There are some who make the claim that, by definition, blackhat is illegal and therefore discussing illegal stuff on the forum is fair game. I found one particular comment today in a thread trying to justify illegal activities and I'm just getting tired of explaining this over and over, so I thought I'd make a new thread for it which I can conveniently link to instead of restating the same thing over and over. Point #1, Its against the Forum Rules The terms of service of blackhatworld.com are here. Specifically ... If it's illegal or deception, its prohibited. This includes the idiot who wants to sell stuff on Flippa and not disclose the fact he just got banned from adsense (fraud and deception). This includes the idiot who wants to cookie stuff commission junction (definitely illegal and fraud). This includes the idiot who wants to steal the work of authors by having them submit sample writing and using the content for websites (using deception and probably fraud). This includes the idiot who wants to set up multiple ebay accounts to post Iphones for sale and then disappear after the money is withdrawn (fraud and illegal). This includes all the idiots who want to fraud CPA offers by filling them in themselves. If your tactics can land you in jail, or is attempting to obtain goods from someone through deception -- its against the forum rules. If its against the forum rules, and this is a blackhat seo forum ... then by definition blackhat seo does not automatically include deception and illegal activities (in fact it excludes them). Point #2, Blackhat SEO is different than Blackhat Hacking What prompted me to write this post is this idiot who says that blackhat seo isn't even a word. then tries to prove it by linking to a hacking page on wikipedia. What kind of flaming idiot prances around on a blackhat seo forum and proclaims to everyone that blackhat as applied to seo is a misnomer. Blackhat hacking is different than blackhat seo. Just because in your make-believe fairy tale world blackhat seo doesn't exist doesn't make it so. Trying to prove your point by linking to hacking articles on wikipedia that have nothing to do with SEO only makes the point that you're an idiot. Whitehat SEO, by definition, means you are using clever methods of ranking websites that Matt Cutts would give you a pat on the back for, and which meet all of Google's guidelines for webmasters. Blackhat SEO, by definition, means you are using clever methods of ranking websites that are against Google's webmaster guidelines. PS: it is not against the law to violate Google's webmaster guidelines.