DR Resolved pankajjangir vs Deleted member 752298

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Yesterday, he tried to charge my card one last time (maybe not) for the inactive/cancelled monthly subscription from 2022. Be careful guys, make sure to change your card details or disable it for online purchases.

Kudos to the forum staff. I was mad at first that they let him continue to provide a dogshit service. After knowing the guy, I'm pretty sure they have been fooled by the same promises.
 
Yesterday, he tried to charge my card one last time (maybe not) for the inactive/cancelled monthly subscription from 2022. Be careful guys, make sure to change your card details or disable it for online purchases.

Kudos to the forum staff. I was mad at first that they let him continue to provide a dogshit service. After knowing the guy, I'm pretty sure they have been fooled by the same promises.
When he was initially banned, he sent a ticket into support saying he would make things right if we allowed him back on.

Several staff members were involved in discussing that decision, and ultimately, we thought he was being honest and thought it best for the community.

He had already had his Executive VIP badge removed due to his poor performance as a seller, which was consuming significantly more resources than he was contributing, as that is not becoming of an Executive VIP.

Why he turned from an honest businessman to what he has become is unfathomable.
 
Yesterday, he tried to charge my card one last time (maybe not) for the inactive/cancelled monthly subscription from 2022. Be careful guys, make sure to change your card details or disable it for online purchases.
Do you have any proof of that? A failed charge or even an attempt would still show up in most banks' and online banking systems' history/activity... could you share a screenshot of that attempt, please? Thanks!

Anyone else getting charged??
 
Do you have any proof of that? A failed charge or even an attempt would still show up in most banks' and online banking systems' history/activity... could you share a screenshot of that attempt, please? Thanks!

Anyone else getting charged??
It's been going on for months now, people are getting charged for their old subscriptions. It's nothing new. My bank app doesn't let me take a screenshot. I was just letting people know, he's out of business but still didn't turn off the subscriptions.
 
Yesterday, he tried to charge my card one last time (maybe not) for the inactive/cancelled monthly subscription from 2022. Be careful guys, make sure to change your card details or disable it for online purchases.

Kudos to the forum staff. I was mad at first that they let him continue to provide a dogshit service. After knowing the guy, I'm pretty sure they have been fooled by the same promises.
I'm quite convinced this has been done systematically, at scale, and for a lengthy period of time, which definitely makes it a criminal offense. I don't know about Dutch legislation specifically (he is from the Netherlands), but since most laws in the EU are harmonized, and me being from another EU country, I believe it's fair to say that this level of fraud would carry a prison sentence (if prosecuted and proven guilty, of course). He would also be banned from running a business for X number of years.

There are plenty of GPL sites out there operating just fine, and there is certainly a good reason why WordPress chose to only go after this guy. In the case files there were mentions that WP had received multiple complaints about FV from all over. His assets were frozen during the lawsuit as well, and that's normally not done unless there's a clear risk the person and/or the funds will disappear.
 
It confuses me why he promised to refund people and returned only to get banned again, as it seems he probably didn't anticipate such a large number of requests for refunds.
This will almost certainly be it. By being less than active on BHW for quite some time, he was probably unaware of the sheer number of complaints his service had received across numerous threads for months now. Only when he engaged with this thread (to a point) did he realise what a hole he was in.

My feeling here is that at some point things started to become too much for him and it all fell in on top of him. It happens in business and in life. A real shame as it was an admired service that many people had great experiences with but all that good faith has gone now. I hope everyone is refunded but also that he sorts himself out and is able to start running a competent service again.
 
It's been going on for months now, people are getting charged for their old subscriptions. It's nothing new. My bank app doesn't let me take a screenshot. I was just letting people know, he's out of business but still didn't turn off the subscriptions.
Same experience here. I had to cancel it using PayPal because it kept charging me even though I stopped subscription on his website.
 
IMO, the main issue was reopening the BST thread after the lawsuit / case. That should have been the end, but it was dragged for so long that it became 20x worse for him. Too bad, he was a good member here.
 
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It was over when the lawsuit hit, I thought it was odd when he re launched the vault but for free although it never worked properly

I think LFT deals like on appsumo never work if you use a service pay monthly it supports the project and you dont ever get caught out.
 
It was over when the lawsuit hit, I thought it was odd when he re launched the vault but for free although it never worked properly

I think LFT deals like on appsumo never work if you use a service pay monthly it supports the project and you dont ever get caught out.
Having a "lifetime" subscription in any product's pricing page should be a huge red flag tbh. Not sure why people are jumping ont it.
 
Having a "lifetime" subscription in any product's pricing page should be a huge red flag tbh. Not sure why people are jumping ont it.
Yep, or at least it needs to be stated that lifetime means until the project, software, etc works. Especially when your business is around nulled themes and plugins and copyrighted stuff, then surely that can blow anytime, and refunding all people is really hard.
 
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So what's the alternative now?
I'd suggest this isn't the appropriate place for discussing alternative services. We'd prefer it if this thread was kept to issues surrounding Deleted member 752298. But we'd be absolutely fine with your or anyone else starting a standalone thread about alternatives to his service.
 
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