sense).

Make sure your content isn't all over the place. Now I do not cover a topic completely, I only go for easy keywords within a topical cluster. I still end up with enough articles that I gain topical authority. Then I move on to another closely related topic etc.

TDLR: Pick good keywords and a strong domain. You won't be disappointed

SeasonedCode · Jul 12, 2023

Thank you @splishsplash for the great and solid info you are giving,
I have learned a lot from you

splishsplash · Jul 12, 2023

tNK said:
Understood. Can you give me an example of

Pick a sub-sub-sub-niche and write everything you can about it.

Then move to the next sub-sub-sub-niche and write everything about that.

Using a random niche so I can understand better of it.

Bahamas.

If you plug that into a tool like semrush keyword magic you get 33,425 questions. You could build a small bahamas authority site with at least 1000 articles on it. Just on the bahamas. But most people will create a travel site, create 1 article on the bahmas, then another on some other travel topic, send some links to those pages with exact anchors and wonder why they don't rank.

DeadJoe said:
This is how it works. I use aged domains and don't bother building links tbh, if I do it's very few. The domain already has the links.

Almost all of my articles rank first page, I choose keywords wisely but the thing is I never point any links towards any new content that I add. If you look at the SERPs this is how everyone else is doing it as well. People chasing long tails can't build links to every single page (use common sense).

Make sure your content isn't all over the place. Now I do not cover a topic completely, I only go for easy keywords within a topical cluster. I still end up with enough articles that I gain topical authority. Then I move on to another closely related topic etc.

TDLR: Pick good keywords and a strong domain. You won't be disappointed

Yep, because the site is plugged into the socket. It's juiced up already. All you have to do is build topical authority and make sure you've built a few of the old pages to route that juice in to the site. None of your new articles will have links, but they'll all rank because the site gets juice in.

KHer0 · Jul 12, 2023

I am here just to agree with each word! No kidding, these info worth all 4 figures courses combined, and I love you for taking the time share it.

You Need a color on your own for the information you provide.

And you need to teach me how to share my thoughts and finding like you. Everything you share aligns prefectly with my findings and I am like, damn, I hoped if I were the one to write it.

sscaz · Jul 12, 2023

splishsplash said:
So why are you only making a couple grand a month then?

If this works and you can rank sites like that, and you've been doing it since 2021, you should be clearing 6 figures per month minimum.

That stuff does NOT work. If it did work, I wouldn't even bother with auction domains. I'd just spam.

What's more likely is you created a site with a bunch of low comp PAA keywords that would have ranked without a single link.

I don't even know what to say to this. Are you seriously trying to tell us you can blast a site with exact match anchor GSA spam and rank?

If that were the case I'd just quit SEO now and never write another thing. It basically means everything I write is complete BS and all you have to do is spam your site with some exacts and boom, $$$$

Also, is this not a conradiction here?

https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/how-i-ranked-first-for-hard-keywords-and-generated-10-40k-visitors-with-0-backlinks.1482720/
You're talking about an anime site you ranked with no backlinks. Now, conveniently you're saying you used GSA with exact match anchors and it worked, which just proves my entire foundational SEO knowledge wrong.

You say this

So which is it, GSA backlinks or youtube deals?

Because it's different, pirate websites ain't as regulated as other stuff; the anime website is Balkan based while the manga website was English based hence the different approach. Never bought one backlink for it, there are hundreds of other manga english websites.

Even though domain expired and 2 years passed it still has 40k backlinks left on it spammed from gsa as you can see. There were already tens of manga english sites ranking for all those manga. It's either gsa backlink spam or the social media posting spam, since i didn't do anything else since that manga site was an experiment that i never excepted to grow that much.

Kinu Actaz said:
How long did it last?

around 6-7 months but dmca removals were destroying it, untill even home url was removed due to dmca, later argued with other owner and we shut it down

splishsplash · Jul 12, 2023

KHer0 said:
I am here just to agree with each word! No kidding, these info worth all 4 figures combined, and I love you for taking the time share it.

You Need a color on your own for the information you provide.

And you need to teach me how to share my thoughts and finding like you. Everything you share aligns prefectly with my findings and I am like, damn, I hoped if I were the one to write it.

Thanks kher0

It's a hard one to convince people of because of anecdotal evidence.

If you have a good page that's well optimized on a nice healthy site, you will get more of a boost by linking to that page directly. Especially if the site you link from has topical authority close to it.

This also confuses people into thinking you need relevant links to rank.

You don't, but they help.

That doesn't mean a weak relevant link is better than a non-relevant strong link. It's not even close. But a *strong* relevant link is going to be extra good.

You do juice up everything by linking to any page as long as google counts it, but

If you link from site A that has topical authority for the bahamas, to your page about the bahamas, then that page could go up more as long as it's the on-page is good, and also any articles on your site that are about the bahamas will receive a bigger boost, followed by anything non-bahamas.

This is what makes it confusing. People see this and thus think "Ok I need to rank pages with links".

And the biggest problem with that is when people link to absolutely dead pages that aren't ever going to rank, and they see nothing, then decide that the link doesn't work even though the rest of their site increased.

tNK · Jul 12, 2023

The amount I just learned in this thread is insane.

I had a question about aged domains. Should I buy random aged domains and use them to make blogs? Or is it better if I buy domains with keywords in the domain name itself that fit my niche.

sscaz · Jul 12, 2023

sscaz said:
Because it's different, pirate websites ain't as regulated as other stuff; the anime website is Balkan based while the manga website was English based hence the different approach. Never bought one backlink for it, there are hundreds of other manga english websites.
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Even though domain expired and 2 years passed it still has 40k backlinks left on it spammed from gsa as you can see. There were already tens of manga english sites ranking for all those manga. It's either gsa backlink spam or the social media posting spam, since i didn't do anything else since that manga site was an experiment that i never excepted to grow that much.

around 6-7 months but dmca removals were destroying it, untill even home url was removed due to dmca, later argued with other owner and we shut it down

And by the way @splishsplash i am not trying to argue or say that you're wrong or anything i just told you my expirience for the manga site, i am sure it doesn't works for 99% of other niches, heck might not work for anime/manga niche anymore as well.

splishsplash said:
Yep, because the site is plugged into the socket. It's juiced up already. All you have to do is build topical authority and make sure you've built a few of the old pages to route that juice in to the site. None of your new articles will have links, but they'll all rank because the site gets juice in.

What if you buy old domains like that and just redirect it to your main website?

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