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Shrek-Senpai · Sep 24, 2022

Does anyone have any ideas/concepts on how to monetize simps, other than OF? I feel like its such a huge market, but the traditional OF/Reddit marketing route feels very oversaturated.
I had some success on Discord, but it involved way too much work and I still dont really know how and where to get girls, which will be down to give me a cut if their earnings.

Im willing and eager to lern abt this niche, tips, advice or possible cooperations are all very welcome!
Thanks for the answers in advance!

Rakzs · Sep 24, 2022

It depends on the type of content you are going to create, but alternative platforms such as Fansly, manyvids, etc exist: but even when using these you'll still have to promote the same way so just stick to Onlyfans.

Onlyfans is a big market yes, but it's very easy to get big if you put time in promotion, it's practically impossible to saturate due to market size.
Check my post here https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/t...ontrol-nsfw-subreddits.1439759/#post-15655533 you'll see I detail some key tips for growing onlyfans on reddit.

Shrek-Senpai · Sep 24, 2022

Rakzs said:
It depends on the type of content you are going to create, but alternative platforms such as Fansly, manyvids, etc exist: but even when using these you'll still have to promote the same way so just stick to Onlyfans.

Onlyfans is a big market yes, but it's very easy to get big if you put time in promotion, it's practically impossible to saturate due to market size.
Check my post here https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/tools-to-dominate-create-and-control-nsfw-subreddits.1439759/#post-15655533 you'll see I detail some key tips for growing onlyfans on reddit.

Thanks! Just read it. My question is, how do I find girls? Should I go on reddit and just ask some girls, which dont have an OF already? Or should I DM OF girls, with low Sub count?

Rakzs · Sep 24, 2022

Shrek-Senpai said:
Thanks! Just read it. My question is, how do I find girls? Should I go on reddit and just ask some girls, which dont have an OF already? Or should I DM OF girls, with low Sub count?

It is better if you target girls who aren't on reddit at all, from my experience all of them are either flakes or unreliable. Also, they are actually very aggressive towards "pimps" (they will go as far as saying you're a misogynist or incel for managing OF girls if you give them your offer). You will find some good ones there, but it isn't worth it for the most part. They are usually unwilling to give account access.

The best way to find them is instagram, you want girls who are interested in it but haven't got into it yet (e.g models with small amount of followers who have very revealing pictures), a good percentage will be down and some won't be, but that's just part of the game. But, Instagram girls are much more receptive to the offer.

If you go for girls who already have an OF it's a bit harder. They will be more hesitant to give over full account access, allow you to change the bank details to your own, etc.
But if you must, then go for girls who have very low social media interactions and who are clearly getting little to no attention on OF and social media.
And if she wants to work with you but doesn't want to give account access, then forget about it. She can easily decide once she gets traffic and active fans that she wants to cut you out and keep 100% instead of 50% for example.

Shrek-Senpai · Sep 24, 2022

Rakzs said:
It is better if you target girls who aren't on reddit at all, from my experience all of them are either flakes or unreliable. Also, they are actually very aggressive towards "pimps" (they will go as far as saying you're a misogynist or incel for managing OF girls if you give them your offer). You will find some good ones there, but it isn't worth it for the most part. They are usually unwilling to give account access.

The best way to find them is instagram, you want girls who are interested in it but haven't got into it yet (e.g models with small amount of followers who have very revealing pictures), a good percentage will be down and some won't be, but that's just part of the game. But, Instagram girls are much more receptive to the offer.

If you go for girls who already have an OF it's a bit harder. They will be more hesitant to give over full account access, allow you to change the bank details to your own, etc.
But if you must, then go for girls who have very low social media interactions and who are clearly getting little to no attention on OF and social media.
And if she wants to work with you but doesn't want to give account access, then forget about it. She can easily decide once she gets traffic and active fans that she wants to cut you out and keep 100% instead of 50% for example.

