Onlyfans shuts down adult content?

RushingWind said:
How’s my ex girlfriend supposed to make a living now?
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I can be able to find some thing promising, duck want to start discussion about some oportunity.

It so sad as this was plan for me, now shut down.
Any thing duck touch start dying.

Tell some site you not like, i go buy bcos i know tomorrow it will failed.
 
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stoat said:
Everything can be labeled as slavery, if you teach your kid to do housework and have responsibilities that can count as slavery too
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Yes, depends of how we understand slavery. I was meaning it like children working in absolute horrible conditions. Or related to the thread, exploited for sexual paedophiles.

Some children are definitely mistreated with housework too, it's another subject but also equally important. But them doing some housework or learning to cook at a very young age can be a great experience for them, I will not be an extremist about everything too :D
 
andyframpton said:
I was reading this article on the train. I think no matter what you do you will never stop this happening. People will always commit some kind of fraud.
If the government get involved things could be bad for them.
I have never been on the site but obviously know of it. Can’t see why people would pay for the content.
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People pay for stuff they can't easily get somewhere else. While I'd agree with you and would not see WHY some pay ...logically:

- Porn is saturated if you watch it a lot you will see the same old faces, or stupid script trying to make it like a movie
- Likely for the underage shit that was mentioned in the article. Won't find that legally, seem only fans might be a "legal" way of getting it and thus worth paying for some specific people...
 
Willyfish said:
most girls now have lovense and use games and goals to produce a show that makes the audience keep watching
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Those are the ones who take 4 figures home at the end of the day.

An average camgirl can make $100 a day easily just by having a token goal, gradually stripping and interacting with the chat.

Willyfish said:
same as a twitch gamer or a youtuber, even if the basic seem more simple, the lighting must be top notch, same as the room arrangement. + Sales skills make them better to "close" the client and make him go in private. It's a lot more business oriented than you think and requires skill to win money in this industry.
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I know YouTube gamers who have 100K+ subscribers and have never shown their faces. This is because they're good at the game. Becoming good at competitive video games takes a lot of practice.

This guy is an example. He's not even charismatic. He's just good.


Willyfish said:
I saw so much nice girls having no customers because they look bored and not fun and not charismatic, the presence of the girl is one of the most important aspect to have private shows or subscribers on OF.
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Those non-nude cammers, maybe. Again, reinforces my point.
Willyfish said:
I sometimes think low of them too for thinking it's easy money and that simply showing ass and pussy is the way to go, the more fun the girl is, the more customer she will have and it's a business like all the others according to me.
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I think low of them, because:

1. What they do doesn't require skill (stripping and masturbating).

2. It's based on genetic lottery (born female). Even the ugly ones make nice money, because there's so many desperate dudes with low standards.

3. They shoot the female sex in the foot, amplifying toxic masculinity by being dependent on tippers' (men's) money.
Willyfish said:
even if for you it's not a job, for me if youtuber and twitch gamer is a job, sex work is work too.
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I do think of sex work as a job, just not one I respect for the three reasons above.
 
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This is bad no sane person will say it's not. But bear in mind this article is part of a media campaign to soften up the British public for the new UK 'online saftey bill' which as well as protecting children also makes websites censors legal 'harmful content' and massively curtails free speech.

If it does go ahead a lot of sites (including bhw - which is a UK company) may have to move abroad to run their forums alternatively will have to ban UK users. As the cost of running a forum will rise dramatically.
 
lurker123 said:
Onlyfans is yet another monopoly run by rich pigs like those of Paypal and Pornhub.

Onlyfans is an insult to women, and reinforces the idea that women are only good at entertaining men.


For real.
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How the fuck is it an insult to women, if it allows so many women to make a career without going to a stressful 9-5.
 
lurker123 said:
Those are the ones who take 4 figures home at the end of the day.

An average camgirl can make $100 a day easily just by having a token goal, gradually stripping and interacting with the chat.


I know YouTube gamers who have 100K+ subscribers and have never shown their faces. This is because they're good at the game. Becoming good at competitive video games takes a lot of practice.

This guy is an example. He's not even charismatic. He's just good.



Those non-nude cammers, maybe. Again, reinforces my point.

I think low of them, because:

1. What they do doesn't require skill (stripping and masturbating).

2. It's based on genetic lottery (born female). Even the ugly ones make nice money, because there's so many desperate dudes with low standards.

