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Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Good42, Aug 5, 2017.

  1. Good42

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    Hello,

    When buying domains, is it safe to have them all under 1 account (domain registrar)? Is buying whois enough to hide from google?

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  2. Ste Fishkin

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    Google are an ISP, they have direct access to who is info. Buying privacy is a waste of time.
     
  3. Good42

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    Also, what if I buy fresh new domains and build backlinks to them, does it work or would I better buy expired domains.

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  4. Good42

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    So, I would need 1 fake contact info for each domain I buy?
     
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    Yes
     
  6. Good42

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    https://moz.com/community/q/does-google-check-whois

    So which is true?
     
  7. Good42

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    Also read this - "They don't have access to WHOIS data protected by privately registration"

    from https://www.webmasterworld.com/google/4587418.htm

    What is right?
     
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    I also think google cant access whois data if it is private.....coz then its not privacy
     
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    Want some advice? Pretend like they have all the access in the world. Then it doesn't matter.
     
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    didn't get u.
     
  12. RealGibson

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    Use different registration companies, fake user profiles (etc).
     
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    A fake name and profile would do. It would be better if you can spread out your registrars to at least 5-10 for a decent sized PBN.
     
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    As the saying goes, it's better to be safe than sorry.

    Register different names/profiles for each domain under as many different registrars as possible. You want to minimise the chances of your network being uncovered by Google or anyone else for that matter, especially competitors.
     
  15. Nargil

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    I personally do not believe Google sees Whois data, never seen a proof of that. Though I keep an open mind about this. It's of course ideal to go with fake details when possible.

    Regarding registrars, there is plenty of good ones, namesilo, namecheap, dynadot, hover, namebright are all great. Definitely avoid Enom, Network Solutions, Register, Godaddy and 1and1 if you can.
     
  16. RealGibson

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    Curious to know why you list GoDaddy and 1and1 to avoid. They're pretty big. The percentage of people having the same registrar through GoDaddy and 1and1 are pretty high, even if not connected in any way. I understand the "reduce your footprint" but I literally have all of PBN sites listed through GoDaddy - never had an issue and support has been tremendous.

    Just curious to know your take.
     
  17. Nargil

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    Well Godady is one of the more acceptable ones out of those that I have mentioned. Reason to avoid them is their fees. They are unbelievably expensive, especially the renewal fees. Not as brutal as Enom or Network Solutions, but high nonetheless.

    1and1 on the other hand is beyond catastrophic. There's more than enough horror stories all over the BHW and internet about those guys.
     
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    Find hosting over some resellers. They usually have more then 50 different accounts at bigger hosting companies. And you get unique IPs as well. Recommendation is multiplecloud or bigfoothosting. Depending you want dedicated or shared IPs. I have experience in shared IPs and no problem at all. PBN is alive and indexed for over 15 months.
     
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    I get it. I personally don't have any with 1and1, but have numerous clients with them. I stick with GoDaddy just because I like one central dashboard for my domains. My hosting on the other hand, is spread out everywhere. My biggest personal horror stories have been with Network Solutions... what a disaster.
     
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    I am fairly sure you won't beat this - https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/registrar-leaks-credit-card-details.951153/