Over Optimization Penalty Launched Today

OK, thought this might help you guys...

I have around 130 SEO clients and checked each and any client's rankings - from all these ONLY 3 dropped like flies, which is quite a good ratio lol.
What I do:
- first 1-2 months: ONLY web directories/social bookmarks (but doing it slow and steadily)
- depending on how/if they move I started using web 2.0s, article marketing, some private networks blog posts
- I NEVER stopped building links using wd/sb, this is continuous to ensure a stable link growth
- anchor variation: I used brand names for few links, nothing special; however, I am using about 7-10 anchors/client
- deep linking: the clients that dropped had links pointing only to their homepage, the rest have inner links as well (including to about us page with anchor such as "about brand name")

I am still under paranoia but getting over these 2 days is looking good. I think velocity/anchor diversity plaid a huge role here. No SB/Xrumer directly to websites. Steady link building.

Hope it helps.
 
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/\ This update has more to do with on site rather than off site. Those 3 clients that you say dropped like flies...what does their on site look like?
 
Same as the rest, nothing special.
This update has 99% to do with link building.
 
Ramsweb said:
/\ This update has more to do with on site rather than off site.
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kappa84 said:
This update has 99% to do with link building.
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ROTFL, this is precious.
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This update is not yet clear, some of my sites gone down and some getting rank. Those sites which i use for linkbuilding with unique content slowly have no harmful affects. These thing will clear sooon, google like a silly old rich man who want us to dance with their policies and the rules with no-sense.
Low/bad quality sites and low quality contents are not helping alot.
 
I am not sure on this, but I found all my unaffected sites have the following
1. high deep linking vs homepage link ratio. Number of backlinks on inner links are higher than number of banklinks on homepage.
2. not much seo promotion lately , just social bookmarking.

How about you guys?
 
These rankings won't stay but right now they are making me very happy. All the sites I worked on from 2012 are ranking on the first page, I have a site which jumped from page 3 to position 5 after the update.
All I seem to be doing different is very high quality manual article submissions and hand spun + manual optimized web 2.0 properties, along with all automated backlinks in both second and third tier of my linkwheel.
 
BFHoodn!nja said:
These rankings won't stay but right now they are making me very happy. All the sites I worked on from 2012 are ranking on the first page, I have a site which jumped from page 3 to position 5 after the update.
All I seem to be doing different is very high quality manual article submissions and hand spun + manual optimized web 2.0 properties, along with all automated backlinks in both second and third tier of my linkwheel.
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Hi,
One question; did the sites you worked on from 2012 have a wider variety of keyword targets?
 
Ontheball said:
Hi,
One question; did the sites you worked on from 2012 have a wider variety of keyword targets?
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Not exactly, they are all EMD's with just a few main keywords in mind, but as for my content and first tier properties I did use a wide variety of niche related topics and anchor texts.
 
BFHoodn!nja said:
Not exactly, they are all EMD's with just a few main keywords in mind, but as for my content and first tier properties I did use a wide variety of niche related topics and anchor texts.
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Did you use a wider variety of anchors than on the previous sites that have been hit.
thanks
 
Ontheball said:
Did you use a wider variety of anchors than on the previous sites that have been hit.
thanks
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I never got hit hard but yes, over the last few months and weeks I have been expanding my linkwheel. The manual handspun web 2.0's and aDirectories carry the most weight towards the main keyword anchor and my site, everything automated through amr, bmd and senuke has a very wide variety in keywords. Almost 80% of the Tier 3 anchors pointing to my manual properties (SB+Xrumer) are random anchors in niche and pointer words.

In the last few weeks I was losing some hope and was doing 500+ Social Bookmarks weekly to my money site and inner inner pages with my main keywords in the title
 
The first page results for my niche where I used to be #1 for main keyword (Now #9) goes something like this:

1. Company1.com
2. Company1.com/contact
3. Company2.com
4. Company2.com/form
5. Company2.com/randompage
6. ShitCompany3.com
7. ShitCompany3.com/keyword
8. Company4.com
9 MyCompany.com

I would rather see 10 unique search results instead of the inner pages of same domains.

There is no way the big G can keep this update as SERPS are so low quality!
 
zb.ouykcuf said:
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Lol, I'm pretty sure you spammed one of my blogs a couple times with SB. Occasionally I choose a site and dig through the comments looking for anything interesting - it was actually a local political campaign that caught my eye at the time if that was you...
 
I think that google will have to change this update somehow, because it would badly hurt their search results. People who spend lot of time building quality content on their sites are very likely the same who spend time and money on seo. So this way too many quality sites would have been hit and on the first positions would remain some crazy bad sites with no seo at all.
 
my site is getting down and down.sigh....I was getting 1000 visits per day via search and full of energy and enthusiasm to scale up then this update came out of the blue and destroyed every effort I've made.
 
Thanks, that's really helpful. I am going to plough on but more than double my anchors and split 50% url links. If I am honest even I think I was over optimised on anchors so I am not really surprised google could spot it!
 
"The point of the whole thing is if we can get even a small shift towards Bing/Yahoo then Google WILL feel it. They are manipulating SERPS right now and have been doing so for a month. It is time they felt a little pain."

A month? Are you Kidding? How about 10 years.

The FIRST fact is that google can destroy us.

The SECOND fact is that we can do something about it.

The THIRD fact is - we wont.

I wonder why we won't.
 
kappa84 said:
OK, thought this might help you guys...

I have around 130 SEO clients and checked each and any client's rankings - from all these ONLY 3 dropped like flies, which is quite a good ratio lol.
What I do:
- first 1-2 months: ONLY web directories/social bookmarks (but doing it slow and steadily)
- depending on how/if they move I started using web 2.0s, article marketing, some private networks blog posts
- I NEVER stopped building links using wd/sb, this is continuous to ensure a stable link growth
- anchor variation: I used brand names for few links, nothing special; however, I am using about 7-10 anchors/client
- deep linking: the clients that dropped had links pointing only to their homepage, the rest have inner links as well (including to about us page with anchor such as "about brand name")

I am still under paranoia but getting over these 2 days is looking good. I think velocity/anchor diversity plaid a huge role here. No SB/Xrumer directly to websites. Steady link building.

Hope it helps.
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Whats wd? Do u use wordpress? what plugin/themes do u use?
 
Well, bad stuff happened, now we have to start working on getting our positions back. Any research already what sites has been hit hardest? I have huge amount of sites and I think that one factor might be keyword density and just over using keywords. Only sites that survived this are those with very low keyword density and only very low offsite seo done. Keyword density that was okay 23. is now too much? So maybe adding some more stuff almost without keywords might help to make site look more natural a little?
 
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