3. They shoot the female sex in the foot, amplifying toxic masculinity by being dependent on tippers' (men's) money.

I do think of sex work as a job, just not one I respect for the three reasons above.
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I get your point I will not go back and forth with you as you are an intelligent guy. And most things you say are true.

You speak about skills but I know some very bad players on twitch that are highly entertaining, when they play like shit and fail miserably and people like this content, because they are funny.

We have a different marketing journey I guess and I found that the process of promoting a twitch gamer and a camgirl is almost the same, different niche and content but same process and way of thinking about how to acquire customers, how to make them stay and how to make them return.

Speaking about toxic masculinity... it's not up to you and me as men to use our toxic masculinity to tell girls what they must do with their body or not or if it's bad or not. At the end of the day, you are always dependant on your customer's tipping in every business right ? no customer, no business...
 
Willyfish said:
You speak about skills but I know some very bad players on twitch that are highly entertaining, when they play like shit and fail miserably and people like this content, because they are funny.
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In one of my earlier posts, I mentioned how a Twitch gamer needs to be good OR charismatic.
Willyfish said:
We have a different marketing journey I guess and I found that the process of promoting a twitch gamer and a camgirl is almost the same, different niche and content but same process and way of thinking about how to acquire customers, how to make them stay and how to make them return.
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So far, I haven't promoted any Twitch or YouTube gaming streamers. I imagine promoting them is easier than promoting adult webcam performers.

If a gaming streamers has actually something worthwhile to offer (skill or charisma), his fanbase will do the promotion for him. He only needs to put out content and get some initial promotion done, the rest will snowball, I imagine.

Willyfish said:
Speaking about toxic masculinity... it's not up to you and me as men to use our toxic masculinity to tell girls what they must do with their body or not or if it's bad or not. At the end of the day, you are always dependant on your customer's tipping in every business right ? no customer, no business...
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The first time I heard the words "toxic masculinity", I couldn't help but laugh. I laughed so hard actually. It sounds funny.

Do look it up though, it's not what you seem to think.

Toxic masculinity is about men viewing women as inferior, thinking that women need to be helped by men, how men have more responsibility than women because men are stronger than women, and other things along these lines. Men tipping women on camsites amplifies this.
 
lurker123 said:
In one of my earlier posts, I mentioned how a Twitch gamer needs to be good OR charismatic.

So far, I haven't promoted any Twitch or YouTube gaming streamers. I imagine promoting them is easier than promoting adult webcam performers.

If a gaming streamers has actually something worthwhile to offer (skill or charisma), his fanbase will do the promotion for him. He only needs to put out content and get some initial promotion done, the rest will snowball, I imagine.


The first time I heard the words "toxic masculinity", I couldn't help but laugh. I laughed so hard actually. It sounds funny.

Do look it up though, it's not what you seem to think.

Toxic masculinity is about men viewing women as inferior, thinking that women need to be helped by men, how men have more responsibility than women because men are stronger than women, and other things along these lines. Men tipping women on camsites amplifies this.
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Why do you have such a problem with women making money from cam sites?
 
Hmmmmmmm...

AAW said:
Shut down the whole crap. And let all people on that site, including members and advertisers to go find REAL RESPECTFUL JOBS.
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That's not going to happen! Those people, (mostly women) are going to find the next shiny ppp-orn store to hawk their wares.

I used to live in Los Angeles, about 30 minutes from San Fernando Valley, the ppp-orn capital of the world.

When the state cracked down on that industry because of the high rate of HIV, they found out an alarming number of things:
  1. The ppp-orn industry has recruiters that make college sports recruiters look like grade school amateurs
  2. The number of underage girls in the business was alarming
  3. The secret society of sex trafficking was waaayyy larger than they realized
  4. Everyone in the industry fights vehemently to protect their ppp-orn cash cow
Look back in history.

In the USA, remember BackPages? It was a cesspool of underage girls, sex trafficking and free-agent females (without pimps) prostituting themselves to johns - before it got shutdown. BackPages was rift with the worst of the worst of humanity.

Then there was Craigslist; same as BackPages, before it got shutdown.

That same low class of individuals have moved to OF.

Once OF gets shutdown, they will find another ppp-orn platform; they don't want regular jobs!

They need the constant attention from countless males pining over them. They have become addicted to dopamine, and the MUST feed that hungy beast. Sadly,

When the state of CA cracked down, they started printing fake HIV test resutls and because the ppp-orn industry paid more for scenes without condoms, they found ways to skirt the laws about condoms.

