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PBN - What I do not understand

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by erichon, May 10, 2014.

  1. erichon

    erichon Regular Member

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    Hi specialists,

    there are some things I do not understand correctly, when it comes to SEO a PBN.
    Lets assume you have a PBN pointing to three different money sites.
    1. Is it ok to interlink the money sites?
    2. For the money sites there is no need of Whois protection?
    3. Whois protection for the PBN sites: I understand not to leave footprints, but assume these sites are authority sites as well, what is the problem google knowing that these sites are owned by the same person? Do they devalue links from sites of the same owner?
    4. If you create a PBN you should do it by own domains and different hosting. But what is the difference to building the PBN with web2.0s? Are they not worth the same as domains that are hosted somewhere?
    5. There is some advice here that you linkwheel web 2.0 to pass link juice and authority, on the other hand people say that you must not interlink sites belonging to a PBN, so for me this is a contrary thing. Which is true?

    Please shed some light on this issues.

    Thx
     
  2. asap1

    asap1 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    #3 - Its not that Google will devalue your site because you own multiple authority sites its just leaving a footprint and you dont want to leave 1 footprint at all

    #4 - I dont understand what your saying but use different hosting, its proven to work and if its not broken dont fix it.
     
  3. erichon

    erichon Regular Member

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    #3 Not leaving a footprint, but what is the consequence of google realizing you link to another site?
    #4 Version 1: Lets say you have some sites on different hosts with different registrar pointing to your money site
    Version 2: You have some Web 2.0 sites pointing to your money site
    What is the difference? Which is better and why?
     
  4. asap1

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    #3 - that is leaving a footprint because they will see that you own all these websites and they are all linking to the same thing.

    #4 - You have it mixed up, a PBN is made up of web 2.0s the only thing that makes it a "PBN" is they are usually High PR authority sites.

    Anyway Version 1 - would be the same as Version 2 UNLESS the web 2.0s in version 1 are high PR PBN websites.

    Hope I didnt confuse you

    **Edit**

    I think I understand you, by web 2.0 do you mean like a subdomain website?
     
  5. erichon

    erichon Regular Member

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    Thx

    #3 Yes I know, but what is the problem if they all link to the same site? Lets say a site about Bali lins to a site about Singapore, and another site about China links to the same Singapore site, all owned by one person, what is the problem?

    #4 I meant with web 2.0 like squidoo lenses or hubpages or weebly etc. Instead of spending in domains and hosting, a PBN can be made from these web2.0 properties as well?
     
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  6. cyber.surfer

    cyber.surfer Regular Member

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    My 2 cent:
    There is no problem if they all link to the same money site but if google finds out that all the site that are linking to your money site is owned by same person then it will assume that it is being done on a purpose and your sites will be penalized. But if your domain is whois protected google will have no idea about the real owner of the sites and you can feel more safer. Make your pbn sites look much natural as you can.
    Use web 2.0 as a tiered link building service to pass on link juice to tier 1 sites. IMO as web2.0 is not totally private and can be taken down at any point so it asked to avoid them as using tier 1 sites.
     
  7. erichon

    erichon Regular Member

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    Ahh thanks, now I understand the issue with the web2.0 as they can be taken down easily.

    "your sites will be penalized" - even if all the sites are niche related, have unique content (about 1000 words each post) and have around 200 pages each site?
     
  8. InsanelySane

    InsanelySane Power Member

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    Op.

    Dont interlink anything
    Web 2.0s have no PR or PA, thats why they're not good link farms
    Having 30 PBNs pointing to 1 server 30 time is a footprint, people just dont mention it much
     
  9. ill-repute

    ill-repute Registered Member

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    Whois protection isn't only used by internet marketers to hide their tracks. I made the mistake of not paying for whois protection once, and I received some junk mail as a result. It's not as if you're going to raise any red flags because the sites in your network have that protection.
     
  10. jazzthelinden

    jazzthelinden Newbie

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    The problem with google knowing your sites are linked to by your own PBNs shows that you are manipulating their search results. And they simply ban you.