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Fucked by a paypal?

  • Yes

    Votes: 18 78.3%

  • I still wait for my turn

    Votes: 5 21.7%
  • Total voters
    23
Most of the payments are over $1K, I don't bother about small ones because if I get a chargeback, I rather refund without wasting time to try and win it. No point as you probably not going to win it anyway. Though majority of payments are in thousands and if someone asks for refund, they do it personally first, then we have a talk as to why they want a refund and usually, after discussion, we come up with a new plan or silution to work it out. Before people send me the money, they had some sort of interaction with me either via Skype, Email or otherwise.

I don't deal with shady people, it's quite easy to identify them - if they are very nervous to send you money or don't want to send 100% payment upfront. Also, if they don't have my desired budget or beg to do massive discounts (like 70% off), I mostly don't deal with such people as they are likely to chargeback. Or ask for refund after work is done anyway.
 
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paja93 said:
I will just turn off internet transactions until i see what will they decide. Im not really ambitious to spend time on them for $100 but still im really
tough when its about my money and i won't forgive them a dollar if it's taken from me just like that.
I guess they will spam my email to fill up the balance or something and i don't really believe they have rights to take money from my cc but if they do try, well it's my move then :anyway:
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$100 is nothing, deal with my 5k ;)

1. I was selling product, outside BHW one year ago in November, buyers could contact themself
2. Day 179th (180 days for refund), one guy asked for refund, "item not received"
3. The same buyer come to group chat and started PMing buyers to do the same and he... will pay them %
4. 5 buyers (some 10% of old product) requested refund for 1k
5. I delivered documents, conversations, chat screenshots, emails to PayPal
6. PayPal decided to their favor
7. Product stolen, -5k$ debt
8. PayPal wrote emails
9. PayPal added me to debt agency
10. I told debt agency "fck off, we can meet in court"
11. Silence :)

But I am banned in PayPal of course
 
vinku said:
$100 is nothing, deal with my 5k ;)

1. I was selling product, outside BHW one year ago in November, buyers could contact themself
2. Day 179th (180 days for refund), one guy asked for refund, "item not received"
3. The same buyer come to group chat and started PMing buyers to do the same and he... will pay them %
4. 5 buyers (some 10% of old product) requested refund for 1k
5. I delivered documents, conversations, chat screenshots, emails to PayPal
6. PayPal decided to their favor
7. Product stolen, -5k$ debt
8. PayPal wrote emails
9. PayPal added me to debt agency
10. I told debt agency "fck off, we can meet in court"
11. Silence :)

But I am banned in PayPal of course
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That's a really shitty situation to be honest. I haven't ran into any problems with PayPal for a while now. I wish it would die, but the fact is it's so popular and easy that not offering it, you'd leave money on the table. In your case, I'd make a stealth account personally.
 
Why can't we use something simple like Square Cash. You can't chargeback.
 
Daddykins said:
That's a really shitty situation to be honest. I haven't ran into any problems with PayPal for a while now. I wish it would die, but the fact is it's so popular and easy that not offering it, you'd leave money on the table. In your case, I'd make a stealth account personally.
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Probably Ill make, I am missing many chances and transactions for thousands ;)
 
vinku said:
$100 is nothing, deal with my 5k ;)

1. I was selling product, outside BHW one year ago in November, buyers could contact themself
2. Day 179th (180 days for refund), one guy asked for refund, "item not received"
3. The same buyer come to group chat and started PMing buyers to do the same and he... will pay them %
4. 5 buyers (some 10% of old product) requested refund for 1k
5. I delivered documents, conversations, chat screenshots, emails to PayPal
6. PayPal decided to their favor
7. Product stolen, -5k$ debt
8. PayPal wrote emails
9. PayPal added me to debt agency
10. I told debt agency "fck off, we can meet in court"
11. Silence :)

But I am banned in PayPal of course
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That what im saying, $100 is nothing but they are bitches, doesn't matter if it's $100 or $1000, they will protect their valuable buyers.
 