What exacerbates this madness? Clueless parents!!!!

As I type, there is a 15-year-ol girl who has a LARGE TikTok following.

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She did a rap video BOASTING about having GROWN MEN in her DMs.

Where were her parents? You guessed it; giving their &^%$!!! approval!!!!

Rest assured, by the time she turns 18, she will be a seasoned ppp-orn pro addicted to the dopamine produced by being desired by countless boys, males and exsual predators! She already brags about the number males in her DMs as if to brag, "Everybody wants me!"

If OF is still in business, trust and believe, she is going to sign up.

If OF is not in business, she's going to find the next great ppp-orn store, they ALWAYS DO!
 
ExperimentalSEO said:
Why do you have such a problem with women making money from cam sites?
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You're trying so hard to be pro-women, you're shooting yourself in the foot.

Sex work is a degrading job, whether it's performed by women or men doesn't matter, though we both know the majority of sex workers are women.

You think that sex work is better than a 9-5 job, you must be delusional. Tell your locals to become sex workers and ditch their 9-5 jobs, see how they react.

I don't have a problem with camgirls, I EVEN promote camgirls for money. I just don't respect their job, that simple.

If somebody thought low of me for being a porn webmaster, I'd accept that.
 
lurker123 said:
In one of my earlier posts, I mentioned how a Twitch gamer needs to be good OR charismatic.

So far, I haven't promoted any Twitch or YouTube gaming streamers. I imagine promoting them is easier than promoting adult webcam performers.

If a gaming streamers has actually something worthwhile to offer (skill or charisma), his fanbase will do the promotion for him. He only needs to put out content and get some initial promotion done, the rest will snowball, I imagine.


The first time I heard the words "toxic masculinity", I couldn't help but laugh. I laughed so hard actually. It sounds funny.

Do look it up though, it's not what you seem to think.

Toxic masculinity is about men viewing women as inferior, thinking that women need to be helped by men, how men have more responsibility than women because men are stronger than women, and other things along these lines. Men tipping women on camsites amplifies this.
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I am a marketer, these type of political bias, I try to avoid absolutely as I know it has a political agenda behind. MGTOW or feminists as a political movement have their own agenda and promotion. "toxic masculinity" is a feminist tool to make men feel bad and be weak, after they become simps and give money to the girl, it's dangerous.

You say men, I say customer, it's a business to me. a customer tips a pizza delivery guy, a customer tips a hairdresser, a customer tips a camgirl. A service is not free :)
 
lurker123 said:
You're trying so hard to be pro-women, you're shooting yourself in the foot.

Sex work is a degrading job, whether it's performed by women or men doesn't matter, though we both know the majority of sex workers are women.

You think that sex work is better than a 9-5 job, you must be delusional. Tell your locals to become sex workers and ditch their 9-5 jobs, see how they react.

I don't have a problem with camgirls, I EVEN promote camgirls for money. I just don't respect their job, that simple.

If somebody thought low of me for being a porn webmaster, I'd accept that.
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Sex work is only degrading if you don't like the work, and pro-woman is letting women choose the jobs they want.
 
ExperimentalSEO said:
Sex work is only degrading if you don't like the work, and pro-woman is letting women choose the jobs they want.
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Where do you draw the line?

Should suicide be allowed as well, because that's what suicidal people want?

Should 15 year olds continue to whore themselves out on OnlyFans?

Why not get rid of laws altogether?

As you can see, the line needs to be drawn at a moderate place. Not somewhere unreasonable like where you'd like it to be.
 
I was wondering about this some time ago after pornhub got hit.
 
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lurker123 said:
You're trying so hard to be pro-women, you're shooting yourself in the foot.

Sex work is a degrading job, whether it's performed by women or men doesn't matter, though we both know the majority of sex workers are women.

You think that sex work is better than a 9-5 job, you must be delusional. Tell your locals to become sex workers and ditch their 9-5 jobs, see how they react.

I don't have a problem with camgirls, I EVEN promote camgirls for money. I just don't respect their job, that simple.

If somebody thought low of me for being a porn webmaster, I'd accept that.
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Degrading to whom?

Every year they have the ppp-orn AVN Awards; its the Oscars but for ppp-orn.

If you believe sex work is degrading, go to one of those award shows and try to convince ANY of the participants of you belief. I promise, they will chew you a new one.

