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PayPal = Satan. Period.

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by 44proseries, Aug 28, 2012.

  1. 44proseries

    44proseries Junior Member

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    So I got one of those lovely emails this morning saying my account had been limited. Lovely, right?

    Well, I uploaded all the documents they required, ie: ID, Utility Bill, Address Confirmation, blah blah.

    I then called them so I could expedite the review. Everything was fine, then they asked some security questions. I answered them correctly. I was then placed on hold for about 5 minutes, and then they told me that my funds would be frozen for 180 days. Great!!! HA!

    I then thanked the lady for her help, and am now planning my plan of attack. I dropship items on ebay, and apparently she said that PayPal doesn't like that. She said I was "high-risk". I have perfect credit, and a good record with PayPal. This account is over 4 years old. What a load of horse shit!

    Anyhow, anyone here have any tips for writing a letter/email that intimidates them enough to release the hold?

    I appreciate any advice!! Thanks.
     
  2. bigwhite

    bigwhite Regular Member

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    They wont lift that 180 day hold. Trust me. Once they do that you are 99.9% screwed. I bitched on the phone for like 30 minutes about mine before.
     
  3. Aty

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    That sucks mate. I think you can kiss your money goodbye. Wonder why? `Cause when you sign up for a Paypal account you actually agree to let them screw you whenever they what and how they want. I never keep more than $200 in my account.
     
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  4. MarkKB

    MarkKB Newbie

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    These stories happen everyday - and it happened to me. My suggestion: never use PayPal
     
  5. rachelmarieluv

    rachelmarieluv Junior Member

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    Is google checkout any better?
     
  6. BLIXX

    BLIXX Regular Member

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    Become incorporated or DBA. I promise, after doing so you'll have ZERO problems.

    PayPal is not unlike the lot of us: they simply wish to make money in the most stable, legitimate way(s) possible.

    Show them that the manner in which money is flowing into your PayPal account is, by definition, legitimate; then, you'll see very few -- if any -- problems.
     
  7. SmileAtmyWins

    SmileAtmyWins BANNED BANNED

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    They do that shit man. It happens when going through Paypal. The best you can do is try and hire someone here to get your money out or your account unlimited. Other than that, wait 180 days.
     
  8. Dumper

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    I don't think they mess with business accounts, i've never had an issue with mine...
     
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  9. BLIXX

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    lol, right?

    Instead, we get thread upon thread from low-rent vultures about how PayPal is organised crime, out to dupe the common man out of his well-earned money, lmao.

    Bullshit.

    Get legitimate or face the inevitable consequences, people.
     
  10. 44proseries

    44proseries Junior Member

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    Sorry, but this made me laugh. This was a legitimate account. It was old, and hasn't had a single problem since inception. I had done well over $100,000 in sales this year alone, and all of a sudden they say they are uncomfortable.

    And about facing the consequences, I have to laugh at that. Consequences of what? Having a perfect feedback record with over 7000 transactions? Not a single dispute, ever? Hmm... It seems I did it all wrong.
     
  11. zebrahat

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    Being legit or not legit in one's own business does not change the reality that Paypal is NOT LEGIT itself. Most of the victims here are running legit businesses, and had zero past credit or activity issues with Paypal. The processor is just crappy and arbitrary.
     
  12. mrunknown

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    were you by any chance making your sales though Ebay or your own website? I assume Ebay
     
  13. JimmyWong

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    How did they cotton to you? I feel you may be omitting some information my chum.
     
  14. SmileAtmyWins

    SmileAtmyWins BANNED BANNED

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    Actually, my account was a premier business account that was 4 years old. They banned me because someone who had a banned account, used my computer. Period. Understand both sides of a story before commenting. It helps.
     
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    lol...
     
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    Paypal is ridiculous. Sorry you have to deal with them. In my opinion, it's ridiculous to say that someone is high-risk just because they dropship. What effing sense does that make?

    I've never been limited, but I'm expecting it will just be a matter of time. Hopefully other payment processors will become more popular and the whole Ebay/paypal company gets pushed to the bottom where they belong.
     
  17. JimmyWong

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    Amazon - please bring out a Payment Processor.

    Yours truly,

    The World.
     
  18. seohamster

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    They DO have a payment processor and I use them well over any others :)

    Just google it ;) or go to payments.amazon.com
     
  19. Aegroeg

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    Never you mind.
    I already hate them and Ive only had a minor hold once. But it got lifted early because I bitched and whined for about an hour over the phone.

    This week, I emailed them with a general question about limits and got a response saying I "have no limits". "But there is a Government limit and my money will be held until I transfer documents. "Guessing I can kiss my money bye bye.

    One half of the email was all about how I wont be held back nomatter what I send or receive, then the other half says "But you will after £1700 " haha >_>

    Edit: And that first hold? They emailed saying they were protecting my buyers. WHAT FUCKING BUYERS?? I dont sell on Ebay or haven't in years. lol I was getting a payment from a friend for music, all legal, no Ebay involved. So after explaining this they apologised. I asked them what makes them think they have the right to deserve where my money comes with no information and they said its the law.

    What the law to say " She has too much money, lets hold it and see what happens. " Probably playing around with it and tried to invest it like the banks do.
     
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  20. BLIXX

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    I understand things fine. From PayPal's point of view, you were high risk; birds of a feather flock together and all that.

    Guilt by association is frustrating, yes, especially when one has no intent whatsoever of trying to game PayPal. But PayPal cannot statistically calculate intent, what it can statistically calculate are potentialities and likelihoods of future terms violations via associations. It is no mere coincidence, for example, that a Blackhat forum is packed to the rafters with "PayPal is the devil incarnate" threads: simple participation in this forum would likely place the lot of us, ipso facto, towards the extreme end of PayPal's risk continuum.