[?? OHRLY ??] Blackhat by definition is NOT illegal

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Clearly you're not implying that just because a public forum is prohibiting certain content for the sake of their hosting and viability, doesn't mean that that policy standard lends itself as a definition to "blackhat" activity. That would be a bit narrow in scope, you must admit.

I could be wrong, but seeing as how he was defending the site itself, im pretty sure it does apply.

This is an ongoing debate and I think phpfail has some valid points, but people who argue otherwise (myself included), also have valid points.

Clearly you're not implying that just because a public forum is prohibiting certain content for the sake of their hosting and viability, doesn't mean that that policy standard lends itself as a definition to "blackhat" activity. That would be a bit narrow in scope, you must admit.

BHW's public discourse definitely does not set the standard for everything that is and is not blackhat. It's a valuable resource with a lot of brilliant people that come together to share their knowledge, but of course for the sake of actually remaining online, some stuff just can't be discussed.

I know many members that do stuff that isn't allowed to be brought up here, does that mean they're blackhat hackers or that they're something other than blackhat since BHW excludes illegal activity from the forum? Of course not, some of them wouldn't know the first thing about hacking (nor would they want to), and just because BHW doesn't allow this type of talk doesn't mean that everything that isn't allowed isn't blackhat.

So that lays point #1 to rest pretty handily.

Blackhat SEO and Blackhat Hacking are not mutually exclusively. Yes, some stuff might be "blackhat" to you, but then what do you call hacking involved with SEO? Super Blackhat? No. Blackhat is based on a spectrum of activity, ranging from 100% legit (white) to 100% illegal (black). In this sense, then, wouldn't it be the most logical position to consider illegal activity true blackhat, and everything outside the realm of illegality as advancing into the realm of grey and white?
 
I'm protesting for being called an idiot, and here's why.

Back in Pakistan, Moldova, India or any other more undeveloped country (relative to the US of course), things like cookie stuffing, asking articles for free or even doing homework for teachers who won't check, any method pertaining to the "work your ass off, receive shit" system is considered neither illegal, nor deceptive, nor scam at all. People just get along with it.

On the other hand I understand you for your hard attempt in protecting interests, but that's just up to your scale, when you're a high earner (at $3,000/week, hell, I'd be on your side too; I'd be operating on the highest ethical standards available).

I definitely will stop from asking "what happens if" or "is it legal to", but that doesn't mean I will ask elsewhere or change the way I feel about it. I only draw my lines based on who I know, what he did for me, or what he can provide me with in the nearest future. The rest of the world to me (and understand, that includes you as well) is just traffic, whether is it organic, incentivezed, targeted, viral etc.

By the way, do you happen to have a bulletproof regex for e-mails?
 
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I'm going to close this thread, its served its purpose.

When I originally wrote it, it seemed like every other thread being started was how to defraud CPA or some other action that was totally illegal and involved committing fraud to make money (I linked to 5 posts which were all violations of BHW rules in the OP).

Regarding living in an impoverished 3rd world country and breaking the law being just fine, I'm not buying it. I'm in the Philippines and there's a lot of poverty here, but everyone knows the difference between right and wrong, even if they decide to do wrong. BigBuddy lives in India and last I read he took a 5 hour trip just to work out a shitlist thread.

Guess what? Karma is often quoted around the world, but it originated as an Indian religious concept. So if you're out to rip people off stealing their hard work in having them submit articles to you, intentionally to rip them off knowing you won't pay them, and you happen to live in India -- you can't claim there's nothing in the Indian culture that says you're doing wrong, that's where the word Karma originated.
 
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