Remember the ppp-orn industry recruiters that I mentioned? I know about them from 1st hand experience.

These females scour LA, San Diego, San Franciso and Las Vegas, seeking fresh meat for the ppp-orn industry.

While living in LA, they recruited 4 women that I thought I knew; all of them were married with children. I knew their husbands and children and these ppp-orn recruiters persuaded these married women to leave "divorce" their husbands and kids to become "quote unquote" actresses.

They had all four of these women performing couch auditions within two weeks of signing contracts!

I pleaded with all of them before they made that decision; all of their husbands had great careers, homes, cars, and investments, but these women wanted MORE!

Once the ppp-orn recruiters convinced them they would become rich queens, respected and have all types of men swooning over them, those women saw nothing else!

In the end, ALL 4 of them became strippers at some point, they all did porn, they all ended up doing call-out prostitution, but NO ONE, (being family or friends) could convince them that what they were doing was degrading, SMH.

One of the the four contracted the HIV virus and developed full blown AIDS. One day, I took her daughter to the hospital to see her; as soon as she learned that I was outside her room, she order her daughter to leave!!!

She was ashamed because I insisted that something like this was a possiblity, but she stern-faced refused to listen to me.

Did she think that what she did was degrading? Not one second!

She told her daughter stories about how much money she made in the ppp-orn business and showed her daughter ppp-orn pictures and videos she was pround of. Her objective???

She was living vicariously through her daughter; trying to recruite her own flesh and blood into an industry that chewed her up and spit her out.

These people have cognitive dissonance; they know no shame, no degradtion and no humanity.
 
Crewchief007 said:
Hmmmmmmm...



Degrading to whom?

Every year they have the ppp-orn AVN Awards; its the Oscars but for ppp-orn.

If you believe sex work is degrading, go to one of those award shows and try to convince ANY of the participants of you belief. I promise, they will chew you a new one.

Remember the ppp-orn industry recruiters that I mentioned? I know about them from 1st hand experience.

These females scour LA, San Diego, San Franciso and Las Vegas, seeking fresh meat for the ppp-orn industry.

While living in LA, they recruited 4 women that I thought I knew; all of them were married with children. I knew their husbands and children and these ppp-orn recruiters persuaded these married women to leave "divorce" their husbands and kids to become "quote unquote" actresses.

They had all four of these women performing couch auditions within two weeks of signing contracts!

I pleaded with all of them before they made that decision; all of their husbands had great careers, homes, cars, and investments, but these women wanted MORE!

Once the ppp-orn recruiters convinced them they would become rich queens, respected and have all types of men swooning over them, those women saw nothing else!

In the end, ALL 4 of them became strippers at some point, they all did porn, they all ended up doing call-out prostitution, but NO ONE, (being family or friends) could convince them that what they were doing was degrading, SMH.

One of the the four contracted the HIV virus and developed full blown AIDS. One day, I took her daughter to the hospital to see her; as soon as she learned that I was outside her room, she order her daughter to leave!!!

She was ashamed because I insisted that something like this was a possiblity, but she stern-faced refused to listen to me.

Did she think that what she did was degrading? Not one second!

She told her daughter stories about how much money she made in the ppp-orn business and showed her daughter ppp-orn pictures and videos she was pround of. Her objective???

She was living vicariously through her daughter; trying to recruite her own flesh and blood into an industry that chewed her up and spit her out.

These people have cognitive dissonance; they know no shame, no degradtion and no humanity.
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Suicide rates and disease among female adult film stars would suggest otherwise

I've seen people who love the lifestyle .. but seeing all the suicides in just the pst 5 years alone is scary.
 
Crewchief007 said:
She did a rap video BOASTING about having GROWN MEN in her DMs.
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This is the fault of society as a whole. I am not saying that the family is innocent but these are not separated cases, it has become a social phenomenon. We are surrounded by porn everywhere, basically a 4 years old can stumble upon hardcore porn on the internet and even get addicted to it. When they grow up they think that what they see in porn is how things are supposed to be. Teen is one of the most popular porn categories, yet no one talks to children about the dangers of being preyed upon, or about the toll of sex work on mental health, or about the fact that you can't remove anything from the internet. Let alone the destructive effect of porn on how society views women, relationships and social life. The days of our society are numbered in my opinion.

By the way many sex workers were victims of sexual abuse as children.
 
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