FR man, the knowledge you are giving out for free is a blessing, may all your future business ventures make you the next jeff bezos.
So the idea is, that I learn how to market the girls and drive traffic to their OF and in return I get 50 percent? So the girls give me content and in return they receive help with gettin their content out there?

Ofc I will be doing my own research too, but what are the best/most common ways of driving traffic to their OF? I only know of Reddit tbh. Do I need to like learn thi whole SEO stuff? Is this somethinmg needed when marketing OF? Would it maybe be a smart way to let the girls Livestream on Twitch maybe?

ferg2 · Sep 24, 2022

start your own OF and collab with OF girls

Shrek-Senpai · Sep 24, 2022

ferg2 said:
start your own OF and collab with OF girls

Ima dude

Rakzs · Sep 24, 2022

Shrek-Senpai said:
FR man, the knowledge you are giving out for free is a blessing, may all your future business ventures make you the next jeff bezos.
So the idea is, that I learn how to market the girls and drive traffic to their OF and in return I get 50 percent? So the girls give me content and in return they receive help with gettin their content out there?

Ofc I will be doing my own research too, but what are the best/most common ways of driving traffic to their OF? I only know of Reddit tbh. Do I need to like learn thi whole SEO stuff? Is this somethinmg needed when marketing OF? Would it maybe be a smart way to let the girls Livestream on Twitch maybe?

Yes but you also should be managing posts, messages, etc (DMs/"locked" content is where the big money comes from, not subscriptions). So essentially the girls make content while you handle account management, messages, social media marketing, etc (This sounds like a lot, but it isn't. If the girl ever asks why you get paid 50% just give her the list though).

Experiment with the reddit info I posted and Twitter is runner up in terms of conversions. Look at big OF models there and see how they handle their accounts (regular generic stolen tweet, pay for big account to rt, replying to tweet with link to their OF, linktree in bio, etc).

That would be a good idea if you execute it properly.

Shrek-Senpai · Sep 24, 2022

Rakzs said:
Yes but you also should be managing posts, messages, etc (DMs/"locked" content is where the big money comes from, not subscriptions). So essentially the girls make content while you handle account management, messages, social media marketing, etc (This sounds like a lot, but it isn't. If the girl ever asks why you get paid 50% just give her the list though).

Experiment with the reddit info I posted and Twitter is runner up in terms of conversions. Look at big OF models there and see how they handle their accounts (regular generic stolen tweet, pay for big account to rt, replying to tweet with link to their OF, linktree in bio, etc).

That would be a good idea if you execute it properly.

Alright thanks alot. With the payment, is there a way of making every withdrawal go 50 50 to 2 different bank accounts? And in terms of access, Does the girl have access to the OF account? Or is it too risky that she logs in oneday, changes PW and mail and blocks me?

Rakzs · Sep 24, 2022

Shrek-Senpai said:
Alright thanks alot. With the payment, is there a way of making every withdrawal go 50 50 to 2 different bank accounts? And in terms of access, Does the girl have access to the OF account? Or is it too risky that she logs in oneday, changes PW and mail and blocks me?

Don't give her access at all. Make her make a Wise account, use it to receive payments and send half to yourself and half to her. She shouldn't have any of the logins until you build up trust, and even then it's preferable to not give access.

Shrek-Senpai · Sep 24, 2022

Rakzs said:
Don't give her access at all. Make her make a Wise account, use it to receive payments and send half to yourself and half to her. She shouldn't have any of the logins until you build up trust, and even then it's preferable to not give access.

Oh ok got it. When DMing the girls, would it make sense to create like a small website to look more legit? Would it make sense to maybe even show the girls that Ive successfully brought up, when I alr manage 1 or 2 girls?

Rakzs · Sep 24, 2022

Shrek-Senpai said:
Oh ok got it. When DMing the girls, would it make sense to create like a small website to look more legit? Would it make sense to maybe even show the girls that Ive successfully brought up, when I alr manage 1 or 2 girls?

Just mention you manage numerous top 1% girls (even if you don't) and sell them on the idea of only having to make content per your instructions while you manage everything. It will look best if you have a site, but a good looking IG is fine.