Social God said:
Why can't we use something simple like Square Cash. You can't chargeback.
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Because you are selling mostly to no techie noobs. Im ready to use bitcoin all the time but i can't because most people don't use it, they use paypal.
 
paja93 said:
Because you are selling mostly to no techie noobs. Im ready to use bitcoin all the time but i can't because most people don't use it, they use paypal.
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Bitcoin is so volatile so I never keep money in bitcoin. Everytime I want to purchase something, it takes a while to get, but if I keep $50 in bitcoin, I'd like it to retain that value. If that were the case, it would have a chance of actually being used. PayPal is just easy. I could send a payment in less than 30 seconds.
 
paypal suck d*** ,they thought they can take my hard earned money .... 9k in debt they can suck my fat d*** , i live in a 3rth world country .
CATCH ME IF YOU CAN
 
paja93 said:
Do anyone knows what happens when you leave paypal with negative balance? Because of cases like these ones i very often move funds from pp and i did that few days ago, i had like few $ left. If they give it to the buyer, they are losing $$$ and im not going to fund that for sure.
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If it's fake with real info. Some poor person needs to prove they didn't open that .
If it's fake with fake info. Some random person will get letters under your fake name that tell them to pay. Sometimes they will go to the house so they will have to say "who? ..oh you have the wrong house " or "yeah I'm not sure what happened I keep getting letters under that person's name " . Then they will realize they can't get the money and stop trying and take a loss.

If it's real you will fuck up your credit (in the USA I was told. They had my ssn ) and be hassled for months and months sometimes a year like me(well about 8 months) . I was 16 at the time and after they realized that they stopped bugging me.

Pay it if you have real info .otherwise dont pay it if you delivered a good product/service and got scammed . Only if it's not worth to keep a account that is worth probably 500-800$ if it's aged and has a lot transactions.
 
haroune fahl said:
paypal suck d*** ,they thought they can take my hard earned money .... 9k in debt they can suck my fat d*** , i live in a 3rth world country .
CATCH ME IF YOU CAN
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Bazinga!



watch
 
paja93 said:
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I mean, what can be better than the service that give a chance to a buyer you don't even have a clue who he is to ask for refund after almost 4 months? I expected "order not received", but now is unauthorized transactions, that's a new level!
OK, it's 100 bucks now, got lucky(??). I already lost probably.
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This reminds me of this claim on paypal I had some times ago: https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/can-i-win-this-chargeback.1076039/#post-11612844

After this guy issued me the paypal claim, I send him an email telling him I blocked his account on my store and also sent his paypal address to an agency that take care of a database of online fraud accounts, so he is gonna face hard times to pay again on websites online. I've also told him I could erase the fraud notification to that agency if he gave up the claim on paypal.

He gave up.
Sometimes bluffing works
 
Daddykins said:
Bitcoin is so volatile so I never keep money in bitcoin. Everytime I want to purchase something, it takes a while to get, but if I keep $50 in bitcoin, I'd like it to retain that value. If that were the case, it would have a chance of actually being used. PayPal is just easy. I could send a payment in less than 30 seconds.
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It was just an example. I don't mind that volatility, i convert almost everything to crypto... but people generally won't use some other payment services because they heard and know just for paypal.

ilovetobun69 said:
If it's fake with real info. Some poor person needs to prove they didn't open that .
If it's fake with fake info. Some random person will get letters under your fake name that tell them to pay. Sometimes they will go to the house so they will have to say "who? ..oh you have the wrong house " or "yeah I'm not sure what happened I keep getting letters under that person's name " . Then they will realize they can't get the money and stop trying and take a loss.

If it's real you will fuck up your credit (in the USA I was told. They had my ssn ) and be hassled for months and months sometimes a year like me(well about 8 months) . I was 16 at the time and after they realized that they stopped bugging me.

Pay it if you have real info .otherwise dont pay it if you delivered a good product/service and got scammed . Only if it's not worth to keep a account that is worth probably 500-800$ if it's aged and has a lot transactions.
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It's real account, but like i said im not from US and i was there, i would care. But here where i am, i really don't. I wouldn't really much care if i had some debts here in my place... but i was just wondering.
 
paja93 said:
It was just an example. I don't mind that volatility, i convert almost everything to crypto... but people generally won't use some other payment services because they heard and know just for paypal.



It's real account, but like i said im not from US and i was there, i would care. But here where i am, i really don't. I wouldn't really much care if i had some debts here in my place... but i was just wondering.
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i would pay it if your account is worth more than the debit
 
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