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Paranoid about ClickBank Product

Discussion in 'Clickbank' started by Deevo, Aug 23, 2011.

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  1. Deevo

    Deevo Registered Member

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    Hey guys,
    Getting alot of clicks on a clickbank product that I'm advertising, but it's not showing any order form impressions. Started to get a little curious so I went on another computer, used my hop link and went to the order form. It increased the numbers on the hop count, but still nothing is showing on the order form impressions.

    Is it possible for product owners to divert the hop link somehow, therefore avoiding paying any commissions on sales??
     
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    yeah it's possible but most vendors don't do that.

    Worst case is when someone clicks the buy now button on the sales page it could stuff a cookie that would overwrite yours and then the vendor would never have to pay commissions. Of course that's a very extreme example and if CB caught them (which it would) they'd have their product and account banned. An even better reason why they wouldn't do that though is if affiliates don't see any sales they won't bother to keep promoting. Vendors need affiliates, so it would be extremely rare to see anything like that if ever at all.

    The vendor might also do things like have an optin form in which people will join the optin list instead of ordering right away and then the vendor will try to make another sale by email. It's possible that some vendors might include their own hoplink in a newsletter sent to their list, but that's usually not malicious and only done by inexperienced vendors that don't realize the consequences to the affiliates. Most vendors will only include a link back to their sales page or direct link to the payment page which won't overwrite the affiliates cookie. The reason for this again is because vendors need affiliates.

    The vendor will make more money by letting affiliates make sales and pay them a commission, it's not in their interest to cut the affiliate out because then they'll lose their sales force. Most of the time if a vendor is building a list or doing second chance offers or anything else like that it's good for the affiliate because it means there's a better chance of making a sale, but the vendor needs to do it in such a way as to leave the affiliates cookie intact.

    The way to make sure none of that is happening is to follow your hoplink all the way to the sales page. Click on your hoplink and it takes you to the sales page, click on the order button and it takes you to the order page, scroll down to the bottom of the page and make sure your id is showing as the affiliate. If there's an optin form on the sales page then fill it out, (use a throwaway email addy if you want), then check for the follow up emails and follow the instructions, when it gives you the opportunity then follow the link to the order page, check again to be sure your affiliate id shows at the bottom of the order page.

    Once you've done that test and see your affiliate id on the order page then you know if the vendor is doing everything right. Most likely that's what you'll always find.

    Another thing to check after you followed the link to the order form is check your stats (you might need to wait a few hours or even a day for it to register), since you went there you should see an order form impression in your stats. If not then it's a problem with cb, not with the vendor. Most likely though everything will track fine. (When you did that test, how long did you wait before you checked for that? There's usually a delay before things show in the CB stats.).

    I suspect your problem has more to do with how qualified your traffic is. You may be getting enough interest for them to click the hoplink, but once they get to the sales page they might not be targeted enough to decide to order. Or it could just be a crappy salespage that doesn't convert. In the first case you'll need to target your traffic better, for the second case you'll have to figure out how to presell the offer yourself first or just move on to a better converting product.

    Hope that helps. :cool:
     
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    If your product has a refund policy. Have a friend or sibling buy it and see if it shows up as a sale then ask for a refund.
     
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    Thanks alot for that in depth reply. All I got over at Wicked Fire was a bunch of morons trying to be funny. I think I'll stay put at this forum for now lol

    Turns out that the ClickBank stats were delayed about 12hrs :rolleyes: Usually it's been faster than that, 1-3hrs at most.

    Thanks again though ;)
     
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    ^ Always wait at least 24 hours for the stats to update before taking any further action. Sometimes things just get delayed.
     
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    Don't waste time being paranoid and looking at your stats. The system works just fine. Instead spend your time improving your SEO and content to get more hops.