Shrek-Senpai · Sep 24, 2022

Rakzs said:
Just mention you manage numerous top 1% girls (even if you don't) and sell them on the idea of only having to make content per your instructions while you manage everything. It will look best if you have a site, but a good looking IG is fine.

I dont use Ig much, should I invest in a good looking IG, ratehr than a website? Meaning buying like 5-10k followers, posting a few pics, and buying likes, just to look legit and trustable?

Rakzs · Sep 24, 2022

Shrek-Senpai said:
I dont use Ig much, should I invest in a good looking IG, ratehr than a website? Meaning buying like 5-10k followers, posting a few pics, and buying likes, just to look legit and trustable?

As long as it looks presentable and professional, it will be fine. It can be bad to buy fake interactions since they can just look and see the followers/likes don't look real. Make sure your page consists of social proof (e.g highlights reel showing expensive things, in future OF earnings, etc)

91s · Sep 24, 2022

Rakzs said:
As long as it looks presentable and professional, it will be fine. It can be bad to buy fake interactions since they can just look and see the followers/likes don't look real. Make sure your page consists of social proof (e.g highlights reel showing expensive things, in future OF earnings, etc)

So a empty IG account will not make it? I personnally don't really want to use my personal IG for this

Rakzs · Sep 25, 2022

91s said:
So a empty IG account will not make it? I personnally don't really want to use my personal IG for this

You don't need to use a personal, but a blank account is not trustworthy enough. Just look from their perspective; a random blank instagram account with nothing on it is asking you to partner for 50% earnings and wants your ID + info to register an onlyfans.
You'll get much less conversions that way.

Shrek-Senpai · Sep 25, 2022

Rakzs said:
You don't need to use a personal, but a blank account is not trustworthy enough. Just look from their perspective; a random blank instagram account with nothing on it is asking you to partner for 50% earnings and wants your ID + info to register an onlyfans.
You'll get much less conversion

Do you know let your girls sign a model contract? I read the girls can sue you for something like revenge porn, claiming that you distributed their pics without their consent.

Rakzs · Sep 25, 2022

Shrek-Senpai said:
Do you know let your girls sign a model contract? I read the girls can sue you for something like revenge porn, claiming that you distributed their pics without their consent.

I don't but that's because we explicitly agree on terms very clearly before working, I also take a screenshot of it.
They can't sue for revenge porn or something because we explicitly agree all content I have them make is for OnlyFans and other sites (depends where I market the girl and how).
The only way you could maybe get sued for revenge porn is if she wanted to quit but you kept distributing/promoting content, but obviously nobody is gonna do that.

A contract would be good and make you seem more professional, but it might scare some amateur/inexperienced models off. It's better to do a brief survey with them asking for information (experience, etc) and personalize your offer to them from it.

Shrek-Senpai · Sep 25, 2022

Rakzs said:
I don't but that's because we explicitly agree on terms very clearly before working, I also take a screenshot of it.
They can't sue for revenge porn or something because we explicitly agree all content I have them make is for OnlyFans and other sites (depends where I market the girl and how).
The only way you could maybe get sued for revenge porn is if she wanted to quit but you kept distributing/promoting content, but obviously nobody is gonna do that.

A contract would be good and make you seem more professional, but it might scare some amateur/inexperienced models off. It's better to do a brief survey with them asking for information (experience, etc) and personalize your offer to them from it.

Yea that makes sense. Do you also ask for control over their already existing Social media channels, like IG? and if so, dod you allow thenm access too? or do you change the pw and email?

Rakzs · Sep 25, 2022

Shrek-Senpai said:
Yea that makes sense. Do you also ask for control over their already existing Social media channels, like IG? and if so, dod you allow thenm access too? or do you change the pw and email?

Their existing social media is fine as they won't be willing to share it, they can promote from there and it will get some traffic (more if they are big). But you should also make your own twitter/reddit etc as the girl.

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